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destroy

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So yesterday I noticed this problem. Since the plants sprouted on April first they've been problem free. Now all of a sudden they look like crap.

Like I said, they sprouted inside on April first and we switched them into 12-12 on May first. Theyre lit up with 3 amber CFLs (the big ones) and an aerogarden hood. Im using fox farm nutrients in regular tap water, usually watering in the morning and in the evening with maybe a splash of unfertilized tap water during the day if they look dry (the pots were growing in arent that big and tend to dry out quick).

The plants are only presenting symptoms on the top third of the plant, but the bottom leaves have been a little droopy for about a month now. I just chocked it up to less light down there. Its also not effecting the entire plant evenly, with maybe 5-10% of the leaves browning.
 

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So yesterday I noticed this problem. Since the plants sprouted on April first they've been problem free. Now all of a sudden they look like crap.

Like I said, they sprouted inside on April first and we switched them into 12-12 on May first. Theyre lit up with 3 amber CFLs (the big ones) and an aerogarden hood. Im using fox farm nutrients in regular tap water, usually watering in the morning and in the evening with maybe a splash of unfertilized tap water during the day if they look dry (the pots were growing in arent that big and tend to dry out quick).



Looks like nutrient burn whats yor ppm and ph. i would cut back on the nutrients a little
The plants are only presenting symptoms on the top third of the plant, but the bottom leaves have been a little droopy for about a month now. I just chocked it up to less light down there. Its also not effecting the entire plant evenly, with maybe 5-10% of the leaves browning.
 

destroy

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So it looks like theres actualy two different problems. The third picture is the bigger of the two plants. The brown looks more focused on the tips and the leaves are curling alot more. The other three pictures are from a smaller plant with significantly less amount of crystals. That one has brown all through out the leave between the veins and there is no curling at all.
 

Armadillo Slim

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How come they've started budding so early? Are they autoflowers? It looks like nutrient burn to me as well. You could flush them or you could stop the nutrients for a while and see if they recover.
 

jimbizzzale67123

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It looks like a micro Nutrient deficincy, possibly Mn or Mg do some reasearch on micronutrient deficiency it could be many diffrent things that are causeing those necrotic spots to show up intervenial.
 

destroy

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AH what to do what to do...

One plant is really dry and the leaves are all curled over and just break. The other plants have those little necrotic spots all over it.

We only have limited height so we waited till they were at 10" (which happened to be 4 weeks) and switched it to 12-12.

This is killing me, since those ladies sprouted theyve been BEAUTIFUL now I dont even want to look at them.
 

mygirls

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Ozone Damage:
Ozone damage typically found near the generator. Although a rare problem, symptoms generally appear as a Mg deficiency, but the symptoms are localized to immediately around the generator.



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ckshatter

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Ozone Damage:
Ozone damage typically found near the generator. Although a rare problem, symptoms generally appear as a Mg deficiency, but the symptoms are localized to immediately around the generator.


Figure 8
From the same website as the last post but thought maybe nutrient lockout was your problem. probably too late now but hope this info helps if you didn't already find the website =]

Magnesium is a component of the chlorophyll molecule and serves as a cofactor in most enzymes.

Magnesium deficiency will exhibit a yellowing (which may turn brown) and interveinal chlorosis beginning in the older leaves. The older leaves will be the first to develop interveinal chlorosis. Starting at leaf margin or tip and progressing inward between the veins. Notice how the veins remain somewhat green though as can be seen in figure 15.
Notice how in Figure 16 and 17 the leaves curl upwards like they're praying? They're praying for Mg! The tips may also twist.
This can be quickly resolved by watering with 1 tablespoon Epsom salts/gallon of water. Until you can correct nutrient lockout, try foliar feeding. That way the plants get all the nitrogen and Mg they need. The plants can be foliar feed at ½ teaspoon/quart of Epsom salts (first powdered and dissolved in some hot water). When mixing up soil, use 2 teaspoon dolomite lime per gallon of soil.
If the starting water is above 200 ppm, that is pretty hard water, that will lock out mg with all of the calcium in the water. Either add a 1/4 teaspoon per gallon of epsom salts or lime (both will effectively reduce the lockout or invest into a reverse osmosis water filter.
Mg can get locked-up by too much Ca, Cl or ammonium nitrogen. Don't overdo Mg or you'll lock up other nutrients.
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Magnesium toxicity is rare and not generally exhibited visibly. Extreme high levels will antagonize other ions in the nutrient solution.
 
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