help needed asap with ph

youngg said:

I left the v shape tacking leaves she's been doing her own things I've just been waiting for her to get light then feed her

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Where did you get the idea to flush? Or that 750ppm runoff is bad, and you needed to flush it down to 50ppm and re-add nutrients? The plant needs those nutrients represented in 750ppm. It's not healthy for the soil biology to flush it away.

But, you're right, it's my fault for not telling you (for the 10th time) to chill.

Also, I saw in one post: "what you think az2000". That's not tagging. To notify someone you have to put "@" in front. You may have been tagging me without me seeing it. (Not sure what I was missing. But, I don't think it would have mattered. I saw idle hands preparing for something.).

I would feed, stop flushing and doing weird things. Ask questions before doing anything (if you would have asked before the transplant, you would have saved yourself some frustration waiting for the plant to grow into the container.).

If you want to know the soil pH, perform the NCSU Pour-Through Method (google for it). It's marginally reliable compared to casually measuring runoff pH. (A Control Wizard Accurate 8 soil probe would be a good investment for you, since you like to be "involved" so much. It also aerates the soil, which is good.).

Going to invest in a soil probe and I'm after doing some test on other plants any of you used greenhouseseedco powder feedings and is it any good with soil

Why are you feeding @ 5.8 ph for soil? Or is that coco? Looks like the finer stuff if it is.

I know what your saying it should be around 6.2 but because the nutes mainly for 5.8 and then grow method I'm following used 5.8 ph with these nutes in soil I'm just trying my best to follow and understand

youngg said:

I know what your saying it should be around 6.2 but because the nutes mainly for 5.8 and then grow method I'm following used 5.8 ph with these nutes in soil I'm just trying my best to follow and understand

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Can anyone understand wtf he is saying here?
I done read it twice now...

youngg said:

then grow method I'm following used 5.8 ph with these nutes in soil I'm just trying my best to follow and understand

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I think that's the first time I've heard you're following a grow method. It's confusing with all the threads. A single one so people can find all the relevant info would be good.

Soil is usually 6.5. You shouldn't have to ph your nutrients because soil will buffer itself against the nutes. Soil pH rises and falls as it dries.

As I said in your other thread, you're following too many things you find on youtube, internet searches... and then blaming us that we're not helping you make stuff work. Wouldn't it be better to follow us? (This is why I gave up.).

az2000 said:

I think that's the first time I've heard you're following a grow method. It's confusing with all the threads. A single one so people can find all the relevant info would be good.

Soil is usually 6.5. You shouldn't have to ph your nutrients because soil will buffer itself against the nutes. Soil pH rises and falls as it dries.

As I said in your other thread, you're following too many things you find on youtube, internet searches... and then blaming us that we're not helping you make stuff work. Wouldn't it be better to follow us? (This is why I gave up.).

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When did I blame anyone for not helping me

youngg said:

When did I blame anyone for not helping me

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A few posts above you blamed me for flushing (because I wouldn't stop you). It's just my impression you aren't listening to what people are saying because you're finding things on youtube, and making that your "method." Then you're frustrated it doesn't work. Mutliple threads later.... You're flushing to get rid of ppms in the soil which weren't a problem....

What I was saying is that it seems you put more stock in what you see on youtube. You're making it hard for us to help you. You're making a choice which implies we're the problem. You're seeing a video and it should work that way. You're pitting us against a video we're not privy to -- us saving you from it when you don't think you need to be.

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az2000 said:

A few posts above you blamed me for flushing (because I wouldn't stop you). It's just my impression you aren't listening to what people are saying because you're finding things on youtube, and making that your "method." Then you're frustrated it doesn't work. Mutliple threads later.... You're flushing for to get rid of ppms in the soil which weren't a problem....

What I was saying is that it seems you put more stock in what you see on youtube. You're making it hard for us to help you. You're making a choice which implies we're the problem. You're seeing a video and it should work that way. You're pitting us against a video we're not privy to, saving you from it when you don't think you need to be saved from it.

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Please copy and paste or snapshot a pic because I know I didn't blame you I flushed and blamed nobody I was seeing if anybody can help up the ph why would I blame any of you if it's my mistake or even if following a method but never blamed anyone here I don't blame the guys method it's obviously from potting in to big of pot with not enough perlite but yet again I'll say it its my fault so if anyone thinks I'm blaming them but I'm sorry but I really am not

The hardest thing for a new grower to learn is, to walk away.
most noobs tend to "over" care for there plants, this sounds like you buddy.
walk away, let it grow. and try to let it dry out between waterings.
I'm sorry but after following this thread, I see you watering it hourly.

youngg said:

Please copy and paste or snapshot a pic because I know I didn't blame you

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It's the post earlier in this thread, which I already referred to. I asked who told you to flush, you didn't answer, but said it was because I didn't reply to your not sitting on your hands (as you'd been urged to do by multiple people.). I felt like you were trying to make me co-dependent. ("Stop me before I kill my plants. It's your fault if I do something people have told me not to do." And that's exactly how it turned out.).

I'm just jaded because I saw *multiple* pages in your other thread encouraging you to step back and stop following everything you find on the internet. Suddenly, a new thread with ASAP needs, no explanation why you thought 750 ppm runoff is a problem. Just admit it, you needed to do something. Nothing more than that. You had idle hands and didn't want to be told "no."

Listen to az and oldtimer mate. Water @ ph 7. Don't flush soil. Don't over water. Don't over fert and you should be all good.

Water it and walk away for 2 days. The less time you spend fucking shit up, the better off the plant will be. I mean this generally, not you personally. Human beings are clumsy and imprecise. Nature has fine tuned its technique for billions of years as far as we know. Let it do its thang bro

outlier said:

Listen to az and oldtimer mate.

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He should listen to you and OT. I'm exasperated. We went through all this before. I'm pretty sure this is going to turn into a dozen cartoon-labeled bottles and "why isn't it working?" (after two months of people saying "no.").

It's human nature to want to feel like the plant's condition is a result of the grower's skill, care, natural ability. I have my own superstitious things I do. But, young has an overdose of that.

I apologize if I've been mean. I don't want to discourage him. But, if this were in the original thread, you'd see.

az2000 said:

He should listen to you and OT. I'm exasperated. We went through all this before. I'm pretty sure this is going to turn into a dozen cartoon-labeled bottles and "why isn't it working?" (after two months of people saying "no.").

It's human nature to want to feel like the plant's condition is a result of the grower's skill, care, natural ability. I have my own superstitious things I do. But, young has an overdose of that.

I apologize if I've been mean. I don't want to discourage him. But, if this were in the original thread, you'd see.

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You do an awesome job around here mate. Must be tiring though, same shit different day!

justanoldtimer said:

The hardest thing for a new grower to learn is, to walk away.
most noobs tend to "over" care for there plants, this sounds like you buddy.
walk away, let it grow. and try to let it dry out between waterings.
I'm sorry but after following this thread, I see you watering it hourly.

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Watering hourly the last day she got watered was 6 days before I watered yesterday the top of soil was dry buy only just over an inch deep and the pot was very light

youngg said:

Watering hourly the last day she got watered was 6 days before I watered yesterday the top of soil was dry buy only just over an inch deep and the pot was very light

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And a couple of leaves where turned down not at the end of the leaves like over watering though more halfway down like underwatering when I feed her her leaves propped up more

It's a weed, not an orchid. When you don't know what's going wrong, more often than not the best thing to do is nothing at all. Get out of the way and let it grow, dude.

What kind of soil are you using, though?