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zzzz4xzzzz

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Got six autoflower plants, 2 of them in 2 gallon smart pots and the other 4 in one gallon smart pots, all the ones in the one gallon pots are experiencing some type of issues, as I am new and just switched nutrients im gonna get the nutrients aspect down first but is it possible that rootboundness could cause weird spots or marks on leaves ? And could make the stems and branches of my plants weak? Because the ones in the 2 gallon pots seem to be doing just fine as the ones in 1 gallon pots are not.. also a question if I do say have to transplant these plants could I possibly set the whole plant still inside the 1 gal smart pot into a bigger one with coco in it and just keep growing it ?
 
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Need pics and more details of your setup. Like lights, what nutes how often, etc. You've already mentioned coco, is that the medium in the pots?

P.s. Take pics under white or natural light.
 
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zzzz4xzzzz

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Jimbo the Gael said:
Need pics and more details of your setup. Like lights, what nutes how often, etc. You've already mentioned coco, is that the medium in the pots?

P.s. Take pics under white or natural light.
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Was using flora series gh, literally switched yesterday to maxibloom.. I’m using the kiss method 7 grams per gallon of tap water.. I water every feeding I feed 1-2 times a day yes they are planted in coco light is a LED Mars hydro 600wat grow light
 
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That looks like magnesium to me. Do you have any cal-mag or unscented Epsom salts? Start with 1/4 tsp per gallon, for Epsom. I'm not sure what the dosage rate for cal-mag would be, but that would actually be my first choice.

If I remember airpots correctly you can open them up along the side right? If so you shouldn't have any problem up potting them to larger pots. I haven't used air pots myself, so I don't know how well putting the current pot inside a larger one would work. If they are rootbound, then up potting would be an all round good idea, but I don't think it caused this.

I know they say not to transplant autos, but that's mostly to prevent any pauses in growth which can slightly compromise yields. Being rootbound would do that as well, and it might be worse. Up to you. You can always try it your way, and report what happens to the forum. But if I'm right about you being able to open them up along the sides it really shouldn't cause any problems.
 
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zzzz4xzzzz said:
Was using flora series gh, literally switched yesterday to maxibloom.. I’m using the kiss method 7 grams per gallon of tap water.. I water every feeding I feed 1-2 times a day yes they are planted in coco light is a LED Mars hydro 600wat grow light
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yes I did pick up some epsom salt as someone else gave me that suggestion.. the maxibloom already has calcium and magnesium in it so I’m gonna do a few feed with just the maxi bloom and see how the plants do.. if I see no improvement I will add a cal mag supplement thanks bro
 
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You don't say how old they are but folks grow to harvest with one gallon containers. Especially in coco.
My thoughts and 2 cents... If your have been checking Ph and it has been ok, then it's likely a nutrient issue. If you haven't been giving them any cal-mag or not enough that would be the first thing to do. If the coco you used was buffered, it has some calcium and magnesium in the media. The buffering directly affects how the medium holds or exchanges things (like calcium and magnesium and other things) with the plant. The media kind of "timed feeds" the cal-mag to the plant. You then continue use of cal-mag to keep the cation exchange capacity (CEC) of the coco high enough to do it's thing for the plant. The bigger the container, the more coco and the longer the media would contain enough CEC to keep the plant happily supplied. With a smaller container, and less coco, that CEC would diminish faster so those plants would suffer before those in larger containers. This may be the situation you have and why it's only ocurring in the 1 gal pots now. If this is the case, and nothing is changed, it will eventually result in the same occuring in the larger pots.
 
