Helpppp.newbie...wierd problem/def/bugs ? Picsssss

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Itsdoubletime

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hi i am having a bit of a problem i can not diagnose i really could use sime help here are my conditions

2nd day of flowering
potted in ffof 25 percent perlite
using ff grow big big bloom and tiger bloom
ph seems a little mayb a little low runoff is coming in at 6.3
started first week of flowering nutes according to ff schedual but started off at about quarter strength
steady around 79 degrees humidity seems good
using tap water adding nutes and than adjusting ph with up/down
vegged under t5h/o plant looks awesome bushy and healthy besides some spots here and there
best way i can describe it is some of the leaves look burned up there is some tears in the leaves a few brownish spots and looks like some of them have been chewed on but i have checked for bugs i dont see any thing no mites or anything i can see the pics show better than i can explain please help as its driving me crazy growth has seemed to slow as it was flourishing but i thought mayb it was shock do to transplant i just did in to 5 gall about two weeks ago ...ps ..the problem was there before i transplanted
 

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nick17gar

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well that could be a couple of things, a pH imbalance makes that happen, as well as bugs. Just check for both and youll be ok. overall they look ok, dont worry too much over a few leaves.

Just keep checking often, the ph, the temps, and that theres no bugs. rip off those leaves, and see if more look like that a few days later.
 
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Itsdoubletime

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All these views and know one chimes in sometimes I feel like this site is just for browsers and people don't care about helping besides a good few .....would really appreciate some help guys
 
T.Huxley

T.Huxley

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For starters I'm pretty sure your humidity is way too high. How often are you using nutes? 1/4 strength or 2/4 strength? whats your ratio? Do you ever see bugs at all?
 
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Itsdoubletime

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Checked for bugs under a mag today nothing at all ... Didn't use nutes at all due to using ffof for at least the first three or four weeks I'm feeding at quarter strength mayb a tad higher feed water feed water used big bloom and grow big for last few weeks in veg just through in tiger bloom last feeding was quarter strength tiger quarter grow big and a bit more than quarter big bloom as it is pretty week didn't have much fresh air going in to veg chamber but have plenty in flower I think it may be a calcium issue or possibly not enough co2 because they seem to be doing better
 
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Several things to try befor getting over excited. If your plants look healthy outside of what you are seeing in the picts you might try cal/mag to correct any deficiancies. Foxfarm OF is a bit deficiant in that regard. If it persists after applying the cal/mag and waiting to see if it goes away, about a week or so, then the problem isn't ph or cal/mag deficiancy. The necrotic parts of the leaves will not heal so just remove them.

Assuming proper ph after applying cal/mag and the problem persists then I would say it is one of several possibilities.
Possibility 1: did you accidentally spill or spray some water and nutes onto the leaves while lights where on? That will cause localized scorching of the leaves.
Possibility 2: Since you are using nutriants to feed your plants, and they are otherwise healthy, it could be that they are not recieving enough p or k in their diet, I'm not familiar with those you use, so I cant honestly say this is what is happening. As they start their stretch in flower they need extra p and k to keep up with the demands of fast growth. I use a 20,10,20 through most of the growth cycle with micronutriants added as well and it seems to be working. At least for me.
possiblity 3: You may have a fungas. I've had a problem with my leaves showing localized 'scorching' or necrotic areas just like that shown in the pictures. After trying everything else I found through research that it could be a fungas. Serenade garden control fungacide is organic and can be purchaced at home depot or any garden supply center. It is a bacteria that feeds on fungas. I use this on a bi-weekly basis throughout my grow up until 3 weeks befor harvest. It stinks like hell and I don't want it on my finished buds, but other than that it is safe to use throughout the grow. It hasn't completely eliminated the fungas attack, but it slowed it down to managable parimeters. I believe the fungas to be systemic, that is it is within the plant and not just on it. There are other fungacides that have been used with varied success rates, copper based, sulfer based and more that some have reported do the job. But that is bringing out the heavy artillery. Remove any leaves that show signs of attack and dispose of them far away from your grow. Wash your hands befor touching any other plants after doing this as the spores can be transfered just by touching. when your grow is complete, after you harvest, and befor starting another grow, wash everything down with bleach water and soap. EVERYTHING. Then do it again!!!. A sulfer burner is also recomended as the sulfer will kill any fungas still lurking in the nooks and crannies.
If it is a fungas, it could have come from clones recieved from a careless grower, or even on the seeds if seed grown. Or just from the wild brought in on your clothing or shoes.

