Help needed Dwc roots have stopped growing

futurebanjo

futurebanjo

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Budman1487 said:
Ok will change them over does that help then with black ones ?
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For sure... it's not a golden goose, but black lines remove a potential problem, you don't want any light ever getting into your liquid, aside from when you have to do maintenence, and its unavoidable. It's asking to get unwanted bacterial growth, etc. Trust me I learned the hard way!

Hoses are cheap - I don't know why anyone sells any hyro products with clear lines, they should be thrown in jail, lol!

EDIT I'm using this stuff, its designed for automotive/cars but it's cheap and works well... just make sure to choose the correct size for a tight fit.
 
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futurebanjo

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Greengrouch said:
.7ec is probably the problem, do a res change and double it.

or half it, I’m fucking up my own shit so probably don’t listen to me :wall: bongsmilie
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WTF lol ? you dont want to be upping your nutes when the plants are so small, sick and no decent sun leafs...
 
Greengrouch

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futurebanjo said:
WTF lol ? you dont want to be upping your nutes when the plants are so small, sick and no decent sun leafs...
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I’ve never fed mine below .6 save for like the first week, but thats not much actual fertilizer in mine, I buffer my water with k sil, micronized gypsum and boron before I add my feed.
 
Greengrouch

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One thing I will suggest is swap the peroxide for plain bleach, 0.25ml bleach per gallon of water, add it back every 3 days. Roots stay nice.
 
futurebanjo

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Greengrouch said:
I’ve never fed mine below .6 save for like the first week, but thats not much actual fertilizer in mine, I buffer my water with k sil, micronized gypsum and boron before I add my feed.
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I'm currently running mine at about 0.8 -1.0 EC, but they are way into veg now... you dont wanna go too hot with the ferts in DWC. For a tiny/sick plant, I would suggest thats way too much fert, but that's just my observations.. I'm a noob with DWC.
 
futurebanjo

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Greengrouch said:
No it’s not lmao, plain bleach is sodium hypochlorite very different chemical
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I've just actually looked it up, and it seems "bleach" is an 'umbrella' term that can cover several types of chemicals.
Hydrogen peroxide is favored as it doesn't produce chlorine gas, and it breaks down in water into oxygen (good) and hydrogen (inert, in the volumes we are talking about.) Both of which are part of water, hydrogen and oxygen.
 
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futurebanjo said:
I've just actually looked it up, and it seems "bleach" is an 'umbrella' term that can cover several types of chemicals.
Hydrogen peroxide is favored as it doesn't produce chlorine gas, and it breaks down in water into oxygen (good) and hydrogen (inert, in the volumes we are talking about.) Both of which are part of water, hydrogen and oxygen.
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If you go to a store to buy bleach (like Clorox) it’s sodium hypochlorite. The amount used is so minimal that there is no chlorine gas. It’s also an essential micronutrient used buy plants. Some people use pool shock (calcium hypochlorite) because they see sodium and think it’s a problem, but at less than 1ppm it’s not.
 
Greengrouch

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That %3 peroxide breaks down real fast and needs regular redosing. The bleach if you’re changing your res once a week you only need to redose once in the middle. No biofilm, no algae no pythium, just bright white roots
 
futurebanjo

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Very intereting point.. I use a product called silver bullet, which is essentialy hydrogen preoxide, but also contains sliver, which keeps it stable in the solution for far longer without affecting anything, so far it's working out well...so far, lol!
 
Greengrouch

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futurebanjo said:
Very intereting point.. I use a product called silver bullet, which is essentialy hydrogen preoxide, but also contains sliver, which keeps it stable in the solution for far longer without affecting anything, so far it's working out well...so far, lol!
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Silver causes ethylene production triggering intersex presentiation. It’s also toxic to humans, I wouldn’t suggest using that for any consumable plants.
 
futurebanjo

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For sure, flouride and chlorine is used in the tap water sysem here in the UK to prevent bacterial growth in the pipes between the the processing plants and when it comes out of your tap. but in very small amounts, reletivley speaking.
 
rkymtnman

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futurebanjo said:
For sure, flouride and chlorine is used in the tap water sysem here in the UK to prevent bacterial growth in the pipes between the the processing plants and when it comes out of your tap. but in very small amounts, reletivley speaking.
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most US muni water uses chloramine now. i think it's cheaper and lasts longer. i'm on well water so i don't have to worry about that stuff.
 
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