Help understanding BLux Vesta Series

grower.johndoe

grower.johndoe

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what's up guys

I've been searching on and trying to build a led fixture for a 2x4 grow I'm building and within that search I've came across the idea of building with some vesta series nighty8 [number nine not working here lol] CRI. It wouldn't be solely that led strip on the build, but I'm thinkin on those to help with flowering.
BXEB-TL-L0560Z-2750S2000-A-C3 Bridgelux | Optoelectronics | DigiKey

My problem understanding the vesta series is the tunning method. I mean... there are 2 different diodes that emmit, then, 2700k and 5000k, right? Or it would be the same [don't think so, but this will be my first build and I'm kinda newbie] diode emitting both color temps?

Thinking there are 2 different diodes... is there a way to mount them to use both at the same time if needed? Or I can only go either 2700k or 5000k, nor both?
Not sure if it would be worthy, but I've got my mind on that.

Not sure if I could make myself clear, but... thanks anyway, guys
 
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1212ham

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grower.johndoe said:
what's up guys

I've been searching on and trying to build a led fixture for a 2x4 grow I'm building and within that search I've came across the idea of building with some vesta series nighty8 [number nine not working here lol] CRI. It wouldn't be solely that led strip on the build, but I'm thinkin on those to help with flowering.
BXEB-TL-L0560Z-2750S2000-A-C3 Bridgelux | Optoelectronics | DigiKey

My problem understanding the vesta series is the tunning method. I mean... there are 2 different diodes that emmit, then, 2700k and 5000k, right? Or it would be the same [don't think so, but this will be my first build and I'm kinda newbie] diode emitting both color temps?

Thinking there are 2 different diodes... is there a way to mount them to use both at the same time if needed? Or I can only go either 2700k or 5000k, nor both?
Not sure if it would be worthy, but I've got my mind on that.

Not sure if I could make myself clear, but... thanks anyway, guys
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You can run the 2700k, 5000k or both. Rocket Soul isn't active here these days but posted a lot about Vesta strips.

 
dbz

dbz

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grower.johndoe said:
what's up guys

I've been searching on and trying to build a led fixture for a 2x4 grow I'm building and within that search I've came across the idea of building with some vesta series nighty8 [number nine not working here lol] CRI. It wouldn't be solely that led strip on the build, but I'm thinkin on those to help with flowering.
BXEB-TL-L0560Z-2750S2000-A-C3 Bridgelux | Optoelectronics | DigiKey

My problem understanding the vesta series is the tunning method. I mean... there are 2 different diodes that emmit, then, 2700k and 5000k, right? Or it would be the same [don't think so, but this will be my first build and I'm kinda newbie] diode emitting both color temps?

Thinking there are 2 different diodes... is there a way to mount them to use both at the same time if needed? Or I can only go either 2700k or 5000k, nor both?
Not sure if it would be worthy, but I've got my mind on that.

Not sure if I could make myself clear, but... thanks anyway, guys
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As said above you can go with both. Samsung recently dropped a horticultural module with lh351s (not osrams obv..was just looking at the VS ks series)and 301h that makes a build easy as well. These modules you can just connect with wagos and thermal tape/paste to a heatsink.
 
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Hooda Thunkit

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Also,I looked into it. It's actually quite a bit cheaper to buy the individual Thrive strips from Bridgelux (ie one strip in 2700k and one strip in 5000k), as opposed to buying one Vesta thrive strip (which has two rows of diodes, one in each spectrum).

In the US, with volume price breaks for a purchase of 10 strips, the Thrive strips come in at $13 each (so $26 for one each of the 2700 and 5000), but the Thrive Vesta strips are ~$33 apiece.
 
grower.johndoe

grower.johndoe

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1212ham said:
You can run the 2700k, 5000k or both. Rocket Soul isn't active here these days but posted a lot about Vesta strips.

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I would still have some questions. If running both (thing that if I decide to run I would deff appreciate some help with the diagram), it means it would go around 3700ish K, from what I've read in Rocket Soul topics/answers, right? And would also mean that, for example, if the 2700k channels are running 50w and the 5000k are also running 50w, I should expect 100w of the 3700ish K?

dbz said:
As said above you can go with both. Samsung recently dropped a horticultural module with osram 660s and 301h that makes a build easy as well. These modules you can just connect with wagos and thermal tape/paste to a heatsink.
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Hmm... do you have a link? I'll be googlin it anyway. Thanks, bro!



Hooda Thunkit said:
Also,I looked into it. It's actually quite a bit cheaper to buy the individual Thrive strips from Bridgelux (ie one strip in 2700k and one strip in 5000k), as opposed to buying one Vesta thrive strip (which has two rows of diodes, one in each spectrum).

In the US, with volume price breaks for a purchase of 10 strips, the Thrive strips come in at $13 each (so $26 for one each of the 2700 and 5000), but the Thrive Vesta strips are ~$33 apiece.
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I think I would rather build with individual strips. The thing is... I guess I wasn't looking right? I wasn't able to find anything to match 2700k (I'm more interested in this than the 5000k itself) and sized 2 feet or 1 feet (I'll light a 2x4 grow I'm building, so 4 feet I'm afraid it won't fit properly). I'll search for those Thrive strips you mentioned. Thanks!
 
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Hooda Thunkit

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Four foot strips are actually 44 inches long, and should fit no problem in a 4 foot space. For reference, the 2 footers are 22 inches and the 1 footers are (you guessed it) 11 inches.

I haven't seen the 2700k thrives anywhere, but digi has the 3000k. Weird thing about the Thrives is there is almost no difference (spectrally speaking) between the 3500k, 3000k and 2700k. I think 3000k Thrive will substitute just fine for the 2700k. Alternatively you could mix eb Gen 3 2700k 90cri strips with 5000k Thrives. Know you would prefer one strip over more than that, but it would be a good alternative.
 
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Hooda Thunkit

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I wish Bridgelux would release a strip with their 1750k 80cri diodes. I would mix one-one with 5700k Thrives and tune the spectrum however I wanted.

90% 1750k 10% 5700k is~2200k, or roughly hps spectrum.
 
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1212ham

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dbz said:
As said above you can go with both. Samsung recently dropped a horticultural module with osram 660s and 301h that makes a build easy as well. These modules you can just connect with wagos and thermal tape/paste to a heatsink.
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Osram diodes in a Samsung product? I'll believe that when I see it. Got a link or part number?
 
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