Help!this Baby cant stand on his own...

beastbub · Apr 22, 2014

looks like it's stretching too much? my lights are already pretty low...
anyone has any idea what caused it or how i can solve it??
also looks like the bottom root is outta surface? should i berry it in?? when i put it in soil i put pretty shallow....
Any help is appreaciated!!

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m3d1c1n3man · Apr 22, 2014

yea definitely put some soil around the base, and get more lights, plus a fan blowing on it will help strengthen the stem so it doesn't fall over.

urban1026835 · Apr 22, 2014

Really it will stand up on it's own but all the above mentioned ideas are good as well I use to cut a straw in half and then slice it so that you can place it around the stem a few days with a fan to strengthen it up.

GreatwhiteNorth · Apr 22, 2014

m3d1c1n3man said:
yea definitely put some soil around the base, and get more lights, plus a fan blowing on it will help strengthen the stem so it doesn't fall over.

Great advice.
You can also straighten out one end of a paper clip and form a loop in the other to make a sorta crutch.

m3d1c1n3man · Apr 22, 2014

yea you can do all that to help it stand up, but i'm pretty sure it only happens when there is not enough light anyways.

kmog33 · Apr 22, 2014

Yep

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beastbub · Apr 22, 2014

m3d1c1n3man said:
yea you can do all that to help it stand up, but i'm pretty sure it only happens when there is not enough light anyways.

Yea i found that it stands really straight when lights are on and then lean on the side when its off, i ll put some soil around the bottom!
Another question, it is an auto, so if i go 24/0 is there any downsides? Thx so much for reply

!!

beastbub · Apr 22, 2014

kmog33 said:
Yep

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Aha! that looks like working! I didnt wanna do it before i consult you experienced ones, the baby looks so fragile i dont wanna harm it by any means! I ll try to get more light on and strengthen the bottom if still doesnt work i ll try to tie it up!

beastbub · Apr 22, 2014

GreatwhiteNorth said:
Great advice.
You can also straighten out one end of a paper clip and form a loop in the other to make a sorta crutch.

Yea i ll try to get more light on and see if it gets up by itself!

kmog33 · Apr 22, 2014

beastbub said:
Aha! that looks like working! I didnt wanna do it before i consult you experienced ones, the baby looks so fragile i dont wanna harm it by any means! I ll try to get more light on and strengthen the bottom if still doesnt work i ll try to tie it up!

Be careful of course but sometimes they need help

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GrowinDad · Apr 22, 2014

i would tie up loosely and get a fan on it to strenghten. Then repot as high as you can.

beastbub · Apr 22, 2014

GrowinDad said:
i would tie up loosely and get a fan on it to strenghten. Then repot as high as you can.

repot do you mean transplant to another pot? Shouldnt i wait a bit longer for the roots to become stronger then transplant?

CannaCole · Apr 22, 2014

Seems like you're using florescent? Get it right up on it when you start... I got mine (95w t5) like 3-4 inches above and they never stretch like that.

It's not so much about more light just closer.

But to fix this I'd use a straw or top fill that pot with more base soil.

beastbub · Apr 22, 2014

CannaCole said:
Seems like you're using florescent? Get it right up on it when you start... I got mine (95w t5) like 3-4 inches above and they never stretch like that.

It's not so much about more light just closer.

But to fix this I'd use a straw or top fill that pot with more base soil.

Yea i already lowered it 3 times, might have to lower it one more time, i just fear the warmth of the bulbs would toast the seedlings... but getting lights hanging too high imo is definetly one reason they streached so bad for the light!
Thx for advise bro

beastbub · Apr 22, 2014

GrowinDad said:
i would tie up loosely and get a fan on it to strenghten. Then repot as high as you can.

How strong should the wind be? I am a little confused becuase it is already leaning toward sides if i get wind blowing at it doesnt that make it more easily to fall?

GreatwhiteNorth · Apr 22, 2014

beastbub said:
How strong should the wind be? I am a little confused becuase it is already leaning toward sides if i get wind blowing at it doesnt that make it more easily to fall?

You want it to sway gently - it will quickly harden & then support won't be necessary.

CannaCole · Apr 22, 2014

Counteract the lean with fan.

EverythingsHazy · Apr 22, 2014

Tbh I would just repot it with soil covering most of the stem leaving about an inche between the osil and cotyledons, and then put an oscillating fan on a low-med setting in your grow area so the plant shakes/sways a bit every few seconds. Also move it closer to the lights. All these will make it sturdier.

beastbub · Apr 22, 2014

EverythingsHazy said:
Tbh I would just repot it with soil covering most of the stem leaving about an inche between the osil and cotyledons, and then put an oscillating fan on a low-med setting in your grow area so the plant shakes/sways a bit every few seconds. Also move it closer to the lights. All these will make it sturdier.

i used some soil to fortify the base and covered up more in the soil, it's much better now, i dont have a fan, i ll go get one tomorrow morning tho

thx for all the help!!

redbeard420 · Apr 23, 2014

Dude for sure bury it in the soil a little deeper when u repot. I myself have had the tops grow way faster than the stem and fell over top heavy. I leave them how they lay. When it does start growing upwards again the stalk is thick and strong.

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