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Dr.Pecker

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I would definitely disagree...
IMHO I believe that 1 plant per tub/bucket is best, it prevents root tangle and makes reservoir changes a bit easier.... As for "not disturbing the bubbles", Do you even know what you're talking about? It is actually surface agitation that adds dissolved oxygen to your water, not air bubbles.... Do you think that those bubbles somehow "pop" under water and replenish the oxygen? And if that is the case, how come none of the streams or rivers I've seen with plants growing out of them have air stones? (I've checked!) Also, I have found that tightly wrapping your reservoir with IR blocker insulation will dramatically stabilize the temperature, used in conjunction with a frozen bottle of water and your temps should be below par!

Stick to soil Doc! Unwashed clay pellets will RAISE YOUR PH and EC! The residue is clay powder, RINSE thoroughly with WATER no soap.

@bl4ze:20
Not to be a downer, but you should really read up a bit more. It seems to me, you're jumping in head first and don't have the slightest clue how to swim....Also, you shouldn't take swimming lessons from someone who can't swim.
Its apparent you dont understand what im talking about.
 

Dr.Pecker

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I will explain this again dont put a frozen bottle in the dwc bucket because it passes over the airstone and blocks the bubbles. You want the bubbles to pop and splash water on the hydroton. I never said to use soap on hydroton dont use soap.
 

bl4ze:20

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heres what im working with. the seeds are inside the plugs and soon they will pop and i will begin this crazy adventure.IMAG0530.jpg
 

bl4ze:20

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I tried that and honestly I prefer jiffy pops
i almost bought jiffy pellets but rockwool plugs are cheap and u get a LOT of them and according to alot of sources they are efficient. i have heard alot of good things about jiffy pellets and i will definitely be trying them in the futures. i hope this hydro grow works out it seems like something i could get into.
 

bl4ze:20

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i figured since this is my first go i will use cheap feminized seeds not jump straight into the expensive jack herer seeds i bought so i stuck with the ak-49 that i mass purchased a while back while they were on sale. i have had little to no luck cloning but my mentor is coming by in 8 weeks to teach me on my next set of mothers and daughters and harvest plants. basically i think i fucked up somewhere along the line but oh well live and learn i tend to overthink things and do things my own way and it tends to bite me in the ass. im having a problem with temps in my flower tent right now i think the duct is getting bad its rather old so i'll be switching next week when i have the money to upgrade to vinyl.
 

bl4ze:20

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it just started happening recently. i had 79 degrees Fahrenheit at all times then suddenly monday night it was 89 n there and its been 80s ever since so im keeping the tent open to keep it down as much as possible but i cant figure out the problem its never done this before i duct taped it up alot to try and seal up some places it was leaking air and no luck even tho i cant find anymore leaky spots it still hasnt went back down like it was doing so i guess i will have to change it out but its for the better, the vinyl ducting i inspected at a hardware store today looks very promising .. i will post pictures when i change the duct out.
 

bl4ze:20

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yea i already ordered another 16 lbs of hydroton i cant get it from my grow shop anymore they carry some ghetto generic shit. it should be here today or tomorrow..
 

AlphaPhase

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I tried to read the whole thread, so hopefully I answer some of your questions.

I've never germinated seeds in Rockwool but I know that it works fine, I have used the wet paper towel method to germinate and the when it sprouts a little tail I've put them in the Rockwool. Should germinate and work fine either way though.

You want to top feed the sprouts by pouring water around the hydroton until the roots start growing out of the net pot and into the water. Try not to soak the Rockwool too much because they hold lots of water and can rot the sprout. Pour water around the rock wool and maybe mist the rock wool a few times with a spray bottle to keep it from drying out and to keep it just moist enough. You want the water barely touching the net pot at first, but once the roots get long enough you can lower the water. You want lots of bubbles, 1watt or more per gallon of water for your air pump.

As Dr p said, the water bottle method to cool temps is a good idea, it's best to keep temps below 70 or root rot can occur.

You want to fill the netpot to the top so it's level with the top of the lid, not 100% necessary, you can have a little space if you want, just make sure all holes are covered to avoid light shining into the res water and roots ect.
 

