^^^HELP ME BUILD A 4000w GROWROOM^^^ ++REP

Hey guys. Im in the process of building a 4000w growroom. I have a empty 2 bedroom house that im gonna use to grow the plants in. I want to produce at least 5-7 lbs every 60-70 days. So I figure 24 plants flowering in one room. Moms, clones and vegging clones in the other bedroom. The entire house is pretty much part of the grow so cutting walls or running ventilation through the house if need be will not be a issue.

My budget is around $3000. I know its not the kind of budget that you would like to have for this type of grow but i think 3 grand will get it going. Ok so we are starting from the beginning. Everything will be documented in this thread so first you need the blueprint. Then you need a shopping list. Thats where i need your help. I dont know anything about building a grow house with this many watts. Im thinking i might have to upgrade the electric work being im going to be running between 4k-6k watts between lights and fans.

So here is the blueprint


Can you guys help me build this growroom? Where do I start? What do I need? Every aspect of building this grow besides building the house pretty much lol. I will glady shoot +REPS to ANYBODY & EVERYBODY who can pitch in a hand on this one.
Im going to post pics and possibly videos of the construction and defintly future grows so you guys can see all of OUR hard work. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SO MUCH AND THANK YOU AGAIN.Im super excited to get this going, but im stuck without your help lol. Talk to ya soon.

GG

Well check out my setup https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/384835-swiftgrow-journal.html and prolly up size a bit. I have a 8x8 tent which Optimal Lighting would be 4 600w HPS for flowering. I only have 2 600w HPS and 2 Kessil H150 LEDs. But I spent much more than 3000$. It really depends tho what your looking for I bought Hydrofarm PowerGRower 8 Packs and broke em down into 4 pack with separate reservoirs. You can build similar set ups cheaper. Its the small things that get ya. Commercial Grade Air Pumps, Air Line, Water Hose, Misc Nuts/Bolts and Fixtures, Tubs, 5gal buckets, PH/PPM testers, Fans, Carbon Filters, Bottles, Panda Film the list goes on forever. For 3000$ you can do alot thn a side note I would go with MH for VEG not HPS. HPS is great for Flowering but lacks blue spectrum that MH provides that helps young plants bush up and keeps inter nodes shorter.

Well theres my 2 cents.

Best of Luck
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/384835-swiftgrow-journal.html

i'd like to do all your homework for you! can i do your taxes too

try reading

Your bloom room would be better off using 2x1000w per fan and filter

SO having 1 fan 2 lights and a carbon filter twice like the pic.


J

SwiftGrow said:

Well check out my setup https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/384835-swiftgrow-journal.html and prolly up size a bit. I have a 8x8 tent which Optimal Lighting would be 4 600w HPS for flowering. I only have 2 600w HPS and 2 Kessil H150 LEDs. But I spent much more than 3000$. It really depends tho what your looking for I bought Hydrofarm PowerGRower 8 Packs and broke em down into 4 pack with separate reservoirs. You can build similar set ups cheaper. Its the small things that get ya. Commercial Grade Air Pumps, Air Line, Water Hose, Misc Nuts/Bolts and Fixtures, Tubs, 5gal buckets, PH/PPM testers, Fans, Carbon Filters, Bottles, Panda Film the list goes on forever. For 3000$ you can do alot thn a side note I would go with MH for VEG not HPS. HPS is great for Flowering but lacks blue spectrum that MH provides that helps young plants bush up and keeps inter nodes shorter.

Well theres my 2 cents.

Best of Luck
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/384835-swiftgrow-journal.html

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What about electrical work... what typr oe electrical work would i have to do to run that type of wattage in the house?

jondamon said:

Your bloom room would be better off using 2x1000w per fan and filter

SO having 1 fan 2 lights and a carbon filter twice like the pic.


J

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I like the idea but im trying to hit a 5-7lb range and i dont think that 2000w would cut it. I like the idea of having 1 fan for the 2 lights but most likely would have 1 big carbon srubber for the flowering room. Thanks for the Ideas keep em coming.

GuerrillaGreenery said:

What about electrical work... what typr oe electrical work would i have to do to run that type of wattage in the house?

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It depends on if you want it professionally wired or you just want to work with the existing electrical.

Each 1000W is going to take 9 amps @120V so you need 4 - 15-20Amp circuits to run the lights off of. You should only use 80% of the capacity so you need only 1 light per circuit.