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zzzz4xzzzz

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coherent said:
You don't say how old they are but folks grow to harvest with one gallon containers. Especially in coco.
My thoughts and 2 cents... If your have been checking Ph and it has been ok, then it's likely a nutrient issue. If you haven't been giving them any cal-mag or not enough that would be the first thing to do. If the coco you used was buffered, it has some calcium and magnesium in the media. The buffering directly affects how the medium holds or exchanges things (like calcium and magnesium and other things) with the plant. The media kind of "timed feeds" the cal-mag to the plant. You then continue use of cal-mag to keep the cation exchange capacity (CEC) of the coco high enough to do it's thing for the plant. The bigger the container, the more coco and the longer the media would contain enough CEC to keep the plant happily supplied. With a smaller container, and less coco, that CEC would diminish faster so those plants would suffer before those in larger containers. This may be the situation you have and why it's only ocurring in the 1 gal pots now. If this is the case, and nothing is changed, it will eventually result in the same occuring in the larger pots.
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I definitely think it was a nutrient issue.. I was using flora series and I don’t think I was providing enough
coherent said:
You don't say how old they are but folks grow to harvest with one gallon containers. Especially in coco.
My thoughts and 2 cents... If your have been checking Ph and it has been ok, then it's likely a nutrient issue. If you haven't been giving them any cal-mag or not enough that would be the first thing to do. If the coco you used was buffered, it has some calcium and magnesium in the media. The buffering directly affects how the medium holds or exchanges things (like calcium and magnesium and other things) with the plant. The media kind of "timed feeds" the cal-mag to the plant. You then continue use of cal-mag to keep the cation exchange capacity (CEC) of the coco high enough to do it's thing for the plant. The bigger the container, the more coco and the longer the media would contain enough CEC to keep the plant happily supplied. With a smaller container, and less coco, that CEC would diminish faster so those plants would suffer before those in larger containers. This may be the situation you have and why it's only ocurring in the 1 gal pots now. If this is the case, and nothing is changed, it will eventually result in the same occuring in the larger pots.
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makes sense.. here’s the other thing I DID NOT buffer my coco does that mean they’re doomed all together ?
 
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zzzz4xzzzz said:
makes sense.. here’s the other thing I DID NOT buffer my coco does that mean they’re doomed all together ?
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Some coco (especially that purchased in bag form and not block) comes pre-buffered. Just check the bag on what you used, it will say. Unwashed, unbuffered coco can also contain high levels of sodium/salt which can also cause issues. If it pre-buffered the plants when small would be ok for a little while without adding more cal-mag. If you haven't added any cal-mag at all, start now with each feeding 3-5 ml per gal the first few times, then you can reduce to 1-2 ml per gallon, or every 2-3 feeding etc. You can also make a weak solution and foliar feed. One way or another, it doesn't mean doom... just correct the issue by feeding them cal-mag. You can also use epsom salt which is magnesium sufide... about 1/2 teaspoon (or 2 grams or so) dissolved per gal of water. You can also foliar feed with the epsom salt solution. Foliar feeding may provide faster result, but including it in the feed cycle needs to be done to buffer the coco. You can use the epson salt you get at a drug store or box store etc for soaking sore muscles. Just make sure it says pure and doesn't have any fragrances or junk in it.
 
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coherent said:
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Some coco (especially that purchased in bag form and not block) comes pre-buffered. Just check the bag on what you used, it will say. Unwashed, unbuffered coco can also contain high levels of sodium/salt which can also cause issues. If it pre-buffered the plants when small would be ok for a little while without adding more cal-mag. If you haven't added any cal-mag at all, start now with each feeding 3-5 ml per gal the first few times, then you can reduce to 1-2 ml per gallon, or every 2-3 feeding etc. You can also make a weak solution and foliar feed. One way or another, it doesn't mean doom... just correct the issue by feeding them cal-mag. You can also use epsom salt which is magnesium sufide... about 1/2 teaspoon (or 2 grams or so) dissolved per gal of water. You can also foliar feed with the epsom salt solution. Foliar feeding may provide faster result, but including it in the feed cycle needs to be done to buffer the coco. You can use the epson salt you get at a drug store or box store etc for soaking sore muscles. Just make sure it says pure and doesn't have any fragrances or junk in it.
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Everything you just said is what I plan on doing so it’s good I’m on the right track, thanks bro will definitely give an update
 
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