AlphaPhase

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Wash your hydroton throughly with only water, do not bleach them or use cleaners ever, unless it's a flushing product that dissolves salts. I wash them in a bucket that has holes drilled in the bottom and I just put fill the bucket up with hydroton and let the water in the sink run through for a while
 

bl4ze:20

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yep. done and done. appreciate the advice i was just makin sure i was off to a good start. thanks guy :mrgreen:
 

FrozenChozen

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@Dr.Pecker I never meant to offend you, propagating misinformation seems to be a daily thing here on RIU, and it bothers me. I take what's written for its face value, no one knows what the hell you meant, only what you type. You say put a frozen water bottle in your reservoir, to me that means drop that mofucker right in there, roots, air stones, nutrients and all.... That alone could shock your plant enough that root capillaries actually close off entirely and your plant will stop feeding, possibly for days..... You say wash your hydroton, where I come from we wash with soap....
dont put a frozen bottle in the dwc bucket because it passes over the airstone and blocks the bubbles. You want the bubbles to pop and splash water on the hydroton.
How does a floating round bottle block your bubbles? Are they magic bubbles that don't know how to travel the path of least resistance? Does any floating object prevent bubbles from popping?
Don't put the net pot in the water.
Again, a misinformed statement.... You can put the bottom of the net pot in the water as long as you are providing enough dissolved oxygen. Most people believe you should put the net pot in the water because, get this, THEY FLOAT! That means if your pots/hydroton/plant isn't heavy enough the net pot will float up a little and knock itself out of the reservoir.
@bl4ze:20 Good luck to you. Don't limit yourself to only asking questions in your thread.... Get out there and start scoping out others doing DWC and ASK MANY QUESTIONS!
 

bl4ze:20

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@Dr.Pecker I never meant to offend you, propagating misinformation seems to be a daily thing here on RIU, and it bothers me. I take what's written for its face value, no one knows what the hell you meant, only what you type. You say put a frozen water bottle in your reservoir, to me that means drop that mofucker right in there, roots, air stones, nutrients and all.... That alone could shock your plant enough that root capillaries actually close off entirely and your plant will stop feeding, possibly for days..... You say wash your hydroton, where I come from we wash with soap....

How does a floating round bottle block your bubbles? Are they magic bubbles that don't know how to travel the path of least resistance? Does any floating object prevent bubbles from popping?

Again, a misinformed statement.... You can put the bottom of the net pot in the water as long as you are providing enough dissolved oxygen. Most people believe you should put the net pot in the water because, get this, THEY FLOAT! That means if your pots/hydroton/plant isn't heavy enough the net pot will float up a little and knock itself out of the reservoir.
@bl4ze:20 Good luck to you. Don't limit yourself to only asking questions in your thread.... Get out there and start scoping out others doing DWC and ASK MANY QUESTIONS!

thanks brotha! im just tryna learn thats all!

i found a pretty big tub at a hardware store that would fit the buckets in the bottom of my tent so i could contain temps i think i will go that route to add frozen bottles..
 

Dr.Pecker

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thanks brotha! im just tryna learn thats all!

i found a pretty big tub at a hardware store that would fit the buckets in the bottom of my tent so i could contain temps i think i will go that route to add frozen bottles..
That's what I'm talking about.
 

Dr.Pecker

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@Dr.Pecker I never meant to offend you, propagating misinformation seems to be a daily thing here on RIU, and it bothers me. I take what's written for its face value, no one knows what the hell you meant, only what you type. You say put a frozen water bottle in your reservoir, to me that means drop that mofucker right in there, roots, air stones, nutrients and all.... That alone could shock your plant enough that root capillaries actually close off entirely and your plant will stop feeding, possibly for days..... You say wash your hydroton, where I come from we wash with soap....

How does a floating round bottle block your bubbles? Are they magic bubbles that don't know how to travel the path of least resistance? Does any floating object prevent bubbles from popping?

Again, a misinformed statement.... You can put the bottom of the net pot in the water as long as you are providing enough dissolved oxygen. Most people believe you should put the net pot in the water because, get this, THEY FLOAT! That means if your pots/hydroton/plant isn't heavy enough the net pot will float up a little and knock itself out of the reservoir.
@bl4ze:20 Good luck to you. Don't limit yourself to only asking questions in your thread.... Get out there and start scoping out others doing DWC and ASK MANY QUESTIONS!
Just because you cant read doesn't mean the op can't buddy.
 
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