HELP!! leaves canoeing tried everything

Hi first time posting here never had a problem i couldnt fix myself. Ok so i never had a ph meter before and had very good success as in no nute problems etc. On my most recent grow of tahoe og and louis 13 i started to have signs of nute or ph problems not sure. I bought a ph meter thinking it was the problem and started to give them half strength nutes around 600 ppm and 5.8-6.0 ph. since then my leaves on almost all new growth is starting to canoe or taco and is progressively getting worse. I have tried all sorts of remedies and am just not sure what to do. I need to save these babies as these are very good clones and strains been in veg for about 3 weeks now. Also side note i tested nutrient solution of what i gave them before i bought a ph meter and had been having good success with the nute solution at 4.0 ph wtf?? anybody have any idea how that could be???? it is a soil grow indoors roots organics soil and 600w hps light temp and humidity are fine and i dont believe it is light burn since it is also on the lower shoots. any input would be greatly appreciated! thanks!

Heat stress?

ph lockout if your in soil ph should be at 6.6 7.0 for optimal results not what your stating your starving them id of nutes flush with phd water and give them a 1/3 feeding
first chart is hydro just to show soil is below

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thanks for the input i am almost positive it is not heat stress or related to the enviorment. Also shouldnt 6.6-7.0 be the ph of the soil? from everything ive heard when growing in soil keep your water or nute solution 5.6-6.3 when feeding. I think i may have it too low though at 5.9. but the only reason im a little confused is that when i didnt have a meter they got 4.0 ph water and seemed to thrive? any explanation for this? Also based on the pics i attached do you think this looks like low ph? ive never had this problem before.

Looks like root rot try putting em in a bigger pot. When transplanting smell the dirt it should smell earthy. Hows the drainage? If you do have root rot you could treat it with hydrogen peroxide like a teaspoon a day. Give it mag. Cuz root rot will block nutes and stuff

nope ph for your mix in soil shud be atleast 6.5 but if you feed them a ph solution of 6.3 then your right there when it enters soil locks it out from the plant cause it has a medium already wich is why low ph works for hydro the are no microbials excreting enzymes etc the palnt uses

kinda looks like some stress due to overwatering.

heathaa said:

kinda looks like some stress due to overwatering.

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hes running hydro ph for soil its obvious

i ph mine like im trying to tell you to do just go look at the plants in my thread and youll see how happy they are plus ive helped prob about 4-5 newbies in the last 3 days for the exact same thing

thanks for the help guys. Ocalli i gave them a light feeding this morning with 6.4 they seem to be looking a little better hard to tell only been like 8 hours, however the leaves do feel a little more healthy. The thing is that i have gotten so much conflicting information its hard to decide what is the best option. one hydro store here in town suggested 5.8 was the perfect ph and another says 6.3. Also on my last run before ip had a meter i was successfully feeding them solution of 4.0 in soil with good results, this is partly the reason i was so reluctant to think low ph. Any idea how that could of been? Again thanks for the help Ocalli

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also give it 3 days then really give her a close look shell be alot better also faulty ph meter or set to read 4.0 when actually reading 7.0 also give them a ph feeding 6.8 and trust me they will bounce back faster and harder

5.8 is the average ph of rain...so naturally a plant will enjoy a ph of 5.8.....but the complete balance of ph truely lies within 5.5 -6.5 and between those as you can see in the graphs is a varried intake of minerals it is really up to you to figure out what your plant likes and what it needs....When I water only...just water 5.8 ......feeding between 6.0 and 6.5...thats just me

Look at the graphs exactly and read the `1st one is hydro bottom one is soil go feed your soil plants 5.8 to 6.5 and youll deff get defficencys Also the rain isnt feeding the plant its the nutrients in the soil when rain gets into the dirt its ph raises you think if our rain wasnt so polluted wed have a more neutral rain than an acidic one since water is a naturaly neutral substance

bryon209 said:

5.8 is the average ph of rain...so naturally a plant will enjoy a ph of 5.8.....but the complete balance of ph truely lies within 5.5 -6.5 and between those as you can see in the graphs is a varried intake of minerals it is really up to you to figure out what your plant likes and what it needs....when i water only...just water 5.8 ......feeding between 6.0 and 6.5...thats just me

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The graph shows you exactly the best to feed and that is 6.6 to 6.8 for optimal results which i know i strive for with this plant for sure hands down

Whatever works for you I guess.

I guess all I was saying is dont tell him that specific ph will work for him guranteed. because it might not....depending on all the variables he may need to go to the low end of the scale or the high end....I am guessing thats why the recomended is between 5.5 and 6.5 because you have to figure out what works not ask some guy on the internet and pretend he is the final say so because he has 4000 posts

Bingo on the PH problems. I would maybe think about flushing first then start fresh with lite nutes. the PH in your soil is off and causing lockouts. plants also look a little dark which could be too much N.. again, this could all be from ph problems not a real deficiency in what you are putting in.

Also.. tahoe OG (almost any OG i have messed with) can be a little bitchy IMO.

Again thanks for all the input, I flushed and upped the ph a bit to see what happens only been a day or so but looks to show a little improvement. Also maybe my ph meter was off although i just had it calibrated maybe that could of been what was fucking me up. When i measure and add nutes before phing the solution my meter reads 3.8-4.0 typically before phing what reading do you guys get? im trying to figure out if my meter is just fucked or a pos. thanks!

Did some more research and found that some people had the same problem when using botanicare nutes which i am. Anyone ever heard or had experience with botanicare?? apparently i am not the first one to be chasing ph since after mixing nutes mine comes out at around 4.0

found this and 99.9% sure this is what happened to me!