hey you science bros...need answer
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bilbobaggins
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i know for a fact THC is broken down with fat, alcohol, and heat.. people who claim to just have eaten weed and gotten a buzz i laugh at.. waste of weed lol
Eat a dank 10 grams of weed bro, I guarantee youll get lit off yer ass. The high will last alot longer too.
This is meant to be a scientific question. Not really a who ate how much thread...
If we could get back to the questions asked... I'm trying to find out the above info...THC, CBN, Etc. What are the main alkaloids in weed?
Which one is associated to Hunger?
Which one is associated with laughter?
Are the alkaloids like THC solvent in water, oil, alcohol, vineager?
bilbobaggins
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resin is burned weed.. the thc has been broken down by heat previously.. as for the cbn's im not sure which triggers what.. im curious as well
bilbobaggins
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no thanks! i'd rather smoke it, itll last a lot longer that way, you made my point about a waste of weed..
WTF! Burned weed? I don't know where you learned how resin is made but I'm not talking about the tar crap you get cleaning out pipes and bongs. Your ignorance is astounding!
On topic: afaik none of the cannabinoids have been exclusively linked to causing hunger/munchies. from wiki :
Ghost420
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like the above poster said the active ingreedent in pot THC effect the cannoboid system in the brain located withnin the hippocampus. thus we would classify it the "endocannoboid" system resposiabe for intoxication. cannaboids are a natturally occuring substance found in the body. they effect memory appitite sexual arousal and other stimuli is the brain. to to ask what effects feeling good as opposed to hunger is not a valid question because THC as a whole does all of these things. CBN occurs when THC breaks down. CBN is actually a cannoboid aggoinest it helps with pain but not getting high.
so the famous dabate on why indicas and sativas make you feel different bucause there are so many counted and un accounted cannaoid compounds that cause effects to vary from strand to strand.
so the famous dabate on why indicas and sativas make you feel different bucause there are so many counted and un accounted cannaoid compounds that cause effects to vary from strand to strand.
bilbobaggins
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ok asshat.. i guess you should have clarified moreWTF! Burned weed? I don't know where you learned how resin is made but I'm not talking about the tar crap you get cleaning out pipes and bongs. Your ignorance is astounding!
On topic: afaik none of the cannabinoids have been exclusively linked to causing hunger/munchies. from wiki :
anotherchance
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some growers i know that have only one fussy client screwed up there grow and dumped it on me so i turned it into butter cause there was way to much of it for me to dry out and it came in several sweaty garbage bags. so i made cookies out of it and have been eating them for several years now and they work every time so me thinks your hypothesis has holes in it
bilbobaggins
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what do you think butter is bro? and then baking them? come on now, that two of the three...
Thundercat
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My 2 cents....It is my understanding, that THC is associated with the laughter, and the being "high" where as CBN is what provides the pain relieve, and what makes you sleepy as hell. Thats why the harvest window is important. You want to maximize the THC, and optimize the CBN. As far as I'm concerned you want the maximum amount of THC on your plants. But you don't nessecarly want the most CBN possible, you want the optimum amount for the effect you want from your weed. If you was growing for medical use, you may want to let your plants go a week longer, to increase the CBN content and in turn the pain relief. Where as if you are looking to get a good morning weed that won't put you on the couch passed out by noon, you might want to harvest a few days earlier. I agree, and don't believe that either of these is associated with the munchies, though I may be wrong. Peace
BigBudBalls
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Just a Q.
Baking with pot/hash/THC.
I thought THC started to breakdown at over 90F. Baking at 350F can't be a great thing for th THC.
What am I missing?
Baking with pot/hash/THC.
I thought THC started to breakdown at over 90F. Baking at 350F can't be a great thing for th THC.
What am I missing?
Thundercat
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Bilbo, I'm not being an ass, but don't say things are facts that are not.