Now, you have one for the bedroom, one for the living room, one for the kitchen, maybe a separate one for the bathroom, etc... If you have enough branch circuits you could run extension cords (not my favorite but it is a vacant house) from the various circuits to the grow room. Otherwise you are going to want to have a 60 amp or higher sub-panel to run the lights.

Go to the electrical panel and count the number of circuits labelled 15 or 20 to see how many circuits you have.

u can safely run 1500w on a 15 amp breaker with out tripping it! i had 2 600w lights,2 can fans,and a few other small fans for my last grow all on 1 15 amp breaker... so u just pretty much gutta do the math once u have all ur lights and fans.... if ur lighting and fans are gunna over power 15 amp breakers ur gunna need to get someone to come rewire ur house with 20 amp breakers which is gunna cost some dough! lol...or u can run extention cords from other rooms to get power...most rooms in a house have their own breaker...i dunno if 3 grand is enough to op a (grow house) but u can def. start somthing with 3 grand!... good luck man,i hope to see this running somtime!

GuerrillaGreenery said:

I like the idea but im trying to hit a 5-7lb range and i dont think that 2000w would cut it. I like the idea of having 1 fan for the 2 lights but most likely would have 1 big carbon srubber for the flowering room. Thanks for the Ideas keep em coming.

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Thats not what i meant.

I meant like this

Carbon filter - 1000w - 1000w - fan - exhaust out
Carbon filter - 1000w - 1000w - fan - exhaust out

almost like 2 lightng systems! The way you have yours designed there are alot of bends that will reduce the effectiveness of your fans. The straighter you can keep all ducting work etc the better.


J

GuerrillaGreenery said:

Hey guys. Im in the process of building a 4000w growroom. I have a empty 2 bedroom house that im gonna use to grow the plants in. I want to produce at least 5-7 lbs every 60-70 days. So I figure 24 plants flowering in one room. Moms, clones and vegging clones in the other bedroom. The entire house is pretty much part of the grow so cutting walls or running ventilation through the house if need be will not be a issue.

My budget is around $3000. I know its not the kind of budget that you would like to have for this type of grow but i think 3 grand will get it going. Ok so we are starting from the beginning. Everything will be documented in this thread so first you need the blueprint. Then you need a shopping list. Thats where i need your help. I dont know anything about building a grow house with this many watts. Im thinking i might have to upgrade the electric work being im going to be running between 4k-6k watts between lights and fans.

So here is the blueprint

Can you guys help me build this growroom? Where do I start? What do I need? Every aspect of building this grow besides building the house pretty much lol. I will glady shoot +REPS to ANYBODY & EVERYBODY who can pitch in a hand on this one.
Im going to post pics and possibly videos of the construction and defintly future grows so you guys can see all of OUR hard work. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SO MUCH AND THANK YOU AGAIN.Im super excited to get this going, but im stuck without your help lol. Talk to ya soon.

GG

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type in the adv search Al,b.fuct and click on thread how to harvest a pound every 2 weeks with sog. this would be perfect for you and a better producing op than your plan.

NLXSK1 said:

It depends on if you want it professionally wired or you just want to work with the existing electrical.

Each 1000W is going to take 9 amps @120V so you need 4 - 15-20Amp circuits to run the lights off of. You should only use 80% of the capacity so you need only 1 light per circuit.

Now, you have one for the bedroom, one for the living room, one for the kitchen, maybe a separate one for the bathroom, etc... If you have enough branch circuits you could run extension cords (not my favorite but it is a vacant house) from the various circuits to the grow room. Otherwise you are going to want to have a 60 amp or higher sub-panel to run the lights.

Go to the electrical panel and count the number of circuits labelled 15 or 20 to see how many circuits you have.

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OK thanks for the input, im taking notes on everything. I know nothing about electric work. i have a few questions for you.

#1 what do you mean i should only run 80% capacity? Does that mean I should only run 80% because you dont want to over load the circut? am i right?

#2 And what would adding a 60 amp or higher sub-panel involve? Is it something that i could do myself with regular tools or does that involve me having to hire a electrician?

#3 Now when i go to the electric panel I look for the like big switches and count those or is something labeled 15 and 20?

