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uranyum kamil

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2x2 yetiştirme kutusu
Mars ts1000 ışığı
toprak plagron ligtmix
Canna başlangıç seti
gübre
7lt tencere ölçüsünde.
Tohumlar: tatlı tohum karışımı otomatik 10

Sorun 4 otomobil fabrikasından yalnızca birinde ilerledi ve diğerlerinde yeni başladı. Artık önlem almam lazım. Tecrübeli arkadaşlar yardımcı olursa sevinirim. Çeviri yaparak yazıyorum, hatalarım varsa affola :)
 

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English: I'm still new to growing, but I'd guess it's a potassium deficiency. I'm sorry if this is hard to read in your language. I speak English and had to translate.

Turkish: Yetiştirme konusunda henüz yeniyim ama bunun bir potasyum eksikliği olduğunu tahmin ediyorum. Bunu sizin dilinizde okumak zorsa özür dilerim. İngilizce konuşuyorum ve tercüme etmem gerekiyordu.
 
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UnknownRemedy said:
English: I'm still new to growing, but I'd guess it's a potassium deficiency. I'm sorry if this is hard to read in your language. I speak English and had to translate.

Turkish: Yetiştirme konusunda henüz yeniyim ama bunun bir potasyum eksikliği olduğunu tahmin ediyorum. Bunu sizin dilinizde okumak zorsa özür dilerim. İngilizce konuşuyorum ve tercüme etmem gerekiyordu.
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thanks dude. As these spots increased, I doubted that I had fertilized too much, so I did 2 empty irrigations and the problem did not improve. I will continue the next irrigation with bloom fertilizers. Thank you also for the very understandable text :)
 
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uranyum kamil said:
thanks dude. As these spots increased, I doubted that I had fertilized too much, so I did 2 empty irrigations and the problem did not improve. I will continue the next irrigation with bloom fertilizers. Thank you also for the very understandable text :)
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I hope it works. I don't have much to base it off of besides studying various deficiencies online trying to figure out my own issue. But it looks like potassium with the burnt looking leaf tips, and the yellow/Browning inside of the margins.

Before you start your bloom fertilizer again I'd wait for someone more knowledgeable than me. But I'm glad to give you some ideas.
 
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UnknownRemedy said:
English: I'm still new to growing, but I'd guess it's a potassium deficiency. I'm sorry if this is hard to read in your language. I speak English and had to translate.
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The very first thing to look at when trying to identify a deficiency is to consider where on the plant the symptoms have first appeared. Whenever possible, a plant will translocate the missing nutrients from the lower (older) growth to support the newer growth to help sustain the plant (mobile nutrients). In other words, it will sacrifice its old for its new.

Certain nutrients (e.g., calcium, iron, boron, manganese, to name a few) are unable to move throughout the plant (immobile nutrients). Due to this, the symptoms will first appear on the newer growth of the plant and the older growth will remain healthy looking.

Potassium is a mobile nutrient, so symptoms of a potassium deficiency start at the lower growth of the plant. The lower growth of this plant here does not present with necrosis on the leaf margins.
 
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ec121 said:
The very first thing to look at when trying to identify a deficiency is to consider where on the plant the symptoms have first appeared. Whenever possible, a plant will translocate the missing nutrients from the lower (older) growth to support the newer growth to help sustain the plant (mobile nutrients). In other words, it will sacrifice its old for its new.

Certain nutrients (e.g., calcium, iron, boron, manganese, to name a few) are unable to move throughout the plant (immobile nutrients). Due to this, the symptoms will first appear on the newer growth of the plant and the older growth will remain healthy looking.

Potassium is a mobile nutrient, so symptoms of a potassium deficiency start at the lower growth of the plant. The lower growth of this plant here does not present with necrosis on the leaf margins.
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Oh that's really interesting. I'll definitely try to remember that. I did read that it does start at older leaves then moves up, but it also said that sometimes it can start from the top. That's why I told him I'm guessing, because I only know from what I've read.

I don't know how good of a resource this is though it's been generally helpful.

Leaf Problem / Symptoms: With a marijuana potassium deficiency, you’ll generally see symptoms on older leaves, but not always. Sometimes you’ll see the symptoms at the top of the plant.

www.growweedeasy.com

How to fix Cannabis Potassium Deficiency (K) Pics & Symptoms

Leaves with a potassium deficiency have yellow, brown, or burnt edges and tips. It may look like nutrient burn, but the leaf margins also turn yellow.
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ec121 said:
The very first thing to look at when trying to identify a deficiency is to consider where on the plant the symptoms have first appeared. Whenever possible, a plant will translocate the missing nutrients from the lower (older) growth to support the newer growth to help sustain the plant (mobile nutrients). In other words, it will sacrifice its old for its new.

Certain nutrients (e.g., calcium, iron, boron, manganese, to name a few) are unable to move throughout the plant (immobile nutrients). Due to this, the symptoms will first appear on the newer growth of the plant and the older growth will remain healthy looking.

Potassium is a mobile nutrient, so symptoms of a potassium deficiency start at the lower growth of the plant. The lower growth of this plant here does not present with necrosis on the leaf margins.
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great information. Thanks for your valuable comment
 
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UnknownRemedy said:
Oh that's really interesting. I'll definitely try to remember that. I did read that it does start at older leaves then moves up, but it also said that sometimes it can start from the top. That's why I told him I'm guessing, because I only know from what I've read.

