Help Me Solve This Problem (First Grow)

fabfun

New Member
ok i think u made your feelings clear
and u say u got the upmost respect for me well if thats true why dont u let it go
u said what u got to say now it seems u just want to beat a dead horse

Hey stop correcting me in a nice way man!lol! I am hashed! I think we are getting to the same conclusion especially when you say learning kills plants, it really dose.
 

PeacefulKid1992

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Ok you know that there is foods for vegg and flower, now learn what these foods consist of and what each element in it's purpose is, read def charts, and just go thru and think of what it could possibly be, then look at people thread that think might have the same problems and read thru those threads. We can try and guess what your problems could be but only YOU know what you do the the plants day in and day out..Sometimes you might forget to mention the smallest things that have the most effects on your ladies.. Leaning is just killing alot of plants in that process lol and when that happens alot of people quit and say maybe im not cut out for this, and they don't know what joys in life growing brings ( and the money ain't bad either lol) You will FUCK UP, You will KILL PLANTS, You will have to ask questions that you might think people will think are stupid questions and there is always some asshole that will say something cocky that will piss you off but thats when you have to let it roll off your shoulder and wait for someone with real Know how to help you and eventually they will. You know what pisses me off about people alot of the time is when you get some cocky dickhead on here that calls people "NOOBS" and yet their the ones giving wrong advice, but the best way to get them is not to get mad but to correct them the nicest way possible.. food for thought
well this is why im here all the time to talk to friends,and to learn im here everyday reading n reading,the food contains a percentage and it differs from brand n food type, it contains cal, nitrogen, iron, mag, and alot more all these stuff the plant needs to survive, this is why they are defects. But i do got a big fan runinng on them.
 

Kingrow1

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Yer i hear you fabfun but his still look a bit electrifying. One of the best investments i ever made was good lights and good nutes. Seen me right a lot of time but yer my first grow was small with few odd wires but it was safe. I loved my 2ft t8 and t5 flourescents when i started out, got em at fish shops, they kick ass over cfl's; I got cfl's all over the house and they suck, i know were meant to be saving the planet but they don't really give off much light and make you feel depressed. Flourescents are cheap too if you want em to be. I love my lightwave though, solid, reliable and bright, get me to the flowering stage easy, really recomend em but yer there is the price issue.
 

max316420

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I started with a 400 watt hps that i saved up for, now I probably have about $13,000 dollars just in lights lol but it took a span of over 10 years to acum at my equipment
 

Kingrow1

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Before i go to bed i will find a link or info for you on nutes peacefull kid, do not read too much into it but it is probably a start!
 

Kingrow1

Well-Known Member
I want a 250hps but dont know if it will do a 3ft by 3ft grow, my cfls seem better than i had hoped but 450watts over a 3ftby3ft area should be good.
 

max316420

Well-Known Member
@ peaceful

READ THIS:


Basic Marijuana Growing Information

Basic Marijuana Growing Information - Learn all the basic facts and growing techniques for marijuana.
Marijuana is a deciduous plant which grows from seeds. The fibrous section of the plant was (has been replaced by synthetics) used to make rope. The flowering tops, leaves, seeds, and resin of the plant is used by just about everyone to get HIGH.

Normally, the vegetable parts of the plant are smoked to produce this "high," but they can also be eaten. The active ingredient in marijuana resin is THC (tetrahydrocannabinol(THC). Marijuana contains from 1 - 4 per cent THC (4 per cent must be considered GOOD dope).

Marijuana grows wild in many parts of the world, and is cultivated in Mexico, Vietnam, Africa, Nepal, India, South America, etc.,etc. The marijuana sold in the United States comes primarily from, yes, the United States.

It is estimated that at least 50 per cent of the grass on the streets in America is homegrown. The next largest bunch comes across the borders from Mexico, with smaller amounts filtering in from Panama, occasionally South America, and occasionally, Africa.

Hashish is the pure resin of the marijuana plant, which is scraped from the flowering tops of the plant and lumped together. Ganja is the ground-up tops of the finest plants. (It is also the name given to any sort of marijuana in Jamaica.)

Marijuana will deteriorate in about two years if exposed to light, air or heat. It should always be stored in cool places.

Grass prices in the United States are a direct reflection of the laws of supply and demand (and you thought that high school economics would never be useful). A series of large border busts, a short growing season, a bad crop, any number of things can drive the price of marijuana up.

Demand still seems to be on the increase in the U.S., so prices seldom fall below last year's level.

Each year a small seasonal drought occurs, as last year's supply runs low, and next year's crop is not up yet. Prices usually raze about 20 - 75 per cent during this time and then fall back to "normal."

Unquestionably, a large shortage of grass causes a percentage of smokers to turn to harder drugs instead. For this reason, no grass control program can ever be beneficial or "successful."

GROW IT!

