Help with seedlings and stem length

KaylasKush

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I live in an illegal country, seeds have no drug chemicals in them therefore they cannot be classed as illegal and are freely legal to order and buy, your state or country may be more anal in classifying non drug things as illegal under your drug law.
Of course, you can order seeds anywhere just as a sounvenir, but in England as soon as they sprout it becomes illegal.
 

KaylasKush

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So with Durban, you must like the uplifting sativa types?
How's your growing season where your from?
Maybe start a grow journal, its fun and you can look back on your notes and advice!
Actually I really like the heavy body high that indica's give over a racey strain. However I bought DP from the Dutch Passion Amsterdam website because it was good for the English weather. It did state that over time its been crossed with some indica genetics, so it's actually not a 100% sativa.

I planted my 3 DP seeds on May 27th, and they take about 8-9 weeks. They should be harvested around August but I have a feeling mine will go slow and it will be late September.

I think I will start a grow journal actually, I like looking back :)
 

sandhill larry

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Looks like you have sand dunes for soil there. . . . . .
Thus my name. I do have some good dirt in the river bottoms. But it has been known to flood, so . . . .

This is my first year growing in pots. I have always just added the mixed soil to the hole. There is always some theft of water and ferts from the neighboring trees, bushes and weeds. And growing in planted pines, you only have a couple of years before they outgrow the spot. I was going to redo the hole where I grew the Deer Ate CP1 last year, and there was no usable sun. The trees had grown 2-3 feet, and the weeds were already over head high. All that extra growth was from the food and water I gave the plant. Since it isn't my land, I don't cut or lean over any of the pines. I will cut or pull down trash trees if needed.
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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20170611_095937.jpg Sometimes I have a seedling that gets away from me. This white fire was started in a damp paper towel and transplanted from that to seedling starter mix and put under cfl. She got a really stretched neck due to color spectrum mistake DUH!!!. I put her under 400 watt H.P.S with a fan on her to toughen up the stem and a couple weeks later she became this beefy but long plant
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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Then I trim off all the lower crap and cotyledons and knock her out if the cup open up the root balkgently not wild ape like lol. Dig a new hole and re pot.20170611_100300.jpg 20170611_100405.jpg 20170611_100531.jpg 20170611_100749.jpg
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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Cannabis is a tough plant dont let her fool you. This is what Ive done for 3.5 million years and it probably makes everyone cringe but.... Never an issues. Water abd right back under HPS!
 

KaylasKush

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View attachment 3959118 Sometimes I have a seedling that gets away from me. This white fire was started in a damp paper towel and transplanted from that to seedling starter mix and put under cfl. She got a really stretched neck due to color spectrum mistake DUH!!!. I put her under 400 watt H.P.S with a fan on her to toughen up the stem and a couple weeks later she became this beefy but long plant
That's lovely to see!!
People are giving me much hope now. I have a good LED on them and a fan making them dance a bit. If I feel the stem still isn't strong enough by Friday then I will transplant again and deepen it.
But they're looking very healthy and vibrant :)

Happy growing and keep me posted! Love seeing the progress of other people's plants.
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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Doesn't cutting off the bottom risk losing some bud though? I'm not down for that haha. Plus I'd be too scared to scrape so close to the root.
Cut off and scrape? No, lol. Just dump the plant out, fluff up the roots a little , replant. Cut off the lowest crappy leaves and BURY THAT STEM DAMMIT !!! LOL no, there is no bud loss with this method. Did you think id be down with a compromised harvest????? Bwaaaahaaaahaaa fuck no lol.
 

Danny88

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Hi,

On my last thread I was concerned about the length of my stems and just as I thought, it was that they're stretching out for more light. Tomorrow the LED light is being delivered and I'll put it up ASAP.

However someone said to also plant them in deeper pots. I went out but couldn't find a similar pot size that was just deeper, so instead I bought a larger pot. I understand it's too big for seedlings that are just over 2 weeks old and that it will slow the growth rate down, but it's okay. The only thing is I was a massive (excuse my language) fucking idiot and didn't plant them deep enough. So once again the stem's are very tall. I was under pressure when transplanting them because I was so worried about hurting them due to how delicate they were. I wasn't thinking straight, and then when I had done all of them I remembered, "bruh, the whole point of you doing this was to PLANT THEM DEEPER".
I have however been told by someone that covering a lot of the stem is the last thing you should do as it can rot. So I'm pretty lost.

Sorry for so much information before the actual question, I just want to explain the whole scenario beforehand.

Question: Can I leave the current length of these stems and just hope that the grow light will strengthen them up/keep them at that height for a while? Or is the current length a very big problem for the future?

Thanks in advance guys
I wouldn't worry too much as long as you support them in a few week they will be doing a lot better no point in wasting money just make sure when you re-pot to only leave a few inches of stem it happen to me a few week ago my mate didn't put the seeds far enough in they are quite resilient I actually had to spiral the stem and fill with more coco just had to be gentle but it depends how soft the stem is also good to see someone else from England
 

sandhill larry

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I've been replanting seedlings all week. Rain, rain, rain and no sun will make for some leggy seedlings. Here are a few I did this morning that were way too tall.

