Heroin Weed Sex ARGH!

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Haddaway

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cannabisguru said:
the hell man...

your telling this kid to get off the stuff hes' doing.. but yet, your telling him to go snort some ketamine? That's the most ignorant thing.. no, wait, its ONE OF the few more ignorant statements that I've seen made here on RIU.

The best thing for him to do, is get on SUBOXONE or methadone.. keep smoking cannabis.. and leave it at that. Fuck heroin, meth, and crack. Those three are the three drugs that will literally grab your soul, rip it apart.. and then burn it into ashes... and you'll never get it back, you'll never be the same person again.. you'll never be the person you were, before you started using, and that's a proven fact because those drugs actually change your brain chemistry.. it switches things up including your personality. Those are the drugs that are killing people.. including some of the new generations. Those are the three drugs that I actually support the DEA and police on, on getting those off the streets.. because again, those are the hardcore street drugs that are killing people left and right.. the people that don't die from the addictions of these drugs.. will def. become an addict.. and will never be the same person that they were, before they started using the drug(s).

My message is for the youngsters around here.. and you know who you are. My message to you kids and young teens... stay AWAY from heroin, meth and crack. If you want to experiment with LSD (acid); shrooms; cannabis.. then that's fine. Nothing wrong with wanting to just chill and relax and trip every now and then.

anyhow, just stay away from the hardcore drugs kids.

peace.
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What you probably don't know is that Ketamine is an AMAZING drug that has many anti-addictive properties (makes you wanna stop using drugs, period.) It practically cures withdrawal for the time you are on it and it is the next best thing to ibogaine for addiction therapy (besides ibogaine analogs that act similarly). It also is 100x more practical as it doesn't cost over a thousand dollars for one dose! Ket has helped many people get through this, so no I don't think his suggestion was idiotic, but was in fact a well-meaning tip.

Knowledge about the substances is much better than blindly following what you think is true. Research is your friend and I mean UNBIASED research.
 
bicycleday

bicycleday

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Someone mentioned brown.. well its mainly white/beige where I am from

For some reason smack has never really been an addiction for me, and I know it irks people that have been addicted to it, that I can use it casually and they can't, but for some reason I can... Stimulants on the other hand well, that is my achilles... It only really "rapes my soul" the first few days after a binge, and then I can return to "normal", the cravings and the want is still there but I can rise above it, but the first couple of "clean" days where sex and weed does nothing for me really fucking annoys me...

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bicycleday

bicycleday

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God I wish I had the above picture back lol. Got some rare brown on the w/end when this was gone also mmmmm.
I smoked a bit of weed and was drinking heavily and I even managed to eat food (had a going away dinner party for my sister at a turkish restaurant with belly dancers and all), but I actually managed to eat! mind you I was the first to order and get my food, but the last to finish out of about 30people, but noone noticed and just thought I was drunk. I was just suprised at my ability to eat and maintain such a semblance of normality!
 
Dankster4Life

Dankster4Life

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If you can hold on to it for a rainy day bro i don't think your that bad off.Not sayin it's all good but i would think that if you were really out there on it you wouldn't be able to keep you last bit around till the weekend ya know?Didn't you say that in another thread to me about that pic?,said you was holdin on to it?

You must have some kind of self discipline inside some where.Your willing to talk about it so you atleast recognize.

Will power bro.........i think ya can do it.
 
Tenner

Tenner

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I agree with a lot that was said but I would just like to say that my parents were using a lot of drugs at the time. Period of 8 years... Meth, crack, heroin and syringes. They haven`t lost their souls I can tell you that. 20 years clean of everything they even quit cigarettes. Started smoking weed a few years ago and quit that but they are both smoking cigs now.

They did it with strong sleeping pills, a change of country, having kids and starting a business (they had money from dealing).

I don`t like the hopeless vibe in these topics. Everything can regenerate and you can do it. Read up on stories of how others did it. Former smack addicts running their first marathon and crossing the finish line with their child and wife watching.

My point is you need long term goals and a change of interests to do this, not just the "same old"

If you fancy anything opiate feeling Kratom is a pretty good substitute and its not an opiate. The fact that you have to chug some horrible tea down to get there makes it less of an abuse. Smack must be too easy just set the foil or line up and your go for the best.

Using Ketamine, Kratom and Cannabis is fine to get by but your mentality is going to remain the same that way and thats the problem. If your mindset just wants to catch a buzz your always going to know whats best to catch that buzz.

I say no soul or character is ever lost, thats my main point.
 
high|hgih

high|hgih

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Haha heroin :p just be careful, people act like its a demon but I honestly was hooked on it pretty good for a few weeks, THAT was terrible. But I've used it recreationally (yes its possible) since then, just as a chiller. Like if I'm mega depressed and anxious and I got nothin to do no work or anything, sitting down to some dope smokin and tv watchin is beautiful! Especially when weed is added to that.. I mean just be careful man, I wouldnt DARE type or do work on the shit. When I was on it I lost my job, got another one thanks to a friend, later got fired from that one for being 'obviously intoxicated' as it was put. My fucking manager GAVE me ecstacy. He didn't fire me, the other manager did.. Fucking GAH

Anyways, so I'm confused did you have sex on heroin? If so right on xD I never care about sex on the shit, but I'm sure a very very long soft bj would be the shizznitz!
 
