Help!! guerilla grow

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Aaronnju

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old shol4evr said:
crush some egg shells to a powder,,make a ring around your soil about 3inches away from stalk,,that take care of snails and grubs,they feed at night,they donrt like light at all,,they then go back into the soil when the sun comes up,,most likely rats are eating your leaves,set a trap and see what happens,,have a buddy growing green on you tube,,he had a rat entering his 65 gallon bags,told him same thing,sure enough 3 days later got the bastard,,when using compost from your kitchen and dinner table,you have to let it fully compost before using it,,as far as your feed ,never use recomended dose,start at 1/4 strength and work your way up to the tip burns and back off just a hair,,as the plant matures a bit,,bring it up slowly again and do same thing,,as far as your soil,,i cant answer you,,i use ocean forest from seed to harvest,or my own built soil,,i only use water in veg and in flower i use botanicare soil pro,then every other week i use kool bloom,,so cant help you there,,seems to me your main problem is your not hardening the plants off before you stick them in the sun,,you can also gently put a stake in there to hold them up,,but they got to handle the wind by them self come flower time,unless you scrog and from your sitiution that aint gonna happen,,anyway hope this helps,,kill them damn rats ,they will eat that whole plant roots and all
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As for the rats, is there any other way of repelling them? I'd only imagine there's hundreds around where the spot is I'd kinda describe it as overgrown thorn and nettle land where I've stamped down a flat area I'd never kill them all. Iv also heard alot of people telling people they need to be hardened off I'm not sure what that is either. I havnt had them inside I germinated the seeds in a paper tissue in my house and braugjt them to the spot outdoors and planted them in pots
 
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sandhill larry

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Hardening off means to gradually get them used to the sunlight. According to what kind of lights they were vegged under, it could take from 3 or 4 days to two weeks of sitting in the shade outside, gradually moving them out into full sun.

When grown outdoors from the start, this is not an issue.
 
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Aaronnju

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sandhill larry said:
Hardening off means to gradually get them used to the sunlight. According to what kind of lights they were vegged under, it could take from 3 or 4 days to two weeks of sitting in the shade outside, gradually moving them out into full sun.

When grown outdoors from the start, this is not an issue.
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Oh okay thanks man, I never had them under a grow light they where germinated in tissue in my house and when tap roots showed I brought them with me to the spot and stuck em in pots in the sun. What I have outside at the moment have there 1st set of single pointy leaves after the smooth leaves, they looked health when I checked them today does this mean they are already hardened off or will the effect take there tole over the next few days?
 
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Aaronnju said:
Oh okay thanks man, I never had them under a grow light they where germinated in tissue in my house and when tap roots showed I brought them with me to the spot and stuck em in pots in the sun. What I have outside at the moment have there 1st set of single pointy leaves after the smooth leaves, they looked health when I checked them today does this mean they are already hardened off or will the effect take there tole over the next few days?
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If they have full sun from the beginning there is no need to harden them off. It's the weeks of grow lights that makes them used to weaker light.

Of course there are a hundred other things that could kill them, but we are going to hope for the best. I do all my growing out of doors, so I always plant extra. You know going in you are going to have losses. Make yourself a few seeds if you get the chance. Having a sack full of seeds will go a long way to helping you relax.
 
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Thanks for the info man I'll start collecting up the egg shels, I have a 5 liter bottle covering one plant and a clear plastic storage container covering the other, I'm hoping this will keep the rats away from them (they can't get at it from under either its all sitting on a base in pots). I have another 3 super bud autos on the way and my propigator and rockwool cubes have just arrived today. Was gonna germinate the new ones in rock wool and throw them in the propagation dome down at the spot to act as a greenhouse to rise temps and act as a pest barrier till they got a few nodes high, there isn't much shaded areas around my spot if I was to throw a clear plastic sheet over the dome would that effectively shade it a bit?
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plant needs air and moisture in veg,in veg to much light or to little dont matter,ive run them with 6hr in shade and had great results,,i also and am running 24-7 on 2 i got going now,,hydration is a great thing in veg,not so much in flower,but still need some if you dig,,the wind make the stalks stand proud and loud,,im in triple digits and on 3rd set of leaves ,had them outdoors all this time,,2 days ago had to bring um in cause the heat has shut them down,,they are under a cfl now,,but you can kick the side of pot and them stalks dont bend at all,,they have with stood 20 mph winds no problem,,guess what im trying to say is this is a weed,ive seen them grow out of rocks,,you pamper them ,they expect it daily,,when i pop a seed,i put it in dirt right as i see the tail,,no hood nothing,,if it cant take it,,i dont want it,,when i clone,i use a plastic coffe container with a cheap wal mart air pump,in 10 days roots,and straight to dirt,,ive cloned watermelon,canaloupe,roses,cucumbers,bell pepers and pepers,,hell just about all veggies and plenty of weed to boot,,the thing is under the hood,they more to stem rot on you,because of air suppy,,so i dont use them at all,,as far as the rat,,hate to tell you this but ive watched my dogs tree one and them little assholes climb just as well as a squerril,,my bro i told you about,,they ate right threw his air bags,,only way to stop them from chewing is a brillo pad or a gun,,anyway get some air to them plants and it might just work out for ya if you dig what im saying
 
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sandhill larry said:
If they have full sun from the beginning there is no need to harden them off. It's the weeks of grow lights that makes them used to weaker light.