I don't know how good of a resource this is though it's been generally helpful.

Leaf Problem / Symptoms: With a marijuana potassium deficiency, you’ll generally see symptoms on older leaves, but not always. Sometimes you’ll see the symptoms at the top of the plant.

www.growweedeasy.com

How to fix Cannabis Potassium Deficiency (K) Pics & Symptoms

Leaves with a potassium deficiency have yellow, brown, or burnt edges and tips. It may look like nutrient burn, but the leaf margins also turn yellow.
www.growweedeasy.com www.growweedeasy.com
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The first thing that came to my mind. But I think my problem is related to the distance and power of the TS1000. There is a post here that looks exactly like my plant. what do you think? Thank you for your time and attention.
 

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uranyum kamil said:
The first thing that came to my mind. But I think my problem is related to the distance and power of the TS1000. There is a post here that looks exactly like my plant. what do you think? Thank you for your time and attention.
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I agree it kinda looks really similar. How tall is the tent? To me it looked like the light was a good distance away, I have a cola that's almost touching my light. The led burn was more white, but it could be the strain you're growing doesn't need as much light.
 
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UnknownRemedy said:
I agree it kinda looks really similar. How tall is the tent? To me it looked like the light was a good distance away, I have a cola that's almost touching my light. The led burn was more white, but it could be the strain you're growing doesn't need as much light.
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It is 60x60x160 cm, but I have to keep the carbon filter and fan inside because of the noise. I was giving it at 90 percent from 30-35 cm. Now I have reduced it to 75, let's see if I can continue depending on the reaction. The real problem is that I thought these spots were due to overfeeding and ignored my 2 waterings. I hope that the next irrigation will feed it and adjust the light intensity and I will probably solve it :)
 
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UnknownRemedy said:
Oh that's really interesting. I'll definitely try to remember that. I did read that it does start at older leaves then moves up, but it also said that sometimes it can start from the top. That's why I told him I'm guessing, because I only know from what I've read.

I don't know how good of a resource this is though it's been generally helpful.

Leaf Problem / Symptoms: With a marijuana potassium deficiency, you’ll generally see symptoms on older leaves, but not always. Sometimes you’ll see the symptoms at the top of the plant.

www.growweedeasy.com

How to fix Cannabis Potassium Deficiency (K) Pics & Symptoms

Leaves with a potassium deficiency have yellow, brown, or burnt edges and tips. It may look like nutrient burn, but the leaf margins also turn yellow.
www.growweedeasy.com www.growweedeasy.com
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I'm not going to say there can't be another issue with a plant that would cause a mobile nutrient to present on the new growth in rare cases, but I stick to university research and botanists for this kind of stuff. Her site says to use a feed/water protocol in coco and has never taken the time to correct the information that has been clearly proven that nutrients should always be in water when using unamended coco. It's a good site for someone to get started growing, though.

This is a very good video that goes over how to identify deficiencies by a professor with a PhD in botany.


As for the OP, he needs to give as many details of his grow as possible if he wants more than just guesses or questions because many issues look similar and information narrows things down. For example, this thread illustrates what one should strive to do when posting information about a plant problem in order to remedy it as quickly as possible: https://www.rollitup.org/t/deficiency-yellow-leaves-spots-help-needed.1095128/
 
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uranyum kamil said:
I use the autos on for 20 hours. When the light is off it is 19 degrees, when it is on it varies between 23 and 25.
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night temp can be a little better and day temps shouldnt go below 25 even more ideally should be at 26-27 with leds. other than that i definitely see signs of overfertilizing on the other plants but new growth seems to be better so maybe that couple of straight waters you did really helped. which ferts are you using and how much?
 
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crimsonecho said:
night temp can be a little better and day temps shouldnt go below 25 even more ideally should be at 26-27 with leds. other than that i definitely see signs of overfertilizing on the other plants but new growth seems to be better so maybe that couple of straight waters you did really helped. which ferts are you using and how much?
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canna seti kullaniyorum ve kartta yazan ust miktarlari verdim bloom basinda. sanki cok gubre verince cok hasat alacak gibi buyuk hata. sicaklik konusunda tavsiyene kesinlikle uyacagim. benim ayirmakta zorlandigim sey potasyum eksikligi ile besin yanigini karistirmam.
 
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Now that I have bought an EC meter, I will have some idea about how much fertilizer I give. Is it true that autos need less nutrients than phtoto?
 
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ec121 said:
I'm not going to say there can't be another issue with a plant that would cause a mobile nutrient to present on the new growth in rare cases, but I stick to university research and botanists for this kind of stuff. Her site says to use a feed/water protocol in coco and has never taken the time to correct the information that has been clearly proven that nutrients should always be in water when using unamended coco. It's a good site for someone to get started growing, though.

This is a very good video that goes over how to identify deficiencies by a professor with a PhD in botany.


As for the OP, he needs to give as many details of his grow as possible if he wants more than just guesses or questions because many issues look similar and information narrows things down. For example, this thread illustrates what one should strive to do when posting information about a plant problem in order to remedy it as quickly as possible: https://www.rollitup.org/t/deficiency-yellow-leaves-spots-help-needed.1095128/
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Awesome, thank you for the information. As soon as I can watch that video I will.
 
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