PIPBoy2000

PIPBoy2000

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I have to object and say that Suboxone itself is harder to quit since the withdrawals are harder and more intense than pure opiate withdrawals such as heroin or in my case, oxycodone. Suboxone sucks, opiates suck, just toke a bongload and if you get the urge to do use, toke another bongload!
 
bicycleday

bicycleday

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I think some people catch my thread and some don't. Some of it is in jest and some of it is serious ;)

Like I said, it annoys some people that I can use substances recreationally these days, whereas others can't. I can sit on chemicals knowing that they are there and not use them. I can even go a few days here and there without weed to ease the tolerance, so that when I do smoke it smashes me, mind you I am usually on something of some sort. I do have a lot of willpower these days but that only came through dark times, age and wisdom.

If I had of started a thread "Herion is great" it would be 50pages long by now with everyone saying blah bad blah death blah blah, I know all of that, I've seen it firsthand, I am smarter these days. I can have an awesome weekend on it all weekend but then not use for weeks/months, but I hate the apathy that you feel for those first couple of clean days (or maybe I actually enjoy it as another facet of the whole drug experience these days, who knows)

Dankster4Life said:
If you can hold on to it for a rainy day bro i don't think your that bad off.Not sayin it's all good but i would think that if you were really out there on it you wouldn't be able to keep you last bit around till the weekend ya know?Didn't you say that in another thread to me about that pic?,said you was holdin on to it?

You must have some kind of self discipline inside some where.Your willing to talk about it so you atleast recognize.

Will power bro.........i think ya can do it.
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Amen bro, you saw the big picture. In the right circumstances it can be awesome, but it depends on your experience and your ability to be able to control the drug and not let it control you.
 
bicycleday

bicycleday

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Haddaway said:
What you probably don't know is that Ketamine is an AMAZING drug that has many anti-addictive properties (makes you wanna stop using drugs, period.) It practically cures withdrawal for the time you are on it and it is the next best thing to ibogaine for addiction therapy (besides ibogaine analogs that act similarly). It also is 100x more practical as it doesn't cost over a thousand dollars for one dose! Ket has helped many people get through this, so no I don't think his suggestion was idiotic, but was in fact a well-meaning tip.

Knowledge about the substances is much better than blindly following what you think is true. Research is your friend and I mean UNBIASED research.
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Would plugging smack instead be better?
 
Dankster4Life

Dankster4Life

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I'm a crack HATER.

I knew a guy who's dad smoked crack for 16 yrs.Bills were paid,always plenty of food in the house and the kids had clothes on their backs.Said his dad would spend $50 on the weekend on some rocks some weekends it was only 10 or 15 bucks.He only spent what ever xtra cash he had.

Not your typical crack user story.Some can do it......some can't.

My 2 cents that'll more than likely get shunned upon......but i don't really give a shit as i'm just a stupid human like the rest of the planet.

I feel we should all be able to do what we want as long as it does not negatively affect others.But unfortunately some hard drugs......affect others,so i wish they weren't even around.I would rather give up some thing that "I" may like or want if it is only going to bring me or others down.

Unfortunately drugs are not for every one.
 
Nvr2Stond

Nvr2Stond

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have an update for us bicycle?

I was hooked on smack for several years, injecting for 90% of the time. Recently got off of suboxone, was much harder than I thought it would be.

Anyways hope everything is going smoothly and smack-free for ya!!
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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I don't dig my face in the brown nor my veins. But I'm sure it's one hell of a habit to quit. The novelty of pleasure whether from sex or a drug is a heralding mistress of inner conflict, as how can one deny something that reaps so much pleasure in return? You may have kicked the sweats and fevers a long time ago; but the point of the matter, it's always the psychological manufacturing of ones thoughts that brings one back into the addiction!
 
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InCognition

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bicycleday said:
I think some people catch my thread and some don't. Some of it is in jest and some of it is serious ;)

Like I said, it annoys some people that I can use substances recreationally these days, whereas others can't. I can sit on chemicals knowing that they are there and not use them. I can even go a few days here and there without weed to ease the tolerance, so that when I do smoke it smashes me, mind you I am usually on something of some sort. I do have a lot of willpower these days but that only came through dark times, age and wisdom.

If I had of started a thread "Herion is great" it would be 50pages long by now with everyone saying blah bad blah death blah blah, I know all of that, I've seen it firsthand, I am smarter these days. I can have an awesome weekend on it all weekend but then not use for weeks/months, but I hate the apathy that you feel for those first couple of clean days (or maybe I actually enjoy it as another facet of the whole drug experience these days, who knows)



Amen bro, you saw the big picture. In the right circumstances it can be awesome, but it depends on your experience and your ability to be able to control the drug and not let it control you.
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I completely agree. People demonize any drug that can cause an addiction. While some are worse than others in terms of their effects on health, I find most the people who post against these drugs are currently or were previously addicts, or those who have never done the drug, but have judged another addict, or they simply demonize it out of their own perspective.

I've done various opiates many times, and not once has any sort of addiction even crossed into my agenda or life.

People can be addicts of anything. Some addictions are physical, all addictions are mental. Ultimately to become physically addicted to drugs, one has to cross the mental threshold of being mentally addicted. Those who judge or demonize addictive drugs do not have a whole perspective on what the word "addiction" means in it's entirety, because if they did they would never demonize a drug that has the capability of being used recreationally, but is far too often abused. Rather, they should demonize the person for abusing that drug.

A drug doesn't force a person to use or abuse, a person forces a drug to be used or abused.
 
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