Of course there are a hundred other things that could kill them, but we are going to hope for the best. I do all my growing out of doors, so I always plant extra. You know going in you are going to have losses. Make yourself a few seeds if you get the chance. Having a sack full of seeds will go a long way to helping you relax.
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I was actually thinking about making a few seeds I was watching YouTube videos to find out how, how do homegrown seeds from plants from good breeding genetics (sensi seeds ect. Compare to the actual seeds baught from the seed bank that made the original plant? And i wanted to make auto seeds cant find any non fem auto seeds from well known sourses, any recommendations?
 
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As for the rats, is there any other way of repelling them? I'd only imagine there's hundreds around where the spot is I'd kinda describe it as overgrown thorn and nettle land where I've stamped down a flat area I'd never kill them all. Iv also heard alot of people telling people they need to be hardened off I'm not sure what that is either. I havnt had them inside I germinated the seeds in a paper tissue in my house and braugjt them to the spot outdoors and planted them in pots
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straight to dirt no need if they been outside all this time,,hardware cloth,,has 1/4 in squares,they cant chew threw it and rabbits cant get in it,,tell ya a trick i use gorrila growing,,smells like a bad ass but works,,find as many difrent peppers you can,cut them and put in a pot,add a clove of garlic,boil them down to a thick juice,,strain it and in that juice add pepermint oil and rosemary,,neem oil,,if you can get some comfrey juice that too,,mix all that shit up,put in a spray bottle,,spray that nasty smelling shit all around the area of your plant,,best bug deterent and shit smell so bad even snakes cant handle the smell,,be warned though,,this shit is worse than cs gas and will gas your ass,,you be coming out them woods snot running from your face and cant see,lol,,do it about once a week when you feed the girl and if you have any bugs at all ,patent them bitches cause the bullet proof,rats are just like snakes and live by smell,,jack that nose up and they be gone,,works for deer and squerril to,,they cant dig it at all
 
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sandhill larry

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Aaronnju said:
I was actually thinking about making a few seeds I was watching YouTube videos to find out how, how do homegrown seeds from plants from good breeding genetics (sensi seeds ect. Compare to the actual seeds baught from the seed bank that made the original plant? And i wanted to make auto seeds cant find any non fem auto seeds from well known sourses, any recommendations?
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I have near 100% germination rate on my seeds. As far as the genetics, it's up to you to pick the best ones to breed. Find a frosty female with a structure you like along with a boss male. This being your first time, I would pick one male and use that pollen on all the females you were going to breed. Less chance of a screw up that way.

For regular auto seeds, just let google search for you. I have never bought from the big seed companies, so not sure about pricing and what not.

https://www.google.com/#q=regular+autoflower+seeds
 
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old shol4evr said:
straight to dirt no need if they been outside all this time,,hardware cloth,,has 1/4 in squares,they cant chew threw it and rabbits cant get in it,,tell ya a trick i use gorrila growing,,smells like a bad ass but works,,find as many difrent peppers you can,cut them and put in a pot,add a clove of garlic,boil them down to a thick juice,,strain it and in that juice add pepermint oil and rosemary,,neem oil,,if you can get some comfrey juice that too,,mix all that shit up,put in a spray bottle,,spray that nasty smelling shit all around the area of your plant,,best bug deterent and shit smell so bad even snakes cant handle the smell,,be warned though,,this shit is worse than cs gas and will gas your ass,,you be coming out them woods snot running from your face and cant see,lol,,do it about once a week when you feed the girl and if you have any bugs at all ,patent them bitches cause the bullet proof,rats are just like snakes and live by smell,,jack that nose up and they be gone,,works for deer and squerril to,,they cant dig it at all
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I'm gonna use that one thanks man hopefully it keeps the bastards away haha
 
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Aaronnju

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sandhill larry said:
I have near 100% germination rate on my seeds. As far as the genetics, it's up to you to pick the best ones to breed. Find a frosty female with a structure you like along with a boss male. This being your first time, I would pick one male and use that pollen on all the females you were going to breed. Less chance of a screw up that way.

