Hermies, most have no idea!!!

Kingrow1 said:

We were suggesting that a few male flowers on a female plant does not alter its genetic sex and therefore isnt a correct definition of hemaphodite.

Off course male flowers on female plants happen all the time, no ones suggesting that dosent happen

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But do they? I tried last night to find a study I had read last year that, I believe, stated that after testing many plants that had thrown pistils, not one tested as a true male female hermaphrodite but only female pollen producing one, the actual true male/female plant never found. I'm still trying to find it. As I was looking I saw the whole range of theories and falsehoods that this subject is known for. hopefully someday all the theory and conjecture is finally proven or debunked. FYI I'm not saying it does or doesn't happen, still trying to figure it out lol.

Ilikebigbudsnicnnotlie said:

I have a question as a new grower. I currently have 6 plants 4 being a strain from decent bud I bought and 2 from a known grower. Should state I started with 9 had 3 males I disposed of. Anyways the 4 seeds from my bag weed came out 2 pink bud plants and 2 really frosty. 4 weeks in I notice pollen sacks in the pinks which I removed but noticed 1 opened. 6 days later all my plants are growing seeds. Not a ton just here and there but much more on the pinks. My thoughts were I'm screwed anyways so let em go as I'm growing to just smoke my own. These pics are plants from the same seeds. I'm thinking the pinks were hermies since I found the sacks on them?

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Yes, grow them out!

There is a quiet group of advanced growers who prefer seeded over not! Stronger - longer buzz they say. There is basis in science for that to be true. There are at least 3 cannabinoids found in seeded that are not found in seedless.

You should at least try running a cpl from each plant - After all Gorrila Glue #4 was an accidental pollination...

Budley Doright said:

But do they? I tried last night to find a study I had read last year that, I believe, stated that after testing many plants that had thrown pistils, not one tested as a true male female hermaphrodite but only female pollen producing one, the actual true male/female plant never found. I'm still trying to find it. As I was looking I saw the whole range of theories and falsehoods that this subject is known for. hopefully someday all the theory and conjecture is finally proven or debunked. FYI I'm not saying it does or doesn't happen, still trying to figure it out lol.

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And this brings us right back to what Dannyboy said.....

Dr. Who said:

Um, "Swerve" is the "name" of the Cali Con Breeder. He's not the most popular guy in the industry....Just ask SFV...
It's also a name of a strain.....I really don't want his "Gene"....

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BuD_DizZLe said: ↑
According to the research I just did on my latest seed purchase from Cali-Connection, The amino acid in question is known as the "Swerve" gene


I think he knows this, and was making funny, concerning the frequent occurrence of sexual confusion he experiences while working with their gear ? could be wrong, but I lol'd when I saw the @BuD_DizZLe post

chemphlegm said:

BuD_DizZLe said: ↑
According to the research I just did on my latest seed purchase from Cali-Connection, The amino acid in question is known as the "Swerve" gene


I think he knows this, and was making funny, concerning the frequent occurrence of sexual confusion he experiences while working with their gear ? could be wrong, but I lol'd when I saw the @BuD_DizZLe post

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Like I said, "I still don't want his "gene".

all drama aside I picked up a tahoe og from him years ago. That was the first plant I saw sexual confusion expressed.
I picked up a bottle of Reverse followed directions and treated fan leaves one time. I still run clones from clones years later with no issue. That Tahoe is in our top 7 of all time still.

be a real service for readers if someone could reverse engineer an alternative to Reverse, I think its off the market now. I have a full bottle prolly last me forever, only needed a few drops to do the job one time, my only time..... not so bad considering the frequency of this confusion reported here with differing seed producers gear.

When I first used cannabis every bag was seeded. A lot of the cheaper weed was heavily seeded border weed. The elite stuff was also seeded but lightly so from Columbia or southern Mexico as well as Nam and Thai weed. Back then many of those buds were narrow and airy but some was psycofuckindelic. Seeds were much more explosive also.

Many times I have seeds in a plant now but not more than a half dozen. Seeded weed is a different experience than sensimilla. The taste has a hint of bitterness and onset is very quick. The little branches in the buds get heavier.

Another thing was that every bag had little sticks that would reliably poke a hole in your little joint. Real sativas have a lot of little leaves on stems going up the bud, and most strains today are part Indica. No leaves on stems in the bud.

