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Theman97

Theman97

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Okay this is my first year growing and i have a big problem. The person im growing with had some exp under his belt but never had this problem. First off we had to make a homemade greenhouse to cover the smell and after that thing started to go really bad. The leaves on the plant was brown at the bottom before we put the green house up it was only a couple no big deal when we put the greenhouse up the TEMP in the room was going over 110F. Then only the new leaves were dying leaves that were only 3 days old and now the plants started to bud which is normal so the mini bud and and 1-3 day old leaves started to turn brown and i don't know if its heat stress or from bugs making it do this. I see black bud with white spots on them coming out of the 1-3 day old leaves and buds i also have seen orange/brown bugs to.HELP i don't know if it's heat stress or the bugs or both.
The pictures i have are the healthy ones turning brown now i can take more pictures if needed. This is a outdoor grow. Only one plants is this bad i got 3 other to stay under my medical limit.One of the pictures you can see a bug in a leafe. PLE HELP ME FIX THIS
 

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The problem is going from bottom to top. All the very tops are doing really good and the brown buds/leaves the white hairs next to them are going brown or have brown tips :(
 
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Budzbuddha said:
Looks like you built a giant sweat box .... AirFlow ?

Bad heat stress
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Yea we had a lot of air flow but now we took the greenhouse down almost 2 weeks ago and it is still spreading from bottom to top. I put in 3 fans 1 house fan 1 big shop fan and a small swamp cooler. With all that air it still was getting over 110f could the bugs make it turn like that?
 
thewanderingjack

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Theman97 said:
Yea we had a lot of air flow but now we took the greenhouse down almost 2 weeks ago and it is still spreading from bottom to top. I put in 3 fans 1 house fan 1 big shop fan and a small swamp cooler. With all that air it still was getting over 110f could the bugs make it turn like that?
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Temps themselves aren't as important as the airflow... I mean yeah of course, and at that level sure... but it seems with all you're ventilation... well, the bugs are idk... never dealt much with pests other than mite and gnats... could be they're infesting the inside and killing he plant.. the curling in a lack of moisture... relative to heat... you maybe should have watered more and misted the veg... I mean I an cold and wet and no problems with mold or mildew except when I didn't have spacing and airflow in and around he plants. Maybe the bugs wouldn't have felt so at home either... but I'm just spit ballin...
 
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thewanderingjack said:
Temps themselves aren't as important as the airflow... I mean yeah of course, and at that level sure... but it seems with all you're ventilation... well, the bugs are idk... never dealt much with pests other than mite and gnats... could be they're infesting the inside and killing he plant.. the curling in a lack of moisture... relative to heat... you maybe should have watered more and misted the veg... I mean I an cold and wet and no problems with mold or mildew except when I didn't have spacing and airflow in and around he plants. Maybe the bugs wouldn't have felt so at home either... but I'm just spit ballin...
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The bugs you see in the pics are they gnats and what should i do water more often mist the plants i just wants this plant to bounce back or stop dying on me.
 
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the neem only helps early enough, and usually not a permanent solution if you have some reason for the infestation. yeah it's hard to tell what's what in pics sometimes... that leaf curl is pretty bad.. but yeah the gnats are your main problems... you could go extreme.. Mosquito Dunks or, well... I got a crazy idea of un-potting, letting the ball dry out, then spraying it with mosquito dunk water all around, water with it too... and see... or just choppity chop... if a few plants are real bad and the rest can still be saved... the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few ;-)
 
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thewanderingjack said:
the neem only helps early enough, and usually not a permanent solution if you have some reason for the infestation. yeah it's hard to tell what's what in pics sometimes... that leaf curl is pretty bad.. but yeah the gnats are your main problems... you could go extreme.. Mosquito Dunks or, well... I got a crazy idea of un-potting, letting the ball dry out, then spraying it with mosquito dunk water all around, water with it too... and see... or just choppity chop... if a few plants are real bad and the rest can still be saved... the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few ;-)
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Thanks for all the help do you think hydrogen peroxide will help if i mix it with water then water the plant to kill the larvae.The link you sent said it will work but have you tried that or heard someone try it can it kill my roots.
 