For regular auto seeds, just let google search for you. I have never bought from the big seed companies, so not sure about pricing and what not.


Thanks man if I was to plant the male and female at the same time would the male be ready to harvest its pollen and have it ready for when the female becomes sexualy active?
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As long as they are sexually mature {4-6 weeks old} they will flower when the nights get long enough, regardless of age. If the male does flower first, you can collect the pollen and store it. It has to be kept dry. It is a good idea to get the male away from the females anyway. You want to make a few seeds, not hundreds. The way to do that is to paint a few lower limb buds with pollen. The best timing for the female is 2-3 weeks into flower. You can see which plants are going to be frosty and seed a couple of lower limbs.
 
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sandhill larry said:
As long as they are sexually mature {4-6 weeks old} they will flower when the nights get long enough, regardless of age. If the male does flower first, you can collect the pollen and store it. It has to be kept dry. It is a good idea to get the male away from the females anyway. You want to make a few seeds, not hundreds. The way to do that is to paint a few lower limb buds with pollen. The best timing for the female is 2-3 weeks into flower. You can see which plants are going to be frosty and seed a couple of lower limbs.
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I wanted to bring the male and 1 female off to a different site and let the whole plant pollinate. How many seeds roughly would a whole plant yeild? Was aiming kinda high I want a nice stash haha if I just pollinate the lower branches will this give me seedy weed on them branches and perfectly fine weed on the rest of the plant? Might do this to one or 2 other strains I hope to soon get too to get a smaller stash of a different x strain
 
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Number of seeds depends on size of plant. ie. number of buds. I get 30-50 from two small lower limbs. I did some whole plants and got 300-500 hundred seeds. Way too many. But at the time, seed independence was really important to me. I do some crosses where I paint two kinds of pollen on one female. You have to spray down all of the plant {except the part you pollinate} with water to make sure there isn't any unplanned seeds. And there needs to be a week or so between applying the 1st and 2nd pollen. But I wouldn't try this until you have a few crosses behind you.

And if done properly, you will only have seeds in the buds you pollinate. On bigger plants the ratio might be more than 100/1 unseeded to seeded.
 
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old shol4evr

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Aaronnju said:
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I'm gonna use that one thanks man hopefully it keeps the bastards away haha
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if you have a citroneela plant,,use it too,,shit gonna stank to aint lieing but it works,,hell time you come out them woods,there will be nothing to follow your trail out,,thats a good thing
 
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i also take a coke bottle and fill with amonia and put around my plants about 5ft away,,cats coons possum they cant stand the shit,,the best thing is everything i have mention is natrural to the outdoors so dont draw attention
 
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Aaronnju

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sandhill larry said:
Number of seeds depends on size of plant. ie. number of buds. I get 30-50 from two small lower limbs. I did some whole plants and got 300-500 hundred seeds. Way too many. But at the time, seed independence was really important to me. I do some crosses where I paint two kinds of pollen on one female. You have to spray down all of the plant {except the part you pollinate} with water to make sure there isn't any unplanned seeds. And there needs to be a week or so between applying the 1st and 2nd pollen. But I wouldn't try this until you have a few crosses behind you.

And if done properly, you will only have seeds in the buds you pollinate. On bigger plants the ratio might be more than 100/1 unseeded to seeded.
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Sounds good man I like the idea of cross pollinating with 2 different males, how does that turn out? And would you paint the 2nd layer of pollen on over the 1st or on another branch? I was looking for non fem autos on Google, wasn't much available I seen a lot of "flash seeds" has anyone ever used these before? I never heard of them before now.
 
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old shol4evr said:
i also take a coke bottle and fill with amonia and put around my plants about 5ft away,,cats coons possum they cant stand the shit,,the best thing is everything i have mention is natrural to the outdoors so dont draw attention
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Thanks man. Unfortunalty I haven't a citronella plant, and do u have any idea where i could get some amonia? I haven't a clue haha
 
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sandhill larry

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Sounds good man I like the idea of cross pollinating with 2 different males, how does that turn out? And would you paint the 2nd layer of pollen on over the 1st or on another branch? I was looking for non fem autos on Google, wasn't much available I seen a lot of "flash seeds" has anyone ever used these before? I never heard of them before now.
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No, not on same branch. I crossed my Ass Cheese and Gorille de Raisin with both Ass Cheese and Powernap X Sinmint Cookies pollen. How I did it was to dust the limb you choose, mark it with a colored twist tie, cover with a plastic bag, then spray down the rest of the plant with water. The water kills any stray pollen. Wait until you can tell the pollen took. A couple three days you should see white hairs turning brown on the dusted limb. That is your signal that seeds are starting to form. Wait a few more days, then dust a limb well away from the other one. Cover limb with plastic bag and spray rest of plant with water.
 
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