First THC is not broken down with fat, alcohol, and heat, it is soluble in fat and alcohol. But that is rather differant then broken down. When it is disolved, it still maintains its "goodness". That is why/how you can make hash with differant techniques, and also alcohol extraction techs. This is also why you can make canna-butter. The THC remains intact but is disolved into the oil/fat, and then can be baked.
Now secondly, heat does "breakdown" THC, that is one big reason you don't want to "quick dry" buds in the oven or microwave unless you have to. They lose potency.
Like is said not being an ass, but get it straight, or just don't say its "a fact". I by no means know everything, nor do I claim to. However, if i'm uncertain about something, I state I may be wrong, or I ask some one that does know.
thelastpirate
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+Rep JDGaf for that excellent find!!!
Uncle Bilbo,You started out great, then made a complete fool out of yourself. Do you think that an entire generation got together and made up the whole "pot brownies" thing? They did, and they did it just to fuck with you! I have personally taken a bag (ounce) of mexican dirt weed (thats what we called schwag back before wheels were round) and made brownies. Not only did it totally fuck us up (REALLY stoned) I was high as hell for about 8 hours and woke up high the next morning. Making brownies is a great diversion to smoking!
You'll probably be the one who says you can't get a buzz smoking males, or leaves. I'd love to be there when you manicure.
Oh, and THC is oil and alcohol SOLUBLE. It is just dissolved not broken down. And it is stored by the body in fatty tissue. THC does "break down" into other alkaloids, but by another process. Heat and light definitely come into play there.
Granted, THC is activated by heat, and that temperature is just below the combustion point. Thats how a vaporizer works. Get it just hot enough to activate the pot, but not enough to actually burn. Heat from the oven doesn't seem to affect it in any way but good. Thats not science I'm quoting, it's personal experience, and LOTS of it.
To my knowledge, there hasn't been that in depth research to determine which effect is caused by which alkaloid. I'm sure that there are way too many variables to determine that. It would be really cool tho, we could breed strains that could be zeroed in on what we wanted. Personally, I'd get rid of that whole cottonmouth thing. Med people could not only get pain relief, they could make even the sickest chemo patient hungry and eat.
Thundercat
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Baking it prolly does damage it some, but I imagine that it must be somewhat protected by what you cook it in perhaps. I'm not sure why it works,but it works thats for sure. I can say I've had several batchs of cookies that I didn't really feel anything off of, but I've had others that were made with a good quantity of HIGH grade buds. I think for it to be very effective, you need more weed, and it needs to be good inorder to compensate for being cooked.
omnombudsman
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Haha, you guys are all bitching at each other so much. There is a clear cut right and wrong answer in this situation, however.
No, you can't just eat a nug of weed and get high. It can't happen.
In order to make THC psychoactive, it has to be decarboxylated; basically, it has to be heated to a certain temperature before it gets you high. BigBudBalls all ready brought that up.
That's why brownies, cookies, and the whole butter-making process are all effective methods of getting high; similarly, resin, because it has been burned, could get you high if you ate it. FDD has a thread on making edible hash by baking it in the oven, too.
Secondly, THC is soluble in oil, fat, etc; they don't break it down, but it stays in solution with them; again, this is how weed butter works. Unfortunately, THC is not water soluble, which is why weed tea does not work.
No, you can't just eat a nug of weed and get high. It can't happen.
In order to make THC psychoactive, it has to be decarboxylated; basically, it has to be heated to a certain temperature before it gets you high. BigBudBalls all ready brought that up.
That's why brownies, cookies, and the whole butter-making process are all effective methods of getting high; similarly, resin, because it has been burned, could get you high if you ate it. FDD has a thread on making edible hash by baking it in the oven, too.
Secondly, THC is soluble in oil, fat, etc; they don't break it down, but it stays in solution with them; again, this is how weed butter works. Unfortunately, THC is not water soluble, which is why weed tea does not work.
Thundercat
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omnombudsman, I think that is pretty much what I said. Though I was unaware that the heat is what activated the cannaboids. Thanks, that makes sense.
anotherchance
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the cookies work for me every time and im not that easy to get stoned