Help with room lighting

White Penny

New Member
Hey guys I have a room thats 13ft x 12ft. The question I have is how many 1000 watts lights
I need to use the whole room for veggie and how many amps are those lights going to pull.
Will 60 amps do the work ...
 

CAPSLOCK

Member
I won't say anything about the amount of lights, there's way too much info on that all over the place. But have an electrical formula instead :

Power [watts] = Voltage[volts] * Current[amps].
You can sum up all the lights' and equipment's power in the grow room and calculate the total current.
Of course wire gauges should be taken into consideration as well... Can't run 60 amps on a 2.5 mm^2 wire..
 

CAPSLOCK

Member
A 2.5mm wire is what usually a normal house has...
And 2500W is the load wall sockets are usually planned for (at least in my country).
2500/230 = 10.9 Amps ==> 16 Amp breaker. Won't allow you to use more.
Do your calculations and prepare everything that has to do with the electricity, don't play with that..
 

White Penny

New Member
capslock the breaker for the circuit Im talking is a 60amp breaker and the wall sockets are made to hold 20amps if Im not wrong
I want to run 6 HID each one of 1000 watts, you think my electric set up will hold that and sorry if I keep asking the same question in
different ways I just want to make sure I wont have any problems. Thank you capslock and stickybuds for the reply
 

CAPSLOCK

Member
Use the simple formula :
Power = Voltage * Current. Each country has its own standard, guess I'll have to stop assuming you live in a 230V country...
Anyway, if the 60 amp switch is exclusive for the grow room it'll hold 13800W or 6600W depending on voltage..
If you use the sockets, they must be all under the same main switch, but each with a different wire going through them. A 60 amp setup will usually have more breakers than one - is it so in yours?
 

Ou8aCracker2

Well-Known Member
Use the simple formula :
Power = Voltage * Current. Each country has its own standard, guess I'll have to stop assuming you live in a 230V country...
Anyway, if the 60 amp switch is exclusive for the grow room it'll hold 13800W or 6600W depending on voltage..[/b


WRONG,and,VERY BAD/DANGEROUS INFO!

When using continuous power (running and device for 3 hours or longer) you can only use up to 80% of the breakers amperage rating safely!

So 110 x 60 = 6600w

6600 x .8 = 5280w safely

Or 60 amps x .8 = 48 amps safe to use.
 

White Penny

New Member
Ok so I need to run only 5280watts so I dont have any problems. Another question is there any way that I can upgrade so I can have more voltage so that way I will be able to pull more watts right... and thank you everyone that keep replying
 

White Penny

New Member
Here is what Im going to do from that 60 amps breaker Im only going to run 4 lights of 1000 watts each one and 2 inline fans of 6 inches , so I guess I wont have any problems with that. the other 2 lights Im going to run them from a complete different circuit. you guys correct me if Im wrong... Really got to thank all of you guys for clearing all my doubts to this point I was really lost is this area
 

CAPSLOCK

Member
WRONG,and,VERY BAD/DANGEROUS INFO!

When using continuous power (running and device for 3 hours or longer) you can only use up to 80% of the breakers amperage rating safely!

So 110 x 60 = 6600w

6600 x .8 = 5280w safely

Or 60 amps x .8 = 48 amps safe to use.
All the reduction prefixes are supposed to be calculated by the engineer that planned your house. I live in a not-so-advanced country, but we use the EU standard. Whenever planning an electrical system the current are calculated in following way:
Iz>Ib>In where Iz - is the current that the wire can take. Ib - is the current the breaker can hold for infinite time. In - the nominal load of the circuit. This rule also applies to all tables of wire gauge-breaker-load I've seen.

I haven't researched the American standards too deeply, but I honestly think everyone copied the DIN (German) standard in one way or another. Maybe you have other power-factor standards and such that may affect this coefficient you suggested.
Of course a 100% load isn't good for any device, but I would like to see the source of the information that lead you to stating that 0.8 is the right fixing coefficient and that "continuous power" is defined by "3 hours or longer".
Fixing coefficients are determined by the ambient temp, wiring and installation method. Manufacturers of electrical equipment use their own coefficients so they can state their device's nominal current - which is by definition - for unlimited time.

BUT, your reply is not complete BS since we're dealing with amateurs and not professionals here, and you can never be TOO safe.
You can always claim that messing with electricity is DANGEROUS because it is indeed so... Unless you're an experienced electrician.


Disclaimer : Electrical advice/supervision cannot be given correctly by means of telecommunications, therefore when setting up a NEW electrical system you must consult a certified electrician.
 

CAPSLOCK

Member
Here is what Im going to do from that 60 amps breaker Im only going to run 4 lights of 1000 watts each one and 2 inline fans of 6 inches , so I guess I wont have any problems with that. the other 2 lights Im going to run them from a complete different circuit. you guys correct me if Im wrong... Really got to thank all of you guys for clearing all my doubts to this point I was really lost is this area
That's a good decision. Don't load your circuits at 100%. You can load 90%+ though. Lamp's current consumption grows a little over time..
 

CAPSLOCK

Member
Wrong,you can only safely use up to 80% of the breaker/circuits ampacity!
Well, since you're too lazy to state your sources, I found them myself...
Seems that you are right. I am very sorry for misleading OP. Your system of measurement is so fucked, AWG and all that shit. I give up!
 

White Penny

New Member
I would not use 1000 watt to veg it cost to much to veg . my opinion. if I had a gun to my head and they told me I had to veg with 1000 then I would open hood only. and you would need 8 1000 to get them max lumen per square inch . that's 900 a month in electric around . there are much better choices to veg with .http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/electric/electricity-calculator.htm but you did not ask that .

tell me some better choices and why are they better , btw thanks to everybody that help me with this I add rep to everybody
 

igothydrotoneverywhere

Well-Known Member
1000 watt light is useless greater than 4' x 4' and wasteful smaller than 4' x 4' for cannabis, so you have room for 3 rows with 3 lights in each, for 9 total, as long as your tables, plants are moveable.
 
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