Help with watering

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jfarrismu said:
Hi all,

If someone could please give me some kind advice about watering, I'd appreciate it.

I overwatered terribly on my first grow. Second one is better, but still producing a stunted, sickly plant. I tried watering when top inch was dry method the first time unsuccessfully. This time I did the weigh method, but I fear I haven't been aggressive enough yet.

I have fabric pots on the way for my next grow. I know the roots need to breathe, but is the idea for the whole medium to be completely dry, or very close? (before watering again)

To be honest I'm still working out my potting medium, but it's getting better! I fully intend to keep making my own soil, but I need advice nonetheless. I added 25% perlite this grow (the 100% soil one was an epic disaster lol) and that has helped, but I'm considering upping that to 50% perlite next grow (which is soon).

If you think I'm destined to fail, I'd rather just not hear that. If you have something constructive and helpful to add, I'm all ears. Thank you.
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Water time. It's been 4 days since I watered. The finger in soil method for checking resulted in dryness the first inch or two. It's just very slightly moist beyond that. It took 3/4 gallon before run off. The grow bag has gotten nicely firm with roots.
It was a fertilizer watering (every other watering, per the directions).
I'm going to wait until the plant has a chance to settle and I think I'll probably switch to bloom.
 

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Bukvičák

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jfarrismu said:
What other issues do you think I have?
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What I see is either temperature issue or overloaded medium assuming you fed before. You most likely wont be able to handle watering in big pots with micro plants like this. Your fabric wont help either, they run cold as shit. Choose proper size of container or let them grow bigger. Also rise yer temperature if your meter works fine. Good luck!
 
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jfarrismu said:
Hi all,

If someone could please give me some kind advice about watering, I'd appreciate it.

I overwatered terribly on my first grow. Second one is better, but still producing a stunted, sickly plant. I tried watering when top inch was dry method the first time unsuccessfully. This time I did the weigh method, but I fear I haven't been aggressive enough yet.

I have fabric pots on the way for my next grow. I know the roots need to breathe, but is the idea for the whole medium to be completely dry, or very close? (before watering again)

To be honest I'm still working out my potting medium, but it's getting better! I fully intend to keep making my own soil, but I need advice nonetheless. I added 25% perlite this grow (the 100% soil one was an epic disaster lol) and that has helped, but I'm considering upping that to 50% perlite next grow (which is soon).

If you think I'm destined to fail, I'd rather just not hear that. If you have something constructive and helpful to add, I'm all ears. Thank you.
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Just an update for you: I changed my timer then set my grow light to "bloom" 2 days ago and watered yesterday. If you look at the last picture I sent you and the picture of the plant 2 days ago which is below, you can really see how that shot of nutrients and watering when it needed it, exploded the growth overnight. Watering every 4 days right now. 5 gallon grow bag. 3 gallon grow bag my first plant last winter was too small. Watering will be less than 4 days soon. Probably next water because the light throws more heat in "bloom" (evaporation) and the plant will take more water because of flowering.
I dropped a picture of the soil I'm using. It's in the bag. You can see the mix of perlite. I think 50 percent, like you say you're going to use next time you mix soil for a grow, might be overkill. Maybe you can use the picture as a reference.
You have to really take into consideration the size of the plant to the size of the container when you water. If it gets big, rootbound without alot of soil to retain moisture, you will have to water more often.
 

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OutdoorOpps

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When you have more experience, you know how to water just taking a look on your plants, until then, a cheap way is to buy a humidity measurer, there are tons on amazon, they can give peace of mind to newbies racing minds.
 