I never smoked seedless until 15 years ago. Cannabis is a survivor and if conditions aren't right for reproducing, it will take care of things itself! Love this plant.

chemphlegm said:

all drama aside I picked up a tahoe og from him years ago. That was the first plant I saw sexual confusion expressed.
I picked up a bottle of Reverse followed directions and treated fan leaves one time. I still run clones from clones years later with no issue. That Tahoe is in our top 7 of all time still.

be a real service for readers if someone could reverse engineer an alternative to Reverse, I think its off the market now. I have a full bottle prolly last me forever, only needed a few drops to do the job one time, my only time..... not so bad considering the frequency of this confusion reported here with differing seed producers gear.

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The Dutch Masters shit?

No thanks! Removed from the market because it can cause cancer! The "active" ingr, really causes cancer.....Gotta use it or it don't work....So, not happening...

Dr. Who said:

The Dutch Masters shit?

No thanks! Removed from the market because it can cause cancer! The "active" ingr, really causes cancer.....Gotta use it or it don't work....So, not happening...

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do you have link to this information? plant lipids cause cancer? or do they lie on the ingredients? say it isnt so.

-hid lights cause cancer , take precautions in the grow room

chemphlegm said:

do you have link to this information? plant lipids cause cancer? or do they lie on the ingredients? say it isnt so.

-hid lights cause cancer , take precautions in the grow room

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This is being used now
http://growershouse.com/optic-foliar-switch-reverse-nutrient

Hmm, not cancer.....maybe political hyperbol?

msds looks hidden?

I asked my patients if they would rather have more potent seeded marijuana deliveries and they laughed a loud NO.
I prefer seedless marijuana also, especially if I paid for it.

pips, meh

Dr. Who said:

Yes, grow them out!

There is a quiet group of advanced growers who prefer seeded over not! Stronger - longer buzz they say. There is basis in science for that to be true. There are at least 3 cannabinoids found in seeded that are not found in seedless.

You should at least try running a cpl from each plant - After all Gorrila Glue #4 was an accidental pollination...

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Do you have a link proving the 3 cannabanoids?

From my research after hearing this on another website (and only there) I found that only in a few instances in testing male plants had equal or more THC. (Can't find more cannabanoid info on this)

In most tests the male only had equal THC to the female leaves.

they are discovering more cannabanoids in marijuana as science advances so I don't see how this info about males having more is even tested properly.

MichiganMedGrower said:

Do you have a link proving the 3 cannabanoids?

From my research after hearing this on another website (and only there) I found that only in a few instances in testing male plants had equal or more THC. (Can't find more cannabanoid info on this)

In most tests the male only had equal THC to the female leaves.

they are discovering more cannabanoids in marijuana as science advances so I don't see how this info about males having more is even tested properly.

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I got that info from UB some years back and it's about seeded female plants vs. Sensi - not males! That's where that one place got that info to. (as far as I know).

are we saying that a seeded bud, busted and tested has more cbd's than a non seeded bud on the same plant? thats interesting fodder

MichiganMedGrower said:

Do you have a link proving the 3 cannabanoids?

From my research after hearing this on another website (and only there) I found that only in a few instances in testing male plants had equal or more THC. (Can't find more cannabanoid info on this)

In most tests the male only had equal THC to the female leaves.

they are discovering more cannabanoids in marijuana as science advances so I don't see how this info about males having more is even tested properly.

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He's not saying males. He's saying female plants with seeds. Nobody really grows a male to smoke do they?

Dr. Who said:

Yes, grow them out!

There is a quiet group of advanced growers who prefer seeded over not! Stronger - longer buzz they say. There is basis in science for that to be true. There are at least 3 cannabinoids found in seeded that are not found in seedless.

You should at least try running a cpl from each plant - After all Gorrila Glue #4 was an accidental pollination...

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I'm letting all 6 go this time since they are almost 5 weeks into flowering and all have been pollinated. I'm just excited to grow my own smoke now that's it's legal where I live.

Ilikebigbudsnicnnotlie said:

I'm letting all 6 go this time since they are almost 5 weeks into flowering and all have been pollinated. I'm just excited to grow my own smoke now that's it's legal where I live.

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purposeful pollination?

chemphlegm said:

purposeful pollination?

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Unfortunately not. 2 of my plants grew male parts 3-4 weeks into flowering. I never thought to look for it so by time I noticed the polin sacks one or two had opened already. I hoped for the best but got the worst. Live and learn I didn't expect it to be easy.

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I got that info from UB some years back and it's about seeded female plants vs. Sensi - not males! That's where that one place got that info to. (as far as I know).

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I only found tests on male vs female. I looked more but can not find any source of this info.