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KaylasKush

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Polite and intelligent, should have guessed England LOL.
Good luck to you
And thanks to Brittain for Dr Who which is pretty much the only thing worth watching anymore aside from big bang theory.
Hahahah thank you :).
England's going to shit though. I'm originally South African but have lived many years here. Good place for opportunities but the country's going downhill day by day.

Also if you think Doctor Who is the only thing worth watching anymore you're missing ouuuuut. What about Game of Thrones bruh?
 
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KaylasKush

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I wouldn't worry too much as long as you support them in a few week they will be doing a lot better no point in wasting money just make sure when you re-pot to only leave a few inches of stem it happen to me a few week ago my mate didn't put the seeds far enough in they are quite resilient I actually had to spiral the stem and fill with more coco just had to be gentle but it depends how soft the stem is also good to see someone else from England
Yes 100%. I ended up supporting them with sticks and deciding not to listen to the people that are yelling at me to cover up the stems immediately, and they've been doing amazing. I removed the sticks a while ago now and they're still standing strong. The fan has helped with thickening the stem's for sure. Next time I transplant I will definitely cover a lot of stem though as it's stupidly long, but for now they seem absolutely fine.

Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone, haha :)
 

WeedFreak78

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Actually I really like the heavy body high that indica's give over a racey strain. However I bought DP from the Dutch Passion Amsterdam website because it was good for the English weather. It did state that over time its been crossed with some indica genetics, so it's actually not a 100% sativa.

I planted my 3 DP seeds on May 27th, and they take about 8-9 weeks. They should be harvested around August but I have a feeling mine will go slow and it will be late September.

I think I will start a grow journal actually, I like looking back :)
Durban is my go to wake and bake, motivational strain. I smoke it and immediately want to go do something. My friends all notice the same effect. They also comment on how it numbs your lips a little.

I'm in the NE USA at 42lat and outdoors they always finished the 3rd week of September. I've learned when the ferns in the woods around yellow out, the Durban will be done in about a week. Indoors they look good around 65 days, they do finish petty quick for being sativa heavy.
 

Father Ramirez

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Keep us posted, fellas. I like the sounds of this. Sativa fan here, always looking to learn something new.

And to offer something classic... plants don't need support, or scrog, or fog or any other bullshit netting or poles. They do just fine on their own.
 

KaylasKush

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Durban is my go to wake and bake, motivational strain. I smoke it and immediately want to go do something. My friends all notice the same effect. They also comment on how it numbs your lips a little.

I'm in the NE USA at 42lat and outdoors they always finished the 3rd week of September. I've learned when the ferns in the woods around yellow out, the Durban will be done in about a week. Indoors they look good around 65 days, they do finish petty quick for being sativa heavy.
Well that's definitely what I need, being the unproductive person I am. Yeah I've heard Durban Poison has a very distinct taste that people either love or hate. Someone said it was like liquorice which is fine for me 'cause I love liquorice, hah.

Ferns in the woods? Sorry it's 5am and I'm probably zombified and being dumb but not sure what that is. Nevertheless thanks so much for that info because I worry about harvesting too early/too late. Trichomes are the only thing I know about checking.
Exactly, I picked it because it was a easier strain to grow in England AND it's damn fast :)

Have an awesome day!
 

sunny747

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I have been thinking about this... For the past few grows my seedlings have sprouted and stretched like crazy no matter what I did.. More light, less light, fan, no fan etc..

I recently popped a seed under 12/12 and it's been vegging for 3 weeks. It's the nicest looking seedling I have ever had. It's short and has nice big fanners on it. A perfect start.

This makes me think about nature. In nature the seeds would sprout in the spring when days are still short. So maybe from now on I'll veg the first few weeks under 12/12.

See the baby on the left.. She's kind of pale which is interesting, but she has the same soil and environment as the others.

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WeedFreak78

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Well that's definitely what I need, being the unproductive person I am. Yeah I've heard Durban Poison has a very distinct taste that people either love or hate. Someone said it was like liquorice which is fine for me 'cause I love liquorice, hah.

Ferns in the woods? Sorry it's 5am and I'm probably zombified and being dumb but not sure what that is. Nevertheless thanks so much for that info because I worry about harvesting too early/too late. Trichomes are the only thing I know about checking.
Exactly, I picked it because it was a easier strain to grow in England AND it's damn fast :)

Have an awesome day!
These ferns. When they start yellowing around here, the Durban will be close to done, usually about a week left, if it's flowing outdoors. Your times will vary slightly, but I'd think it would be fairly close. Where it's heavy sativa, the ones I've grown never really ambered, just got real milky with a few ambers. I ran one 10 weeks indoors and it didn't amber up much more, I think I lost some potency also. I've found around 63 days, indoors, is just about right.


I try helping out Durban grows when I see them, it's an awesome strain that doesn't get much attention.
 
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