Help please, plants dying after two weeks into flower

BlazedAndConfused

BlazedAndConfused

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Have some plants that have been in flower two weeks. None of them has stretched, yellowed completely, curled leaves on new growth. Mind you these plants were perfectly healthy and green in the veg area. Could this simply be a terrible case of overwatering leading to root rot? Could I have shocked the root zone with cold water while also over saturating the medium after a transplant from 2 gallon hard pot to 3 gallon air pot? I'm out of guesses at this point. 8 of 12 are completely fucked and the other four are on their way. Have tried backing off nutes to just water, superthrive, adding nutes. Nothing is having any effect. Luckily I have 22 ladies ready to flip otherwise I would be fucked. Anyone have any ideas what this could be?



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chemphlegm

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whatever you changed from veg to flower is your culprit. whatever you put or didnt put in the pots changed your ph and your plants stopped eating because of it. its over for them, I'd kill them now to save the money and time, use it to start again.
you may have some luck taking cuttings from them if you need the genetics, otherwise, bunnies dont seem to care about fucked up plants thrown to the compost pile.

I water seedlings, clones, vegging plants and flowering ones too daily with ice cold pure spring water form my indoor garden well spigot for many years with no issues.
 
BlazedAndConfused

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chemphlegm said:
whatever you changed from veg to flower is your culprit. whatever you put or didnt put in the pots changed your ph and your plants stopped eating because of it. its over for them, I'd kill them now to save the money and time, use it to start again.
you may have some luck taking cuttings from them if you need the genetics, otherwise, bunnies dont seem to care about fucked up plants thrown to the compost pile.

I water seedlings, clones, vegging plants and flowering ones too daily with ice cold pure spring water form my indoor garden well spigot for many years with no issues.
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The ph swing wasn't the problem. I used my water from my flowering house which is 7.1 on my plants at veg that receive 7.8 normally and have seen no detrimental effect. Could it be from my water with nutrients being at about 6.2 that I feed at the start of flower what shocked them? I use just water and occasionally some dragonfly earth medicine for veg. I don't plan on keeping any of these plants I have some to replace them I just want to make sure I don't do it to this next batch. The only pictures I can find that look like this are from overwatering. I did put a 1/2 gallon on fresh transplants so I may have put too much and saturated soil that the roots couldn't reach?
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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dont ever saturate. water only when container feels light, top soil is dry. dont radically change anything except to 12/12 lighting.
I supply less nitrogen as flowering progresses, and less over all nutrients, more often plain water as they mature. I water about 1/4 of the volume of soil when they are dry. if you feed liquid nutrients follow the instructions on the bottle for best results concernig schedules, ph, amounts, plain water etc.
transplants should be dried plugs, tapped out of your cup and into a fresh divet of soil in a final container with more dry soil packed around it. watered normally without delay every thing already knows what to do.
 
BlazedAndConfused

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rickyrozayyy said:
What happened??? Temps? What type of light are you using? Nutes?
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I'm assuming overwatering. I can't think of any other reasons. My ph isn't off, my water isn't too cold. I use vegbloom dirty and shine that's about it. Light is 2 1000w hortilux. I've had tons of successful runs this was just pure destruction and I don't want to repeat it. Temps are 77 during day 65-68 at night. Humidity is low in my house right now like under 25% but I don't think that would produce these kinds of results
 
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Dr.Nick Riviera

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BlazedAndConfused said:
I'm assuming overwatering. I can't think of any other reasons. My ph isn't off, my water isn't too cold. I use vegbloom dirty and shine that's about it. Light is 2 1000w hortilux. I've had tons of successful runs this was just pure destruction and I don't want to repeat it. Temps are 77 during day 65-68 at night. Humidity is low in my house right now like under 25% but I don't think that would produce these kinds of results
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looks like broadmite damage
 
zabster151

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BlazedAndConfused said:
I'm assuming overwatering. I can't think of any other reasons. My ph isn't off, my water isn't too cold. I use vegbloom dirty and shine that's about it. Light is 2 1000w hortilux. I've had tons of successful runs this was just pure destruction and I don't want to repeat it. Temps are 77 during day 65-68 at night. Humidity is low in my house right now like under 25% but I don't think that would produce these kinds of results
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2 1000Watt bulbs :o:obongsmilie

Plants look burnt, dry, bad nuts & bad ph with poor pruning:fire:
 
OldMedUser

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Serious signs of micronutrient deficiencies brought on by too high a pH. That's about the only thing that fits the symptoms. Sulfur deficiency making those leaves yellow in from the sides like that. Or super heavy overfeeding can do shit like that too. More than sulfur is involved but shows quicker than some. Soaking down with low pH, 5, water may help get the overall pH down.

