help my white widows

The leaves on the ends are burnt and crusty.
Miracle grow soil
Led lights no heat put out 600w

18/6 hour cycle
Watered around a week ago

Using solitabs since seedling as used from nirvana has good reviews. i havent added anything since i put them in since its saposed to be auto fertalizer i have flower tabs for
once i hit 12/12

Only recently like the last week or so its been getting bad she was perfect before this
im wondering if it could be something in the water this time?

she is 1 month old since sprout
my first time grow any help would be greatly appreciated


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Dj1209

Well-Known Member
I don't know how familiar you are with miracle grow soil but it sucks basically its know to burn baby seedlings its just to strong.
 
yeah im familiar but its been fine with it up till a week ago
also had to get mircale grow all we have around here in the winter for sale or i wouldnt get it =D
 

Ganjasism

Active Member
u need to buy and mix perlite in thatttt
Perlite is pH neutral. This problem is either a deficiency, or a toxicity of nutrients. Not that the nutes aren't there, it's just that they are taking up too much of some, or not enough of others. Macro/Micro nutes. pH will determine this. If I'm not mistaken MG potting soil has some Perlite in it already. It does help in situations where people are prone to overwater though.

Doesn't look like Nitrogen burn from the MG, there are no curling of the leaves.
 

Ganjasism

Active Member
Once inside the plant, some nutrients can be mobilized to support new growing tissues, while others are fixed, or immobile in older plant tissues. This fact helps us to diagnose some plant nutrient deficiencies. For example, if a plant is deficient in an immobile nutrient, then deficiency symptoms (yellowing/chlorosis) occurs in the new growth, since the older leaves/tissues "hold" on to the immobile nutrients. In contrast, deficiencies of mobile nutrients typically occur in the older leaves (like yours is doing), since the mobile nutrients move from the old leaves to the new leaves.

MOBILE: Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium, Magnesium, and Sulfur.
IMMOBILE: Calcium, Iron, Manganese, Zinc, Copper, Boron, and Molybdenum.

I said all of that to say this....Check your nutes and see if they contain Micronutrients such as Calcium and Magnesium. If your nutrients contain Calcium and Magnesium then your pH will probably have been too low at some point since these nutes are taken up at a higher pH level. Most people equate "pale" green leaves with low nitrogen, but it is most likely a Magnesium defficiency. If raising your pH slightly doesn't help (after checking your nute content), then flush with neutral water and get some epsom salts in there.

Also, how much runoff do you have when you water? Could be a build up of salts in your soil. A good flush will help this. Also, do not OVER water your plant(which it sounds like you are not). A whole week without watering is probably a little too long in between though. In soil it will take some time to fix your problem, since it took some time to get it. Be patient and she'll pull through.

Since you are using MG (which typically contains plenty of Nitrogen, which is available at a wider range of pH levels), I would be willing to bet (as long as you have good drainage, to rule out some sort of root rot) that what you are seeing is a Magnesium deficiency.

And if you do not have good drainage then you could not only have a Magnesium deficency, but you could also be getting root rot. What you need to do in that case is mix some hydrogen peroxide in just water (about a tblsp per gallon of water) to kill the rot. Like I say, if drainage is good then you definitely need some Magnesium in there. Good luck.
 

Ganjasism

Active Member
looks like nute burn to me.
I have a tendency to think Nitrogen is too high right out of the gate. But looking at the plant, the new growth seems fine; just a little pale, but not burnt. The old growth is withering/yellowing; which leads me to believe it is a mobile nutrient deficiency. Probably not Nitrogen since he's using MG soil plus some sort of soiltab. I would be willing to bet that his nutes don't have CAL/MAG in em. Just a hunch though. I'm also leaning away from rootrot since the plant doesn't look droopy at all, just the yellowing/chlorosis issue.
 
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