There is one surefire way of avoiding high prices and the grass DT's: Grow your own. This is not as difficult as some "authorities" on the subject would make you believe. Marijuana is a weed, and a fairly vivacious one at that, and it will grow almost in spite of you.

OUTDOORS

Contrary to popular belief, grass grows well in many place on the North American continent. It will flourish even if the temperature does not raise above 75 degrees.

The plants do need a minimum of eight hours of sunlight per day and should be planted in late April/early May, BUT DEFINITELY, after the last frost of the year.

Growing an outdoor, or "au natural", crop has been the factored method over the years, because grass seems to grow better without as much attention, when in its natural habitat.

Of course, an outdoors setting requires special precautions not encountered with an indoors crop; you must be able to avoid detection, both
from law enforcement freaks and common freaks, both of whom will take your weed and probably use it. Of course, one will also arrest you. You must also have access to the area to prepare the soil and harvest the crop.

There are two schools of thought about starting the seeds. One says you should start the seedlings for about ten days in an indoor starter box (see the indoor section) and then transplant. The other theory is that you should just start them in the correct location. Fewer plants will come up with this method, but there is no shock of transplant to kill some of the seedlings halfway through.

The soil should be pretreated for the little devils by turning it over a couple of times and adding about one cup of hydrated lime per square yard of soil and a little bit (not too much, now) of good water soluble nitrogen fertilizer. The soil should now be watered several times and left to sit about one week.

The plants should be planted at least three feet apart, getting too greedy and stacking them too close will result in stunted plants.

The plants like some water during their growing season, BUT not too much. This is especially true around the roots, as too much water will rot the root system.

Grass grows well in corn or hops, and these plants will help provide some camouflage. It does not grow well with rye, spinach, or pepper weed.

It is probably a good idea to plant in many small, broken patches, as people tend to notice patterns.

GENERAL GROWING INFO

Both the male and he female plant produce THC resin, although the male is not as strong as the female. In a good crop, the male will still be plenty smokable and should not be thrown away under any circumstances.

Marijuana can reach a height of twenty feet (or would you rather wish on a star) and obtain a diameter of 4 1/2 inches. If normal, it has a sex ratio of about 1:1, but this can be altered in several ways.

The male plant dies in the 12th week of growing, the female will live another 3 - 5 weeks to produce her youngens. Females can weigh twice as much as males when they are mature.

Marijuana soil should compact when you squeeze it, but should also break apart with a small pressure and absorb water well. A nice test for either indoor or outdoor growing is to add a bunch of worms to the soil, if they live and hang around, it is good soil, but if they don't, well, change it. Worms also help keep the soil loose enough for the plants to grow well.

SEEDS

To get good grass, you should start with the right seeds. A nice starting point is to save the seeds form the best batch you have consumed. The seeds should be virile, that is, they should not be grey and shriveled up, but green, meaty, and healthy appearing. A nice test is to drop the seeds on a hot frying pan. If they "CRACK," they are probably good for planting purposes.

The seeds should be soaked in distilled water overnight before planting. BE SURE to plant in the ground with the pointy end UP. Plant about 1/2" deep.

Healthy seeds will sprout in about five days.

SPROUTING

The best all around sprouting marijuana seeds method is probably to make a sprouting box (as sold in nurseries) with a slated bottom or use paper cups with holes punched in the bottoms. The sprouting soil should be a mixture of humus, soil, and five sand with a bit of organic fertilizer and water mixed in about one week before planting.

When ready to transplant, you must be sure and leave a ball of soil around the roots of each plant. This whole ball is dropped into a baseball-sized hold in the permanent soil.

If you are growing/transplanting indoors, you should use a green safe light (purchased at nurseries) during the transplanting operation. If you are transplanting outdoors, you should time it about two hours before sunset to avoid damage to the plant. Always wear cotton gloves when handling the young plants.

After the plants are set in the hole, you should water them. It is also a good idea to use a commercial transplant chemical (also purchased at nurseries) to help then overcome the shock.

INDOOR GROWING

Indoor growing has many advantages, besides the apparent fact that it is much harder to have your crop "found," you can control the ambient conditions just exactly as you want them and get a guaranteed "good" plant.

Plants grown indoors will not appear the same as their outdoor cousins. They will be scrawnier appearing with a weak stems and may even require you to tie them to a growing post to remain upright, BUT THEY WILL HAVE AS MUCH OR MORE RESIN!

If growing in a room, you should put tar paper on the floors and then buy sterilized bags of soil form a nursery. You will need about one cubic foot of soil for each plant.

The plants will need about 150 ml. of water per plant/per week. They will also need fresh air, so the room must be ventilated. (however, the fresh air should contain NO TOBACCO smoke.)

