help what should i do

c3llblock

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LOL she don't want em in house Cuz of kid and her brother used are address and is running from cops he just ran 1300 miles away I'm gonna Cal PO Monday say he gone he left state no need to. Look here LOL her mean time if my mother will sign these damn caregiver form I'm good could take it to her house put on back porch
 
Dr Kynes

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As long as it's not raining, she can go on the porch, if you make a salt ring around the outside of the planter to stop more slugs from sliding in. If it's still raining, set her up in a closet, a corner of your bedroom, or anyplace she will be safe from the heat and humidity.
 
c3llblock

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Some1 said to lst her Cuz of space and cutting I had to do do I wanna do this and if so.how and what does PST do??
 
crazyhazey

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c3llblock said:
Some1 said to lst her Cuz of space and cutting I had to do do I wanna do this and if so.how and what does PST do??
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i would train her to grow sideways to keep all your tops the same distance away from light, that way energy equally is delivered to all sides of the plant. from now on im gonna train my plants to grow around their pots, this way i can get a shit ton of clones. dont forget to squeeze your stem till its flimsy though, and dont do this too much to avoid harming micro roots.

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c3llblock said:
Some1 said to lst her Cuz of space and cutting I had to do do I wanna do this and if so.how and what does PST do??
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LST is Low Stress Training. you dont trim prune, or cut the plant, you bend her limbs and branches into different shapes to get better exposure to light or make her grow in a confined space.

in everything else except cannabis we call this method Espallier. Its pretty much the only way to grow grapes for an easy harvest
you can make a soft stemmed plant like cannabis grow in any shape you like, they even do it with apple trees


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Dr Kynes

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c3llblock said:
Dr should I lst her or that to stressful right now
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the beauty of low stress training is it doesnt hurt the plant, it just moves the limbs gently to grow in a new direction
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be careful. only bend a limb as far as it is willing to go, and tie it in place with something soft, and stretchy, like a pipe cleaner bent into a hook shape. dont twist around the stem, make a good sized hook for the stem and pull it gently where you want it to grow. as it grows, keep guiding it in the direction you want, until you could even make it go in a circle around your pot, or grow up a trellis like a vine.

anything you tie around a limb will choke it off as the stem gets bigger. leave plenty of room for the stem to expand.
 
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crazyhazey said:
i would train her to grow sideways to keep all your tops the same distance away from light, that way energy equally is delivered to all sides of the plant. from now on im gonna train my plants to grow around their pots, this way i can get a shit ton of clones. dont forget to squeeze your stem till its flimsy though, and dont do this too much to avoid harming micro roots.

heres an lst
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is that fishin line?

i never squish my stems or anything like that. just a gentle pull to the desired location and soft restraint leads my tomatoes and grapes and whatnot to grow exactly where i want, so i can have my mint and other herbs living beneath them. anything that starts sticking out, gets a tuck, a roll, and eventually they all stay in place.

on plants with woody stems i pull and tie before the new growth gets firm, my cherry tree looks like a upside down umbrella! i walk in a circle around the tree's drip line with sisel twine, and cinch the limbs up into a column, and by the time they wood up they stay that way.
 
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a gentle hand an a firm plan is how we get grapes growing in straight neat lines like toy soldiers for hundreds of yards. if you guide the plant from it's smallest stages she will grow into any shape you like without ever snipping off a leaf.
 
crazyhazey

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Dr Kynes said:
is that fishin line?

i never squish my stems or anything like that. just a gentle pull to the desired location and soft restraint leads my tomatoes and grapes and whatnot to grow exactly where i want, so i can have my mint and other herbs living beneath them. anything that starts sticking out, gets a tuck, a roll, and eventually they all stay in place.

on plants with woody stems i pull and tie before the new growth gets firm, my cherry tree looks like a upside down umbrella! i walk in a circle around the tree's drip line with sisel twine, and cinch the limbs up into a column, and by the time they wood up they stay that way.
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haha yeah, i ran outta twist ties. and i started doing it after i broke a few stems, when i squeeze them a bit they're much flimsier and easy to bend. i was gonna try to train one to grow in a knot this season actually. and that sounds sweet, i found a tree that has 5 fingered leaves exactly like mj minus the buds so i may just plant those around as a cover, along with all my basils and tomatos, that way if a fan leaf wanders off i can just say it was the tree. i may try training a plant to grow over mint, garlic or marigolds, sounds like a good way to deter any mites. and that sounds sweet, i trained one to look like a regular umbrella and it turned out awesome, the highest bud did get a bit more weight but the outer edges still yielded well.
 
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herbaceous plants are way easier to train if you just use patience. even tomatoes with their delicate stems and heavy fruit loads will train onto a fence, trellis or wall if you just keep tucking, folding and bending.

even a mighty oak tree starts out as a wimpy sapling, and if youre gonna make a plant into a funky shape, patience, an appropriately sturdy support structure and an old T-shirt cut into strips for tying will make it happen. (just keep those knots LOOSE!)

have you considered just holding off on the water till they start to droop?
 
scroglodyte

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cannabis is native to highlands. moist, not wet, in the spring, and dry into summer and fall. check out the weather for the highlands of Afghanistan...........that's what cannabis likes.
no higher than 70-75%RH in veg, i say, and under 50%RH in flower.
 
lahadaextranjera

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scroglodyte said:
cannabis is native to highlands. moist, not wet, in the spring, and dry into summer and fall. check out the weather for the highlands of Afghanistan...........that's what cannabis likes.
no higher than 70-75%RH in veg, i say, and under 50%RH in flower.
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Thank you !!! ;)
 
crazyhazey

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Dr Kynes said:
even a mighty oak tree starts out as a wimpy sapling, and if youre gonna make a plant into a funky shape, patience, an appropriately sturdy support structure and an old T-shirt cut into strips for tying will make it happen. (just keep those knots LOOSE!)
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hmm may try that. fishing line doesnt dig into the stem but regular string did, thats probably the only reason i used it. and metal twist ties get rusty when you leave em outside, i think i might try zip ties soon, itd be easier to fasten them down.
 
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crazyhazey said:
hmm may try that. fishing line doesnt dig into the stem but regular string did, thats probably the only reason i used it. and metal twist ties get rusty when you leave em outside, i think i might try zip ties soon, itd be easier to fasten them down.
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A pipecleaner bent into a hook for the plant and twisted tight for the structure you're training the plant to will work good for herbaceous plants, but strips of t-shirt cloth are soft, flexible, expandable, and degrade over time. for training woody perennials thats the ticket, after a few months in the sun (UV light) zip ties just break, leaving plastic nibblets all around and sending any unsecured growth swinging free.
 
Corso312

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i use those green spools of wire they sell in the dollar stores..it is like a heavier duty garbage bag twist tie..
 
crazyhazey

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Dr Kynes said:
A pipecleaner bent into a hook for the plant and twisted tight for the structure you're training the plant to will work good for herbaceous plants, but strips of t-shirt cloth are soft, flexible, expandable, and degrade over time. for training woody perennials thats the ticket, after a few months in the sun (UV light) zip ties just break, leaving plastic nibblets all around and sending any unsecured growth swinging free.
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well you just saved me a shit ton of unneeded stress, thanks a ton. im gonna try that t shirt strip thing, i hope my fishing line holds up for now though.
 
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