Help with Aurora master pack by roots organics

ThorGanjason

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OK, so I picked up the master pack today and I'm wondering how a plant doesn't die from getting all of these nutrients, lol. A lot of the different bottles/packets say "can be used in conjunction with other feeding programs", and I'm sure that a lot of these things can be used in conjunction with other stuff, but I'm wanting to feed my non-experimental plants and so I don't want to put too much mojo in there. If anyone has experience with the master pack, feel free to chime in with tips and what not.

I picked up smart pots today so I was going to transplant. I just topped a couple so I've got to be really careful not to stress them too much. Anyways, to start off I'm going to use the Oregonism and sprinkle it on the roots. I'll probably go full strength with this since it helps good bacteria population. I was also gonna put in the uprising foundation and grow powders, and perhaps a little top coating with the elemental. Actually I might hold off on that one since the foundation has cal mag.

So since all of these seem to be soil preps, I should be fine going ahead and amending my dirt with them and transplanting, correct? Or should I not add them all at once?

After prepping the soil, I was thinking of feeding with the buddha grow mixed with the trinity formula. I go on a feed feed water schedule, and its time to feed two of my plants but not the other ones so I might Just give the other ones some of the mircrobial stuff, or hell I have no idea.

So yeah, I have no idea how to split this stuff up, which ones to use with which etc. I'm just definitely not wanting to burn my plants, so anyone with any experience with the roots organics line, please--HELP A CRACKA OUT!
 

ThorGanjason

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Also, my og kush is only a couple days old since coming up through the dirt. Obviously I'm not going to put it on the full regiment, but I am wanting to give it whatever I can. I'm running fox farms ocean forest but I haven't had any problems starting seedlings in it or feeding with it. I was gonna at least sprinkle the oregonism on the roots when I transplant it.
 

sohighifly

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Hey Thor this is the same Nutes and regimen that I am using. They are great and I wondered the same thing. I phoned Aurora
and the response that I got was the percentage ratios of the different Macro nutes is very minimal on some bottles. And also the Organic nutes are taken up differently by the plants. Are you using the Master Feeding Schedule as well?
 

ThorGanjason

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Not sure about the master feeding schedule, did it come with the pack? I didnt see it.

And thanks, I figured it would be safe to add some together. I'm probably gonna call the 800 number tomorrow, I have little index cards that I keep notes on for feeding schedule.. Figured I'd probably have to make an excel sheet for this master pack, lol
 

prosperian

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Start with 1/4 dose and work up so you don't burn the plants. I have had great success with the Roots Organics products and I have several bottles of Buddha Grow and Bloom on the shelf. They go unopened on this current grow because I ran Roots Organics bagged potting soil and have added nothing but water for six weeks. So much easier and no feeding schedule or extra expense, something to think about next time. Good luck man!
 

ThorGanjason

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Awesome, yeah the ffof has done well, but I heard it only stays hot for 3 or 4 weeks. I have to transplant to bigger pots today so I was thinking of adding some weaker soil with it so that I can start pounding these nutes after I see how she takes them.

Plus I have lime in the soil I'm using now, and I've noticed several of these aurora products in the pack contain calcium and magnesium.
 

ThorGanjason

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Has you or anyone else ever burned with their organic stuff? It came with two things out of the soul synthetics line, big swell and amino aide, which I might use a little of the amino aide but I was super stoked on growing dank 100% organically
 

prosperian

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I would burn leaf tips pushing the Buddha Grow / Bloom at about three weeks into flowering. I ran full strength and combined both products to keep the leaves from yellowing to harvest. I ran the edge and backed off as I saw toxicity in the plants. Kind of a balancing act. I used bagged organic soil with no amendments, so the plants were in constant starvation and wanted the bottle Roots products. Using the bagged Roots Organics potting soil in my current grow has eliminated this issue for me.

Here is a pic of the Roots Organics bottle feed grow. Yield of 2.25 oz. per plant



Here is pic of my current 6-week vegged grow with just Roots O potting soil and water.
 

ThorGanjason

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Awesome. Those look like some nice healthy plants!!

My biggest problem has been slow growth. Initially I thought it was just from over watering for about a week, plus I had a week of cold night time temps so I figured I lost some growth during those stints. But the passed week or two they have been really healthy, and I still am not seeing the growth that I was expecting. 2 of my plants are coning up on almost 5 weeks since they came out of the dirt, and they just aren't getting as big as fast as I want them to. I read in a book that healthy plants with slow growth usually have pH problems, so I'm trying to sort that out.
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prosperian

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They look about three weeks and when most of the growth is in the roots below surface. So, taking into account the setbacks, you're about right on target. I see a lot of development on top of the soil surface around 5-7 weeks depending on what I've done in cropping and lst-ing. If you can keep the environment stable, they will really start growing for you soon.

I don't measure ph growing in organic soil. I did on my first grow and it was always about 7.0-7.2, never saw an issue with lockout. The Roots bottled nutes do a good job keeping your soil in the proper ph range.
 

ThorGanjason

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Swwwweeeet!! Good to know, man. Yeah I was really hoping to see some explosive growth, hopefully I do here soon. Can't wait to see what this master pack does for them.

So when you say drop it to quarter strength-- I've already started slow with most of my plants, and have been giving (the bigger ones, still have a few seedlings) full strength to them already. Should I back off a little on the grow formula since I'm trying the other stuff out? Plus I topped/fimmed a couple (only 1 fim worked), and I'm about to transplant. It said on the label to wait for new growth after transplanting before feeding
 

prosperian

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I recommend to start at a lower dosage (1/4 strength) on anything you haven't worked with before. You can always add more. It's much harder to take away if you overfeed, ya know?
 

ThorGanjason

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Teeeen four, good Buddy. Yeah, especially with this organic stuff. Its really forgiving BC of the way the plant uptakes. But by god, when there's too much its bad. I had 40 seedlings once upon a time. I did experiments on a bunch of them BC I knew I wasn't gonna have space for them all and I was learning. But with 4 of the seedlings I gave full strength nutes (the buddha grow) almost every day. They looked fine, and started to really jump ahead of the other ones but by the time it started absorbing it all they were d.o.a. lol.
 

BluJayz

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Funny, I was not given the master feeding schedule as well.

Funny as well what I had decided on was just about in line with what it says. Minus the non organics.
 

ThorGanjason

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If you need the 5 mil feeding program there is a link to it somewhere on here. I took a screenshot I'll post it for you. Did you pick up the master pack? If so I have some great tips after working with the stuff for several months. Its looking like I'm gonna crop about a pound off of my six plants from my first run, and the quality has been amazing.

These nutrients really are in a league of their own, being bottled, advanced nutrients and being organic at the same time. But yeah, lemme know if you got the master pack (did it not come with the little booklet? The feeding schedule is in there towards the back of it).

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