At least eight hours of light a day must be provided. As you increase the light, the plants grow faster and show more females/less males. Sixteen hours of light per day seems to be the best combination, beyond this makes little or no appreciable difference in the plant quality. Another idea is to interrupt the night cycle with about one hour of light. This gives you more females.

The walls of your growing room should be painted white or covered with aluminum foil to reflect the light.

The lights themselves can be either bulbs of fluorescent. Figure about 75 watts per plant or one plant per two feet of fluorescent tube. The fluorescents are the best, but do not use "cool white" types. The light sources should be an average of twenty inches from the plant and NEVER closer than 14 inches. They may be mounted on a rack and moved every few days as the plants grow.

The very best light sources are those made by Sylvania and others especially for growing plants (such as the "Gro lux" types).

HARVESTING MARIJUANA AND DRYING

The male plants will be taller and have about five green or yellow sepals, which will split open to fertilize the female plant with pollen.

The female plant is shorter and has a small pistil late flower, which really doesn't look like a flower at all but rather a small bunch of leaves in
a cluster.

If you don't want any seeds, just good dope, you should pick the males before they shed their pollen as the female will use some of her resin to make the seeds.

After another three to five weeks, after the males are gone, the females will begin to wither and die (from loneliness?), this is the time to pick.

In some nefarious Middle Eastern countries, farmers reportedly put their beehives next to feels of marijuana. The little devils collect the grass pollen for their honey, which is supposed to contain a fair dosage of THC.

The honey is then enjoyed by conventional methods or made into ambrosia.

If you want seeds - let the males shed his pollen then pick him. Let the female go another month and pick her.

To cure the plants, they must be dried. On large crops, this is accomplished by constructing a drying box or drying room.

You must have a heat source (such as an electric heater) which will make the box/room each 130 degrees. The box/room must be ventilated to carry off the water-vapor-laden air and replace it with fresh.

A good box can be constructed from an orange crate with fiberglass insulated walls, vents in the tops, and screen shelves to hold the leaves.
There must be a baffle between the leaves and the heat source.

A quick cure for smaller amounts is to: cut the plant at the soil level and wrap it in a cloth so as not to loose any leaves. Take out any seeds by hand and store. Place all the leaves on a cookie sheet or aluminum foil and put them in the middle shield of the oven, which is set on "broil." In a few seconds, the leaves will smoke and curl up, stir them around and give another ten seconds before you take them out.


PLANT PROBLEM CHART

Always check the overall environmental conditions prior to passing judgment - soil around 7 pH or slightly less - plenty of water, light, fresh air, loose soil, no water standing in pools.
SYMPTOM
PROBABLY PROBLEM/CURE
Larger leaves turning yellow smaller leaves still green.
Nitrogen deficiency - add nitrate of soda or organic fertilizer.
Older leaves will curl at edges, turn dark, possibly with a purple cast.
Phosphorus deficiency - add commercial phosphate.
Mature leaves develop a yellowish cast to least venial areas.
Magnesium deficiency - add commercial fertilizer with a magnesium content.
Mature leaves turn yellow and then become spotted with edge areas turning dark grey.
Potassium deficiency - add marinade of potash
Cracked stems, no healthy support tissue.
Boron deficiency - add any plant food containing boron.
Small wrinkled leaves with yellowish vein systems.
Zinc deficiency - add commercial plant food containing zinc.
Young leaves become deformed possibly yellowing.
Molybdenum deficiency - use any plant food with a bit of molybdenum in it.
 

max316420

Well-Known Member
I want a 250hps but dont know if it will do a 3ft by 3ft grow, my cfls seem better than i had hoped but 450watts over a 3ftby3ft area should be good.

It's very addictive, i started out in a closet and now Im in a whole house and about to buy another house.
 

Kingrow1

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this site has the best advice and grow guide, as you say it keeps it simple, i love this site for its grow guide, really has different veiws on soil growing. Check this too pK, there is more guides if you goto the bottom of the home page-

http://www.mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Soil-Guide

Water guide, same site -

http://www.mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Water-and-pH

http://www.mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Fertilizing-Smart-Guide

And the definitive guide to water from rollitup a sticky not to be missed -

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/294579-water-most-essential-compound.html

Read all this just to start and it will start to turn the wheels in motion, you still have lots to learn on the subjects but max's info and these links should keep you up most the night.
 

dannyboy602

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Yo my man...if u fuck this up I will send you some freebies I got from the tude and you can just try again. We'll walk you through it. I can make anyone into a gardener even if you live a thousand miles from me...lol
 

max316420

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and it just goes to show you PK, ive been growing almost 10+ years and I just completely slaughtered around 75 ladies, burnt them right up. so learn and much as you can and remember even Vets fuck up too
 

Kingrow1

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Maybe but i just love my flourescents for some reason, they have a lot of commercial growing ability, The light spread is awsome even if the penetration is low.
 
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