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Barrybee

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I planted my plants October 31st I transplanted them November 15th once I transplanted them I use micro Raza and the plants have not grown any taller since then they are just growing outward I'm using Fox Farm soil and I'm also using Sensi grow a and b now I'm using the fox farm Trio can somebody please tell me what's wrong with my plants
 

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Chip Green

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Just a gut feeling here really, but based on that freaky deeky foxtailing, and what looks like a maximum case of red/purple stem, you have a soil PH of less than 5.
 

Dryxi

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Could it come from ma RH was 22% throughout the grow
Your rh being low wouldn't do that I dont think. I've had a rh of about 30 almost all grow since its winter here and mine grow fine.

There is definitely a different issue going on. You didn't say, but when did you switch the lights to 12/12? Just curious.
 

ChiefRunningPhist

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Hard to tell what's going on with the color from the grow light. If you can get some better pics with better lighting that'd help. Just a few. (The shorter ones)

In one it looked like maybe your soil was really wet? How often you watering?

22% RH is not very ideal, I try to at least shoot for 50%.

What temps? Foxtailing can be heat.

Hard to tell again, but looked like some were really heavy on N.
 

Barrybee

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Hard to tell what's going on with the color from the grow light. If you can get some better pics with better lighting that'd help. Just a few. (The shorter ones)

In one it looked like maybe your soil was really wet? How often you watering?

22% RH is not very ideal, I try to at least shoot for 50%.

What temps? Foxtailing can be heat.

Hard to tell again, but looked like some were really heavy on N.
 

Barrybee

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Lights on 75 degrees 19% RH for the first month and a half I used cal-mag and water no nutrients I feed my plants every 3 days because the pot becomes extremely light the plant that is foxtailing it started off growing straight up... tall an linky.. I lowered the lights but it just kept growing straight up last month I started to give it nutrients pH my water check my ppm's but this is the outcome could it come from transplanting and disturbing The Roots
 

Dryxi

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Lights on 75 degrees 19% RH for the first month and a half I used cal-mag and water no nutrients I feed my plants every 3 days because the pot becomes extremely light the plant that is foxtailing it started off growing straight up... tall an linky.. I lowered the lights but it just kept growing straight up last month I started to give it nutrients pH my water check my ppm's but this is the outcome could it come from transplanting and disturbing The Roots
You dont have to feed every watering typically (the pot light because it has less water, not necessarily because it is hungry). When the rh is lower, the plants go through water much faster.
 

ChiefRunningPhist

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Lights on 75 degrees 19% RH for the first month and a half I used cal-mag and water no nutrients I feed my plants every 3 days because the pot becomes extremely light the plant that is foxtailing it started off growing straight up... tall an linky.. I lowered the lights but it just kept growing straight up last month I started to give it nutrients pH my water check my ppm's but this is the outcome could it come from transplanting and disturbing The Roots
You dont have to feed every watering typically (the pot light because it has less water, not necessarily because it is hungry). When the rh is lower, the plants go through water much faster.
Ya that's really low RH. Are you using tap water? I have tap water that's high in Ca (200ppm) and if my RH is low my plant drinks too much of my nute water and gets nute burn.

Low RH plant drinks alot. High RH plant drinks less.

If I added less nutes to lower my ppm the Ca from my water would then be out of balance and too high compared to the other nutes and I will get lockout.

In order to keep my nutes balanced and not overly high in Ca I don't use Ca-Mg and have to add my nutes at a little higher than whats typically recommended (for certain growth stages) but then I'm trying to control how much the plant drinks with my RH. I grow in hydro so this is possible.

For you, at that low RH, and using FF soil with lots of nutes in it already, I'd water with only distilled water so I wasn't adding to the salt composition after the water had evaporated. Even then, at 19% RH, the plant may drink too much of the water and dissolving nute solution as your water rests in the FF soil. Do you pH your water?

I don't think your issues are from a transplant shock. I looked up the pink grapefruit strain and it seems to have some natural foxtail tendencies, but not as much as yours.
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Your issues could be root issues, but many people transplant and transplants alone don't kill. Did you transplant into same soil composition? Are you done with the grow? Dig up the roots and smell em, do they look white? Are they slimy?

Just curious if you've done a run-off test? PH run-off tests are notoriously misleading, but I'd be curious what your ppm would read.
 
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ChiefRunningPhist

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50/50 coco/xlg perlite, my ppm varies over the life of the grow.
Do you use tap water?

What kind of lights? Just trying to get an idea for comparison.

What has been your max ppm range with respect to each type, indica and sativa (no sweat if you don't remember or didn't record) and what approximate day of flower or veg would that be?
 

curious2garden

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Do you use tap water?

What kind of lights? Just trying to get an idea for comparison.

What has been your max ppm range with respect to each type, indica and sativa (no sweat if you don't remember or didn't record) and what approximate day of flower or veg would that be?
I use T5, MH in veg and HPS in flower. I use tap water that runs about 250 PPM mostly Ca/Mg and GH Flora series with CaliMagic and a Silica additive. The highest PPM I've run is about 5ish week in flower is 1200 (so about 950ish nutrients). That was Female seeds C99, usually I'm around 950ish (700 nutrients).

I can't say I've run any pure landrace genetics, mostly mixed.

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ChiefRunningPhist

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I use T5, MH in veg and HPS in flower. I use tap water that runs about 250 PPM mostly Ca/Mg and GH Flora series with CaliMagic and a Silica additive. The highest PPM I've run is about 5ish week in flower is 1200 (so about 950ish nutrients). That was Female seeds C99, usually I'm around 950ish (700 nutrients).

I can't say I've run any pure landrace genetics, mostly mixed.

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Is that a flood table in a bathtub? Sorry just can't see if its just a container or used as part of your hydro. Hand watered or timers? Ever use GH maxibloom (and then ill stop with the 20 questions lol thanks)?
 

curious2garden

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Is that a flood table in a bathtub? Sorry just can't see if its just a container or used as part of your hydro. Hand watered or timers? Ever use GH maxibloom (and then ill stop with the 20 questions lol thanks)?
It's 2 gallon containers on a 5x5 table. Hand watered and no I only use GH Flora three part and some Dyna Gro products (Foliage Pro). I don't mind talking about this with you but let's take it to PM and not screw up his thread anymore LOL
 
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