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Running with scissors said:
Just an update for you: I changed my timer then set my grow light to "bloom" 2 days ago and watered yesterday. If you look at the last picture I sent you and the picture of the plant 2 days ago which is below, you can really see how that shot of nutrients and watering when it needed it, exploded the growth overnight. Watering every 4 days right now. 5 gallon grow bag. 3 gallon grow bag my first plant last winter was too small. Watering will be less than 4 days soon. Probably next water because the light throws more heat in "bloom" (evaporation) and the plant will take more water because of flowering.
I dropped a picture of the soil I'm using. It's in the bag. You can see the mix of perlite. I think 50 percent, like you say you're going to use next time you mix soil for a grow, might be overkill. Maybe you can use the picture as a reference.
You have to really take into consideration the size of the plant to the size of the container when you water. If it gets big, rootbound without alot of soil to retain moisture, you will have to water more often.
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Steady as she goes. She is taking water every 3 days now. It's just moist an inch or 2 down when I finger check.
A gallon today until run off.
I'm trying some low stress 90 degree training clips. Smells fantastic.
 

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Boreal Curing

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blgdlkbandit said:
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,...Pick them up.. get used to the weight..Let your plant tell you when it needs water, don't let it hit the soil its soo dry, but you may notice after lights come back on a slight droop....Again your mileege may vary, but this is what has been working for me, in ffof/ffhf/ffsf/perlite mix in a fabric pot... 5 gallons.
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Boom!
Seriously, it will only take a few times to know when they need water.
 
BenGman

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You are better off using perlite and coco coir with a bottle nutrient line of some sort , and fucking the soil right off, use a feeding chart and PH then you'll have no medium issues.
 
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jfarrismu said:
Hi all,

If someone could please give me some kind advice about watering, I'd appreciate it.

I overwatered terribly on my first grow. Second one is better, but still producing a stunted, sickly plant. I tried watering when top inch was dry method the first time unsuccessfully. This time I did the weigh method, but I fear I haven't been aggressive enough yet.

I have fabric pots on the way for my next grow. I know the roots need to breathe, but is the idea for the whole medium to be completely dry, or very close? (before watering again)

To be honest I'm still working out my potting medium, but it's getting better! I fully intend to keep making my own soil, but I need advice nonetheless. I added 25% perlite this grow (the 100% soil one was an epic disaster lol) and that has helped, but I'm considering upping that to 50% perlite next grow (which is soon).

If you think I'm destined to fail, I'd rather just not hear that. If you have something constructive and helpful to add, I'm all ears. Thank you.
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Here's what we got now. I'm avoiding this site. Too many negative vibes, bro.
It's taking a gallon of water every 2-3 days. I'm using Fox Farm products

jfarrismu said:
Hi all,

If someone could please give me some kind advice about watering, I'd appreciate it.

I overwatered terribly on my first grow. Second one is better, but still producing a stunted, sickly plant. I tried watering when top inch was dry method the first time unsuccessfully. This time I did the weigh method, but I fear I haven't been aggressive enough yet.

I have fabric pots on the way for my next grow. I know the roots need to breathe, but is the idea for the whole medium to be completely dry, or very close? (before watering again)

To be honest I'm still working out my potting medium, but it's getting better! I fully intend to keep making my own soil, but I need advice nonetheless. I added 25% perlite this grow (the 100% soil one was an epic disaster lol) and that has helped, but I'm considering upping that to 50% perlite next grow (which is soon).

If you think I'm destined to fail, I'd rather just not hear that. If you have something constructive and helpful to add, I'm all ears. Thank you.
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jfarrismu said:
Hi all,

If someone could please give me some kind advice about watering, I'd appreciate it.

I overwatered terribly on my first grow. Second one is better, but still producing a stunted, sickly plant. I tried watering when top inch was dry method the first time unsuccessfully. This time I did the weigh method, but I fear I haven't been aggressive enough yet.

I have fabric pots on the way for my next grow. I know the roots need to breathe, but is the idea for the whole medium to be completely dry, or very close? (before watering again)

To be honest I'm still working out my potting medium, but it's getting better! I fully intend to keep making my own soil, but I need advice nonetheless. I added 25% perlite this grow (the 100% soil one was an epic disaster lol) and that has helped, but I'm considering upping that to 50% perlite next grow (which is soon).