Looking bad and maybe too far gone but check out the charts and maybe you can come up with something.

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lio lacidem

lio lacidem

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Looks like you locked out all your micronutes do to high ph. Also when you have an issue you shouldnt try everything like you stated you did, without knowing whats wrong doing this can mess your planr up worse.
 
BlazedAndConfused

BlazedAndConfused

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Dr.Nick Riviera said:
looks like broadmite damage
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Plants have no bugs/mildew.
OldMedUser said:
Serious signs of micronutrient deficiencies brought on by too high a pH. That's about the only thing that fits the symptoms. Sulfur deficiency making those leaves yellow in from the sides like that. Or super heavy overfeeding can do shit like that too. More than sulfur is involved but shows quicker than some. Soaking down with low pH, 5, water may help get the overall pH down.

Looking bad and maybe too far gone but check out the charts and maybe you can come up with something
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The plants were completely fine getting 7.8 ph plain water in veg for well over a month. Showed no deficiency. I added a picture below of them in veg. They were also okay with getting 7.1 ph plain water from my flowering house as I brought some over and tried on two plants. My only thought is a jump from 7.8 in the veg to 6.2 with my nutrient water in flower. This is the first time I've brought plants from the separate house on different water and before I didn't have any problems going from plain water to feed. I can only think that I literally drowned them causing them to completely shut down and not recover. I am scared to transplant the other 22 I have because I don't know if they will just do the same thing.
 

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BlazedAndConfused

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zabster151 said:
2 1000Watt bulbs :o:obongsmilie

Plants look burnt, dry, bad nuts & bad ph with poor pruning:fire:
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I've ran 2 1000w in the area for over three years. Plants are poorly pruned? I have low ceilings and can only grow them to about 30" before flip. Only pruning I did was taking off the bottoms. Which none of my other crop in veg have responded poorly to. PH swing may be the problem. That in combination with overwatering and I think they just went to shit
 
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Dr.Nick Riviera

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BlazedAndConfused said:
Plants have no bugs/mildew.

The plants were completely fine getting 7.8 ph plain water in veg for well over a month. Showed no deficiency. I added a picture below of them in veg. They were also okay with getting 7.1 ph plain water from my flowering house as I brought some over and tried on two plants. My only thought is a jump from 7.8 in the veg to 6.2 with my nutrient water in flower. This is the first time I've brought plants from the separate house on different water and before I didn't have any problems going from plain water to feed. I can only think that I literally drowned them causing them to completely shut down and
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you can't see broadmites without a 60x scope,FYI
 
BlazedAndConfused

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Dr.Nick Riviera said:
you can't see broadmites without a 60x scope,FYI
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Lmfao so broad mites got on my plants when I flipped them to my flower and they completely destroyed the plant causing deficiencies and plant death in under 2 weeks. You're right I should really be checking for those broad mites. Get over yourself.
 
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Dr.Nick Riviera

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BlazedAndConfused said:
Lmfao so broad mites got on my plants when I flipped them to my flower and they completely destroyed the plant causing deficiencies and plant death in under 2 weeks. You're right I should really be checking for those broad mites. Get over yourself.
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get over myself? Dumbass, i'm trying to help you, and yes, Broadmites can and will do exactly what you said. But you seem to know so much, either the broadmites destroyed your plants, or you did. just look at your plants,LMFAO
 
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Dr.Nick Riviera

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Broad mites lay eggs on the underside of leaves and dwell there and in crevices around the plant. They prefer feeding on newer leaves, and their toxic saliva causes malformation and stunts the growth of young plants. The effects can resemble a nutrient deficiency or pH imbalance, so always keep a microscope handy to check for these pests before changing anything else.
http://hightimes.com/grow/grow-hack-beware-of-the-broad-mite/


read up fuckin idiot!!
 
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