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Help me save a seed

avillax

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So today is day 6 after planting the seeds in wet jiffy pellets the 2 Fast Buds seeds already have a long trunk and leafs but the 1 pyramid seed has had a tail sticking out since day 2 of planting without further progress. It doesn't look dead but it is definitely not growing anymore.

Other details:
The Fast Buds seeds came on the mail a week ago and I immediately planted them.
The Pyramid Seed had been kept in storage for 4 months.

What should I do?
 

dgthumb

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So today is day 6 after planting the seeds in wet jiffy pellets the 2 Fast Buds seeds already have a long trunk and leafs but the 1 pyramid seed has had a tail sticking out since day 2 of planting without further progress. It doesn't look dead but it is definitely not growing anymore.

Other details:
The Fast Buds seeds came on the mail a week ago and I immediately planted them.
The Pyramid Seed had been kept in storage for 4 months.

What should I do?
Got photos?
 

avillax

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No, but it is easy, it is open and has a root sticking out but no further growth, what I've just done is to place the jiffy pellet in a cup with water since I noticed it had lost some humidity, and now I planted the seed with the tail facing down (assuming it is the root) the other half of the shelf is partially exposed and just put some of the jiffy pellet dirt on the sides then placed a dome on top. Is this good?
 

dgthumb

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Does the root look slimy or gooey? How long since it cracked open and grew a root tip has it been?
I usually put my seeds (once they crack) about 1/4 inch below the surface, root down, and let em find their own way up.
 

$bkbbudz$

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No, but it is easy, it is open and has a root sticking out but no further growth, what I've just done is to place the jiffy pellet in a cup with water since I noticed it had lost some humidity, and now I planted the seed with the tail facing down (assuming it is the root) the other half of the shelf is partially exposed and just put some of the jiffy pellet dirt on the sides then placed a dome on top. Is this good?
The seedling was in all likelihood inverted...you took the proper steps.

Good Luck and Great Growz
 

$bkbbudz$

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the next time you buy seeds ask the banker to spit on the seeds before packing

in most cases the seeds are semi germed on arrival

and makes work a lot easier

right now the clue in in the newbies "wet jiffy"

avoid wet jiffy, ensure its damp and warm 25c is good

good luck
I like it...BUT, sounds pretty gross...think I'll pass on the spittle. LOL!
 

avillax

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It gave me the impression that perhaps the shell was too hard. I'm going to leave it planted as I mentioned, then check after a few days and if it is still the same then what?
 

dgthumb

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Its hard sometimes but. .. I would leave alone let em do there thing! Just do not drownd them! I killed a baby recently totally over watered!
I second this, just leave the seed alone, don't over water. I've seen seeds take almost two weeks to sprout, but man when they did they took off. My rule of thumb, two weeks no signs I check, if the seed looks the same I write it off.
 

alaskachic

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So I had a critical mass bean. No crack nothing in two wks. So I got pissed & through it soil & all out into the yard. Be so crazy if it actually planted itself! Probably not but I keep eye out anyway as spring is here. Like _2 months early.
 

researching

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Yes too much water is a seedlings worst enemy. As vostok eluded to regarding the jiffy pellets. The key is damp/moist. Follow that and your seedling survivability will go way up. Ask me how I learned lol
 

avillax

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By the way, one of the seeds that came out pretty quick had the shell still on and the leafs stuck so I removed the shell but some sort of protective skin remains and it keeps the leafs folded but I tried to remove that one and I coulndn't and am very scared of yanking the whole thing off so I'm just gonna leave it like that, will it get rid of that skin on its own?
 

alaskachic

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Hey avillax omg please please do not touch that seedling Anymore! Look on YouTube. Most of the time when the seed finally pops the soil, the seed is often still attached to the tiny little leaf that is yet to be strong enough to pop off the remaining part of the shell. Wow you be really lucky if that thing lives.please try and not force Mother Nature like that.! Not trying to be mean but hands off is better than too much hands-on. all a learning curve. I think I better pray for you and your little seedling I worry for you happy growing nevertheless and much love coming your way from the 61st North love to that little bean.I can talk a little smack because I killed a seedling recently. I actually cried as I have never killed any plant flower food whatever in my life!
 

avillax

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Thanks alaskachic, great minds thing alike. I have decided to leave it alone but also I've decided to pop up another pyramid seeds, this one is Tutankhamen, if Kryptonite survives , it will have to compete against it for light. I just don't want seeds to bring me down, I don't want bitching, I don't want divas, so if it survives, great but now it will have competition.
 

avillax

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So the Kryptonite seed has absolute no signs of life, then I tried to germinate a Tutankhamen seed with the wet napkins method and checking every 12 hours and after 30 hours it hasn't cracked so I've just prepared a jiffy pellet and placed the seed in it.

Thing is, this seed bank, Pyramid Seeds, is already showing very bad signs, they're from Spain, I just performed a search in Spanish and on many sites people say that their plants have amazing quality and production but have huge issues with germination being very slow to germinate or dying when seed.

In comparison with Fast Buds: The Mexican Airlines is a beast: it Popped came out to the surface of the jiffy pellet in 2 days and now at day 8 it is 4 inches tall with 4 leafs, the Crystal Meth also came out in 2 days and it still has the shell on (tried to remove it but it seems it still needs to grow more) and is showing slow growth but it's very alive.

I personally met the Pyramid Seed guys in Cannafest 2015 in Prague and they told me they were the bomb and that they were supplying other seed banks in Europe, best quality, etc. Also Europeans think they are much more advanced than Americans when it comes to seed banks but so far they've been shit.
 

alaskachic

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Well if you can-_ sow those beans tomorrow on the new moon cracked or not! Some strains can take up to 2 wks get going. After that should pop surface in 3-10 days. Keep soil moist Not soggy! Seedlings no like wet soggy! Checkout my special k#1. For me, I keep top layer of soil on the dry side. I will give it a wee drink on Thursday. As the moon aligns with earth all subtle bodies of water surge upwards. Moisture in soil at its peak. 3-4 tblspoons all I give her.
 

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alaskachic

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OK so tomorrow I transp this little one. Has been the weakest so far. I sowed this on 2-27 . was nearly open. Tiny tiny beany! Now watch it explode with the bigger pot. This is Royal Queen bean. Only survivor out of 3 from seedsmen. She a bit weak. Was totally wrong time to sow. My own experiment. Down Mataro Blue & Sweet Tooth tomorro. Then we see all the Beni's of moon phase gardening
 
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