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chakavak

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Hello everyone

first of all excuse me for my bad english I'm just desperately trying to save my girls and don't know anyone who grow medicine . All comments are appreciated even on a unrelated matters .
this is my first grow . dinifem mobydick auto and critical 2.0+ auto , week 3 . I have a 27 x 27 x 70 inch grow cabinet with two medium fan for exhaust and intake . 400w hps osram full spectrum 20 on / 4 off schedule . I used coco peat and perlite . ph 6.5 . I don't have a EC meter but I use distilled water and no fertilizers yet . average temp and humidity 75°F - 55% .

I just went to a friends house for a night and when I came back my healthy plants turn to this . I thought its under watering and Immediately I watered them but its twelve hours later and it doesn't seems to get any better .two of my plant where in veg area and they seem fine to me . I reasserted on the net and couldn't find anything . It would be a great deal to me .

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with regards


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KryptoBud

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mattyblade1 said:
How far is the light from the plants? If your growing in coco/perlite you should be feeding them at least half strength Nutes now.

Have you feed them at all yet?
Have you been over watering? They look over watered to me.

Cheers
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You need to feed plants in coco a lot earlier than you would in soil. You should adjust your ph to 5.8 in coco. You will need cal-mag if using ro or distilled water.
 
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chakavak

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mattyblade1 said:
How far is the light from the plants? If your growing in coco/perlite you should be feeding them at least half strength Nutes now.

Have you feed them at all yet?
Have you been over watering? They look over watered to me.

Cheers
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tnx for reply , My light is 60cm above the canopy . I feed them once with 20-20-20 plant master (best thing I could find) quarter dosage previous watering which was five days ago .
 
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chakavak

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as far as I know i shouldn't transplant these and I already have fans blowing at them . I use a moisture meter to see if the soil is dry or not . maybe mine is broken because I only water them when its close to drying out . any advice on what to do now ? will they recover ?
 
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tyke1973

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Go by the weight of the pot,when you re pot ,do this you will find it loves it put a air ring in the bottom of the pot and connect to a fish tank pump just a ring made from spaghetti tubing with a few holes in the side,with a layer of perlite or larva rock over it then soil,have it on all the time,coco is great all i use but it needs plenty of air pockets or loads of perlite because it can become a little like a human trying to breath through a damp towel.

I can pretty much say that i think that this is your problem if you re pot add larva rock or clay balls any thing to get air into the roots,i had the same problem when i used the coco bricks once,the plant looks healthy apart from the clawing it can be rectified,just add what ever you can get hold of to add air pockets for the roots to breath,or the ring
 
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mattyblade1

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chakavak said:
tnx for reply , My light is 60cm above the canopy . I feed them once with 20-20-20 plant master (best thing I could find) quarter dosage previous watering which was five days ago .
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Sorry I was going to say that perhaps it's over watering but it's very hard to over water in coco, essentially it's hydro so very hard to over water. Every time you water using coco as a medium you give the roots 30% oxygen, this is why I love growing in it. I would give them a half strength feed and see what happens. Make certain you ph is between 5.5 and 6.0, this works for me and have had nothing but excellent results. Keep the pics coming over the next week and let's see the improvement kick in.
 
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chakavak

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tyke1973 said:
Go by the weight of the pot,when you re pot ,do this you will find it loves it put a air ring in the bottom of the pot and connect to a fish tank pump just a ring made from spaghetti tubing with a few holes in the side,with a layer of perlite or larva rock over it then soil,have it on all the time,coco is great all i use but it needs plenty of air pockets or loads of perlite because it can become a little like a human trying to breath through a damp towel.

I can pretty much say that i think that this is your problem if you re pot add larva rock or clay balls any thing to get air into the roots,i had the same problem when i used the coco bricks once,the plant looks healthy apart from the clawing it can be rectified,just add what ever you can get hold of to add air pockets for the roots to breath,or the ring
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thanks a lot for useful information . just to be sure they were pretty ok till last night and my other two plants which are in veg area are in same condition except for lighting which is CFL and they seem fine , could there be any other factor that make this worst and is there anything I could do for these plants because as far as I know I couldn't repot them now . Will they recover ?
 
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chakavak

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mattyblade1 said:
Sorry I was going to say that perhaps it's over watering but it's very hard to over water in coco, essentially it's hydro so very hard to over water. Every time you water using coco as a medium you give the roots 30% oxygen, this is why I love growing in it. I would give them a half strength feed and see what happens. Make certain you ph is between 5.5 and 6.0, this works for me and have had nothing but excellent results. Keep the pics coming over the next week and let's see the improvement kick in.
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I'm really glad that there are people like you guys which help newbies like me . I will feed them next watering and post the pics if they survive .
 
tyke1973

tyke1973

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chakavak said:
http://www.datisac.com/?portfolio=کودهای-جامد-پودری

this is the link for my nuts . It's really hard for me to get the basic stuff where I live but the guy who sold me the fertilizer told me that its designed for hydroponics but its possible to use it with coco . I doesn't trust him 100% but he seem legit
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If I lived some where and could not source high grade growing stuff nutrients medium ext then I would have gone with the coco you got but nutrient wise farm yard stuff teas ext,gotta give you respect dude ya seem to be struggling with getting the stuff but at least ya still trying ,hessium sack full of farm yard stuff cow shit chicken mess, Or any animal waste,also pot ash from a fire,stuff like dead fish in with the water and feed it the plants they would have loved it plus,ya would have had medication that you know what's in it.,silt from local ponds or rivers ,just make sure you leave it to dry at the side of a pond or river so any life in it can get back to the place you took the silt from,that's if you are doing a outdoor,wish we had sun I would never flower indoors other than breeding
 
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chakavak

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tyke1973 said:
If I lived some where and could not source high grade growing stuff nutrients medium ext then I would have gone with the coco you got but nutrient wise farm yard stuff teas ext,gotta give you respect dude ya seem to be struggling with getting the stuff but at least ya still trying ,hessium sack full of farm yard stuff cow shit chicken mess, Or any animal waste,also pot ash from a fire,stuff like dead fish in with the water and feed it the plants they would have loved it plus,ya would have had medication that you know what's in it.,silt from local ponds or rivers ,just make sure you leave it to dry at the side of a pond or river so any life in it can get back to the place you took the silt from,that's if you are doing a outdoor,wish we had sun I would never flower indoors other than breeding
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I really appreciate your advices . Your words made me think again about some stuff . I will try to find some good fert from city and hope its not too late . I have a outdoor garden but we got really high humidity (mostly above 70%) and I had mold problem in the past so I tried indoor this time .
I was thinking of drilling a few holes on the side of the pots to help the aeration do you think it is a right thing to do ???
 
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tyke1973

tyke1973

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chakavak said:
I really appreciate your advices . Your words made me think again about some stuff . I will try to find some good fert from city and hope its not too late . I have a outdoor garden but we got really high humidity (mostly above 70%) and I had mold problem in the past so I tried indoor this time .
I was thinking of drilling a few holes on the side of the pots to help the aeration do you think it is a right thing to do ???
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Yes this would help you can use stuff like polyestryne break it up and use that till you find something better
 
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