Indacouch

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It's a really bad situation when your newly forming buds are coming out destroyed ......IMO at this stage where your buds are being so quickly destroyed and the plants are so unhealthy it will be very hard to get them to bounce back and it's guna greatly affect yeild ......if the plants were still in veg you would have a better chance at getting them to recover .....but once the budding stage has started it's very hard to fix a problem as bad as the ones your having due to the changes in the plant itself in flowering ......I don't wana say it's a lost cause because I know how painful that is but I'd honestly be suprised if you could fix the problem and get any kind of decent meds of the plants if at all .......sorry for your luck. But I hope you have better luck soon.
 
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H2o2 is awesome... used sparingly. a little in your water adds Oxygen and promotes root and soil health. Too much, it kills everything down there (it is an "antibiotic" after all) and then your plants dead anyways UNLESS you have some fermented compost tea... to bring back the bacteria... but that's a bit hit or miss... seen it work when people did over use a bit... don't know if it could get a solid flora down there from practically scratch fast enough.

http://www.quickgrow.com/gardening_articles/hydrogen_peroxide_horticulture.html

ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW :)
 
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thewanderingjack said:
H2o2 is awesome... used sparingly. a little in your water adds Oxygen and promotes root and soil health. Too much, it kills everything down there (it is an "antibiotic" after all) and then your plants dead anyways UNLESS you have some fermented compost tea... to bring back the bacteria... but that's a bit hit or miss... seen it work when people did over use a bit... don't know if it could get a solid flora down there from practically scratch fast enough.

http://www.quickgrow.com/gardening_articles/hydrogen_peroxide_horticulture.html

ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW :)
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Thanks man you been so much help
 
thewanderingjack

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sure man, people help me... I hope you the best... I'm in a somewhat similar spot... lots of likelihood of bud rot, and that would kill my whole thing... so far so good :)

general disclaimer... I talk from my experience and other info that I've found and looked into that makes sense to me, your mileage may vary... I will also give you advice to do something you want to do even If I think it's a bad idea, though I'll let you know, I am not purposefully trying misleading or anything.
 
rob333

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Theman97 said:
Okay this is my first year growing and i have a big problem. The person im growing with had some exp under his belt but never had this problem. First off we had to make a homemade greenhouse to cover the smell and after that thing started to go really bad. The leaves on the plant was brown at the bottom before we put the green house up it was only a couple no big deal when we put the greenhouse up the TEMP in the room was going over 110F. Then only the new leaves were dying leaves that were only 3 days old and now the plants started to bud which is normal so the mini bud and and 1-3 day old leaves started to turn brown and i don't know if its heat stress or from bugs making it do this. I see black bud with white spots on them coming out of the 1-3 day old leaves and buds i also have seen orange/brown bugs to.HELP i don't know if it's heat stress or the bugs or both.
The pictures i have are the healthy ones turning brown now i can take more pictures if needed. This is a outdoor grow. Only one plants is this bad i got 3 other to stay under my medical limit.One of the pictures you can see a bug in a leafe. PLE HELP ME FIX THIS
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ill tell u one trick and u will never look back get some chilli about 6-8 hot chillies a head of garlic 2 limes and some water boil all the chillies garlic and limes for about an hour to 2 on a low simmer then strain mix with 500ml of water 50 ml of olive oil and 30 ml of dish soap spray ya girls with it once or twice a week till pests are gone will work like a charm and no heavy chemicals
 
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rob333 said:
ill tell u one trick and u will never look back get some chilli about 6-8 hot chillies a head of garlic 2 limes and some water boil all the chillies garlic and limes for about an hour to 2 on a low simmer then strain mix with 500ml of water 50 ml of olive oil and 30 ml of dish soap spray ya girls with it once or twice a week till pests are gone will work like a charm and no heavy chemicals
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K ill try that. when the season first start i mix water with veg oil almost killed my plant had to cut the main center branch off LOL veg oil is so not safe ill try this one 1 leaf
 
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Indacouch said:
It's a really bad situation when your newly forming buds are coming out destroyed ......IMO at this stage where your buds are being so quickly destroyed and the plants are so unhealthy it will be very hard to get them to bounce back and it's guna greatly affect yeild ......if the plants were still in veg you would have a better chance at getting them to recover .....but once the budding stage has started it's very hard to fix a problem as bad as the ones your having due to the changes in the plant itself in flowering ......I don't wana say it's a lost cause because I know how painful that is but I'd honestly be suprised if you could fix the problem and get any kind of decent meds of the plants if at all .......sorry for your luck. But I hope you have better luck soon.
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Not all the bud are bad but some are dying and still going to new buds how do i stop the spread
 
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