If you think I'm destined to fail, I'd rather just not hear that. If you have something constructive and helpful to add, I'm all ears. Thank you.
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This is what we got. Sorry, I avoid this place. Too many negative vibes and ignorance.
This plant now is taking about a gallon until runoff every 2-3 days.
I'm using 2 FoxFarm products. It gets one or the other every other watering. Big Bloom one week, Extra strength the following week.
I don't trim I don't lollipop.
If I lose all the main shit up top at least I have the lower branches to fall back on and once they get enough light, they'll grow and produce as well as those top ones
If something goes wrong the plant can also draw what it needs from other leaves and branches until you get it to recover. The big thing is not to over react.

I'm just a noob. What do I know
 

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Lenin1917

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Fabric pots make it really hard to overwater, for seedlings I water once till I have a tiny bit of runoff before I plant them and then put the solo cup with holes on the bottom in a water dish little makeshift sip system. Fill the dish as needed transplant when ready.
 
Boreal Curing

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Lenin1917 said:
Fabric pots make it really hard to overwater, for seedlings I water once till I have a tiny bit of runoff before I plant them and then put the solo cup with holes on the bottom in a water dish little makeshift sip system. Fill the dish as needed transplant when ready.
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That's how I water my seedlings before they go out. Watering from the bottom is a huge help.
 
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Running with scissors said:
This is what we got. Sorry, I avoid this place. Too many negative vibes and ignorance.
This plant now is taking about a gallon until runoff every 2-3 days.
I'm using 2 FoxFarm products. It gets one or the other every other watering. Big Bloom one week, Extra strength the following week.
I don't trim I don't lollipop.
If I lose all the main shit up top at least I have the lower branches to fall back on and once they get enough light, they'll grow and produce as well as those top ones
If something goes wrong the plant can also draw what it needs from other leaves and branches until you get it to recover. The big thing is not to over react.

I'm just a noob. What do I know
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So you have a seemingly healthy plant but are willing to sacrifice the tops? I am not following you here. Can you explain your concerns? The tops are where the best bud will come from you want to focus there.
 
raggyb

raggyb

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pictures don't look that bright. What kind of lights you got and how high are they and what are temps?
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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Running with scissors said:
This is what we got. Sorry, I avoid this place. Too many negative vibes and ignorance.
This plant now is taking about a gallon until runoff every 2-3 days.
I'm using 2 FoxFarm products. It gets one or the other every other watering. Big Bloom one week, Extra strength the following week.
I don't trim I don't lollipop.
If I lose all the main shit up top at least I have the lower branches to fall back on and once they get enough light, they'll grow and produce as well as those top ones
If something goes wrong the plant can also draw what it needs from other leaves and branches until you get it to recover. The big thing is not to over react.

I'm just a noob. What do I know
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Why wouldn't you follow the nutrient schedule provided by the manufacturer? They didn't spend money researching and coming up with it for no reason.
 
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jfarrismu said:
Hi all,

If someone could please give me some kind advice about watering, I'd appreciate it.

I overwatered terribly on my first grow. Second one is better, but still producing a stunted, sickly plant. I tried watering when top inch was dry method the first time unsuccessfully. This time I did the weigh method, but I fear I haven't been aggressive enough yet.

I have fabric pots on the way for my next grow. I know the roots need to breathe, but is the idea for the whole medium to be completely dry, or very close? (before watering again)

To be honest I'm still working out my potting medium, but it's getting better! I fully intend to keep making my own soil, but I need advice nonetheless. I added 25% perlite this grow (the 100% soil one was an epic disaster lol) and that has helped, but I'm considering upping that to 50% perlite next grow (which is soon).

If you think I'm destined to fail, I'd rather just not hear that. If you have something constructive and helpful to add, I'm all ears. Thank you.
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Hydroton, hempy buckets and any quality hydro formula. If you can't do that, just buy weed.
 
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