help with Crystal grow

Ok I was figuring I'd start flowering them this week sometime. I'll start checking through the bottom holes and really let em dry out. The one girl is so droopy and sad looking I hope she starts looking better

Give them a couple days and let me know what you see. My guess is that they'll perk up a bit, but you may continue seeing the brown spots spreading a bit. Don't worry about it, just give the plants some time-- their clock runs a bit slower than yours. The good news is that you'll have vinegar to spare around the house now

Sub'd - lol.

Hey, boXed - any update?

Yeah I started flowering them the one girl still looks sad but here's some pictures.


In a few hours my light will come on and I'll get some updated pictures

Looking good! Are you getting any more brown spots?

Yes I'm still getting some because of funds I haven't been able to get anything for her but here's some pictures I just took right now

Here is some more but on my one biggest girl some of her leaves are curling bad I'll show you I

It looks like the brown spot problem is all in the older leaves, which lends more support to magnesium def. I have a feeling the problem with your limp leaves is related to overwatering. You may have started a bit of root rot in the bottom of those buckets.

All that said, I feel pretty good about sticking with my first recommendations:
- Confirm the ph meter you have is well calibrated and working
- Let the soil dry out before watering again (checking through the holes in the bottom of the pots)
- Start watering with distilled water for a couple weeks, adding a bit of cal-mag or epsom salts (staying conservative with dosage)
- Long term, find a better way to manage water and ph (no more vinegar, consider either RO filtering, bottled water, or perhaps phosphoric acid to bring down the ph)

I don't know what size your plants were when you moved them to 5 gal. pots. It may have been a bit too early, allowing water to stagnate in the bottom. Next time be sure to water lightly when you first transplant to the bigger pot.

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as for my ph meter after using some calibrated 7.01 liquid I got it dialed in now. I'm going to try the distilled water. Their roots are growing out of the holes in the bottom of the pots and the one has some brown looking roots the other 2 are nice and white but the plant with the brown roots is not the one with brown spots. I tried to really let them dry out this past time and only watered them one time then none for about a week then they started looking different and gave them water. Should I start feeding them small doses of tiger bloom? I'll get pictures of the roots in about an hour when my light comes on here's the latest

Also after testing my water again and really letting it sit in it until it stops changing which takes awhile my water is around 8 I think I wasn't giving the meter enough time to get the final reading and making my water to acidic. And over watering. This was my first learning experience I really did some research before I started and knew this was gonna be a learning experience I'm glad you've taken the time to help a newbie. I appreciate it

Glad I can help a bit. Honestly, your grow looks to be doing a hell of a lot better than my first grow did (if there were any pictures, I would have burned them by now, lol). The fact that the roots are growing out the bottoms of the pots indicates that a lot of what your doing is spot on, and that the girls will recover.

I do think they were transplanted into the 5 gal pots too soon, resulting in stagnant water in the bottom of the pots. Easily corrected for next time. Just pick an intemediary size, like a 2 gallon that you will use until the plant gets a bit root bound.

I would hold off on any nutrients except maybe the cal-mag with your next watering. What may look like nutrient deficiency now can be the result of the issues that are just getting corrected. Your Happy Frog is 5-5-5; the plants will be fine waiting another week without additional nutrients. By then I think they will all look much more perky.

A ph of 8 will be fine without any changes. In soil, ph matters much less than in hydro.

BTW, see the twisting in the leaves of the young plants? That was an early indicator that the ph was off. Next grow you won't see that happen.

Ok so here's what I've gathered from just looking at them here's my first one who didn't grow real tall in the center instead grew out the sides it has brown roots coming from the bottom and they look weak but the plant overall looks fine

Next here's my pride and joy. My biggest prettiest girl she has huge leaves. She's really tall thick stem all green. Some of her leaves have twisted but overall she looks the best

Last is my poor girl who's being taken over by Brown spots and looks overall unhealthy. She used to be the biggest

Also with the cal-mag can I just pick this up at my local hydro store?

Anyone still there? Lol

Here's an update. I purchased some cal-mag from my local hydro store. I gave them the recommended feeding this past watering a couple days ago here's what they look like now.