herming autoflowers

i don't want to buy a pack of 5 autoflower seeds and pay for a next batch. can anyone help me with a fool proof way to herm one of my autos to give me seeds for a while? haaaayyeeellp!

Earth.

Dont they have this chemical u cant put on a stem or two to get male flowers...read on it i read soomthing on that a year or so ago...hope iman helped somewat

well since there are enough readers and no responders i thought i'd shed light on my own question.

thanks goes to R3AP3R and Yourlocal420 for the knowledge and understanding.

Since you cannot clone autoflowers and constantly having to remove males from your garden, the best way to go about having an easier harvest would be to produce femanized seeds. and since the autoflowering ruderalis species are used to having sunlight all day, inducing them to turn hermaphrodite would seem pretty troublesome. but the solution to this problem is something i'd never guess.

"Let her go till she spits bananas" -R3

Turns out that female autoflowering strains if let to grow past their flowering phase automatically grow pollensacks. presto! no need to stress a plant to herm, and you can collect fem pollen to produce femanized seeds. there are plenty of other threads explain how to collect pollen and how to pollinate a plant for seeds so theres no need for me to reinvent the wheel. I hope this info helps anyone as much as it has helped me.

Happy Weeding.

Earth

Damn thats great I didn't know that. Not to find some nice auto-flower strains. +REP for answering your own question.

I just do it the old fashioned way. keep the dominant male and pollinate my dominant fem. You don't have to pollinate the entire plant. One good bud site will do.

Earthling said:

"Let her go till she spits bananas" -R3

Turns out that female autoflowering strains if let to grow past their flowering phase automatically grow pollensacks.
Earth

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Hi,

Sorry to bring up this old thread. Is this true 100% of the time? I can't seem to find any other information on this.

Do you need to change the lighting schedule or anything?

Anyone with prior experience please feel free to chime in. Don't think I want to be ordering seeds every couple of months...

Earthling said:

well since there are enough readers and no responders i thought i'd shed light on my own question.

thanks goes to R3AP3R and Yourlocal420 for the knowledge and understanding.

Since you cannot clone autoflowers and constantly having to remove males from your garden, the best way to go about having an easier harvest would be to produce femanized seeds. and since the autoflowering ruderalis species are used to having sunlight all day, inducing them to turn hermaphrodite would seem pretty troublesome. but the solution to this problem is something i'd never guess.

"Let her go till she spits bananas" -R3

Turns out that female autoflowering strains if let to grow past their flowering phase automatically grow pollensacks. presto! no need to stress a plant to herm, and you can collect fem pollen to produce femanized seeds. there are plenty of other threads explain how to collect pollen and how to pollinate a plant for seeds so theres no need for me to reinvent the wheel. I hope this info helps anyone as much as it has helped me.

Happy Weeding.

Earth

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Really? that's good to know.

I've let LR#1 go as far as 78 days and never seen a single banana.

v12xjs said:

I've let LR#1 go as far as 78 days and never seen a single banana.

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yeah....kind of sounded too good to be true...

Kiara said:

yeah....kind of sounded too good to be true...

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ive been researching it myself and have found a lot of info on it. 78 days is only bout 11 weeks i heard that it has to be around 2 weeks over expected harvest date so about 84 days or more, apparently its an emergency trait of the plant so it will reproduce asexually to keep the strain alive. and even if it is all bullshit your bound to get atleast one male outa that pack so pollinate 1 female and youll have enough for another grow and some.

Most strains will pop some male flowers very late in their life.

Like the man said... "Let her go till she pops Banana's"

And all/most should be Feminized seeds as their are no male genes invloved.

i am pretty sure that the female plant will create seed on the way to its death. it is the plants purpose in life to re-create the strain.

Henk admits that when Dutch Passion first released feminized seeds in November 1998, many people were skeptical.
"It was very difficult to make these seeds," he explained. "There were several years of experiments that went into this. At first, we relied on the fact that if you let females flower a long time without getting pollen, near the end of their life cycle some will try to pollinate themselves. But this did not produce a reliable amount of pollen. Then, we tried hormone and chemical agents. The hormone produced pollen, but it also affected the plants in other ways that we didn't like. We tried other applications, and found some that could change basic female plants into plants that produced pollen, which we then used to fertilize other 100% female plants to produce what we used to call ?female seeds.'
"A lot of people think we have created hermaphrodites, but we take 100% female clones, and apply a safe chemical so the clones produce abundant male flowers. Then we take that pollen and fertilize other females with it. Seeds from this method will usually grow out female.
"In the beginning, some people were telling us that the seeds weren't producing all females, but we've discovered some strains don't work well with this process, and some of the success depends on the way they're grown. Now, we aren't getting those complaints. I sell a guy 300 seeds, and 298 of them grow out female. We are seeing that level of reliability."

i read about this for normal strains but didn't see any for autoflowers. also, does the plant at the end of the lifecycle produce seeds or pollen?
the original post regarding this mentioned seeds itself, not pollen...

i'm a little confused. because i thought pollen was the ballsack things that you harvest and then use a paintbrush to apply on female buds to produce seeds...

and seeds was well....seeds...

uhhhh. any one else catch the part about clones. i still have not read any real reason why the autos cant be cloned.i have read " all plants can be cloned no mater what stage of growth."

since you can't reveg autoflowers, if you decide to take clones they will not become very big, thus it is still more productive to harvest a whole plant than to try and take clones from an autoflower to multiply your harvest.

you probably CAN clone an autoflower, but by the time its big enough to get a clone off it, it'll already be flowering. the clone is the same age as the mother plant. it would spend about the next two weeks or so rooting, and then has a couple weeks left of flowering. by this point, you'll be lucky to get an eighth off that clone.

ahh. i wasnt thinking striaght. that makes perfect sense

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ive been researching it myself and have found a lot of info on it. 78 days is only bout 11 weeks i heard that it has to be around 2 weeks over expected harvest date so about 84 days or more, apparently its an emergency trait of the plant so it will reproduce asexually to keep the strain alive. and even if it is all bullshit your bound to get atleast one male outa that pack so pollinate 1 female and youll have enough for another grow and some.

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Sorry m8. Thought I mentioned it was LR#1 I let go to 78 days, which is a little over 3 weeks past it's due date.
TBH even if it had put out bananas at that stage, the plant was virtually spent in every aspect. I strongly doubt it would have been able to produce any seeds, and even if it did, it would not have survived another couple of weeks in order to mature those seeds.
Just for info, I've regularly taken LR#2 to 85 or 86 days and again I never saw a single banana.