Thanks

GNOME GROWN said:

u can safely run 1500w on a 15 amp breaker with out tripping it! i had 2 600w lights,2 can fans,and a few other small fans for my last grow all on 1 15 amp breaker... so u just pretty much gutta do the math once u have all ur lights and fans.... if ur lighting and fans are gunna over power 15 amp breakers ur gunna need to get someone to come rewire ur house with 20 amp breakers which is gunna cost some dough! lol...or u can run extention cords from other rooms to get power...most rooms in a house have their own breaker...i dunno if 3 grand is enough to op a (grow house) but u can def. start somthing with 3 grand!... good luck man,i hope to see this running somtime!

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Right I understand about adding up all your watts and makking sure you have enough amps. Rewireing to 20 amp breakers is nothing i could do myself? And i really dont want to really think of it as a "grow house" more like a "grow room" in a house dedicated for growing.

And how many watts is A LOT of watts to run out a single house? Just on a average. Like if I had like electric stove, electric fridge, electric water heater, big screens, all that shit. like in that perspective.

GuerrillaGreenery said:

OK thanks for the input, im taking notes on everything. I know nothing about electric work. i have a few questions for you.

#1 what do you mean i should only run 80% capacity? Does that mean I should only run 80% because you dont want to over load the circut? am i right?

#2 And what would adding a 60 amp or higher sub-panel involve? Is it something that i could do myself with regular tools or does that involve me having to hire a electrician?

#3 Now when i go to the electric panel I look for the like big switches and count those or is something labeled 15 and 20?

Thanks

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1. 80% because you dont want to heat up the circuit. 12 amps for a 15 amp breaker & 16 amps for a 20 amp breaker.

2. With your lack of knowledge, yes a 60 amp panel would need to be installed by an electrician.

3. Open the main electrical panel exterior cover and look at the switches. See if you can see a number on the big switch. It should say (200, 150, 100, or 60) 200 is common today. Now look at the smaller breakers and quite a few of them will be 15 or 20 amp. Count those up. Those are the individual circuits you can use for lighting.

jondamon said:

Thats not what i meant.

I meant like this

Carbon filter - 1000w - 1000w - fan - exhaust out
Carbon filter - 1000w - 1000w - fan - exhaust out

almost like 2 lightng systems! The way you have yours designed there are alot of bends that will reduce the effectiveness of your fans. The straighter you can keep all ducting work etc the better.


J

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Oh ok Right right. Thats how i plan to do it. My picture was a little rough lol. But the black thin lines are the drip irrigation lol But i would i need 2 filters on both ends? I couldnt just run a bigger filter and a bigger fan on one end? Like

Carbon filter-8'' fan-1000w-duct down
Intake-6'' fan-exhaust out

Or something like that just with a bigger filter???

NLXSK1 said:

1. 80% because you dont want to heat up the circuit. 12 amps for a 15 amp breaker & 16 amps for a 20 amp breaker.

2. With your lack of knowledge, yes a 60 amp panel would need to be installed by an electrician.

3. Open the main electrical panel exterior cover and look at the switches. See if you can see a number on the big switch. It should say (200, 150, 100, or 60) 200 is common today. Now look at the smaller breakers and quite a few of them will be 15 or 20 amp. Count those up. Those are the individual circuits you can use for lighting.

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Ok and I should have at least how many to run the flowering room with fans and everything? Excluding the veg area because thats not important.

GuerrillaGreenery said:

Ok and I should have at least how many to run the flowering room with fans and everything? Excluding the veg area because thats not important.

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You need at least 4 for the lights. You can piggyback some of the smaller stuff onto those circuits. If you need a dehumidifier or something else that would mean you need at least 5 circuits.

Wow man, I would be more then happy to help you out. Dont worry about my post's or anything, because I am not a noob.
But 3G's is alot of money. You definitly are going to get somewhere and you have a good future of growing ahead of you man.
Im thrilled to see someone put so much effort in a project.

LBH

NLXSK1 said:

You need at least 4 for the lights. You can piggyback some of the smaller stuff onto those circuits. If you need a dehumidifier or something else that would mean you need at least 5 circuits.

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So really I need close to 6 circuits to run a comfortable operation without having to worry about blowing circuits and shit right?

If I was you I would run the 60amp subpanel and redo your outlets to be 220. The ballast that use 220 run more efficient and run cooler.

GuerrillaGreenery said:

So really I need close to 6 circuits to run a comfortable operation without having to worry about blowing circuits and shit right?

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Understand, the 1000W pull ALOT of power. They take 9 amps. My dehumidifier takes up to 6 amps. My fans take 2-3 amps. 6 would be good but you can probably do it easily with 5. Remember the AC and appliances will be on other circuits in the panel.