I'm not saying that this is what is happening in your case, and if it does not get any worse than what you are seeing now, I would not get overly excited as the minimal damage that I see in the picts won't affect the final harvest. Just keep an eye on it and do some research to educate yourself on basic marijuana botony in the meantime.

Sorry I could not be of more help
 
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Itsdoubletime

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Randm said:
Several things to try befor getting over excited. If your plants look healthy outside of what you are seeing in the picts you might try cal/mag to correct any deficiancies. Foxfarm OF is a bit deficiant in that regard. If it persists after applying the cal/mag and waiting to see if it goes away, about a week or so, then the problem isn't ph or cal/mag deficiancy. The necrotic parts of the leaves will not heal so just remove them.

Assuming proper ph after applying cal/mag and the problem persists then I would say it is one of several possibilities.
Possibility 1: did you accidentally spill or spray some water and nutes onto the leaves while lights where on? That will cause localized scorching of the leaves.
Possibility 2: Since you are using nutriants to feed your plants, and they are otherwise healthy, it could be that they are not recieving enough p or k in their diet, I'm not familiar with those you use, so I cant honestly say this is what is happening. As they start their stretch in flower they need extra p and k to keep up with the demands of fast growth. I use a 20,10,20 through most of the growth cycle with micronutriants added as well and it seems to be working. At least for me.
possiblity 3: You may have a fungas. I've had a problem with my leaves showing localized 'scorching' or necrotic areas just like that shown in the pictures. After trying everything else I found through research that it could be a fungas. Serenade garden control fungacide is organic and can be purchaced at home depot or any garden supply center. It is a bacteria that feeds on fungas. I use this on a bi-weekly basis throughout my grow up until 3 weeks befor harvest. It stinks like hell and I don't want it on my finished buds, but other than that it is safe to use throughout the grow. It hasn't completely eliminated the fungas attack, but it slowed it down to managable parimeters. I believe the fungas to be systemic, that is it is within the plant and not just on it. There are other fungacides that have been used with varied success rates, copper based, sulfer based and more that some have reported do the job. But that is bringing out the heavy artillery. Remove any leaves that show signs of attack and dispose of them far away from your grow. Wash your hands befor touching any other plants after doing this as the spores can be transfered just by touching. when your grow is complete, after you harvest, and befor starting another grow, wash everything down with bleach water and soap. EVERYTHING. Then do it again!!!. A sulfer burner is also recomended as the sulfer will kill any fungas still lurking in the nooks and crannies.
If it is a fungas, it could have come from clones recieved from a careless grower, or even on the seeds if seed grown. Or just from the wild brought in on your clothing or shoes.

I'm not saying that this is what is happening in your case, and if it does not get any worse than what you are seeing now, I would not get overly excited as the minimal damage that I see in the picts won't affect the final harvest. Just keep an eye on it and do some research to educate yourself on basic marijuana botony in the meantime.

Sorry I could not be of more help
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Nowthats what I'm talking about lol...thank you very much for the input and help def going to try the cal mag and next feeding after I use the cal mag up the dose of nutes a bit I think shortage of cal mag is causing problems I will also keep a eye on the fungus possibility awesome response sir thank you for your help
 
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Itsdoubletime

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Checked my ph and I watered with 6.5 it came out of the runoff at 5.8 flushed out with 8.0 and got it back up to 6.4 think that's where my problem was it was locking out my nutrients when I feed next time should I feed at 7.0 or higher to try and bring it up further
 
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