Hidden Breeders

Genetics:Grandiflora Genetics
Bank: treestarseedbank
Grandiflora is know for their E85 and Project 4516. A pack of the 4516 is about to sell on an auction site (10 Fems for 3000$) but you can pick up hybrids through a company called (Lit Farms- they do the actual breeding for Grandi.)

Genetics: Skunkhouse Genetics
Bank: Skunkhouseseeds.com
Known for Modified Banana and Donny Burger (Seed form GMO) packs are around 200$ but Oregon elite seeds was just doin 50% off and idk if they still are. On their site they say 30%+ THC on all strains (Possible)

Genetics: BeLeaf
Bank: Boomfiya
This is a big one and my favorite right now. clones and seeds. They have genetics from 100-10,000 and pheno hunt an act of 30,000 phenos annually. They also do feminized seeds for around 200~ that I’ve never seen anything but amazing from.

Genetics: Square One
Bank: Good Luck (Seriously, hard to find legit vendors who do state to state. You got to go to a vendor in their state) Known for Banana Butter Cream and Kush Babies (a 10 pack of Kush babies sold for 25,000$ (Yes that’s a comma) and I still hadn’t heard about em till a friend told me.

Genetics: Compound
Bank: multiple
This one is kind of known but I still feel like they’re unappreciated for how good they are. Regularly they put out genetics that everyone misses, then after people hear about the hype you end up having to pay 500-1k on an auction site.


Genetics: TGA Subcool
Bank: Check thread on here.
Midweek song is carrying the last of the breeder pack regs. 200$ After shipping to get the last 5 Reg Jesus OG. You gotta ship cash but SWIM say it works. You can buy 15 regular seeds from the bulk project his breeders used to run for him for much cheaper. Like 100$ for 15 seeds. The company stated they will be switching to feminized seeds to lock down Subcools Genetics (to preserve them) but if you want regular seeds. Supplies are limited. RIP to a King.

Genetics:GooeyBreeder
Bank: Check Thread
Works with afgooey and a lot of dark spectrum colored plants. Check their IG. In all regards a breeder. Affordable as well. Awesome people.

Beleaf actually turned me on to the creature s1 a while ago. Absolute frost monster! Once they officially launched and I saw the cost for their seeds, I couldn't bring myself to pay their prices. If I grew for sale.... maybe. But I grow for my wife and feel the cost heavily outweighs the need. The other breeders you mentioned are pretty good too, especially compound.

Dontjudgeme said:

Beleaf actually turned me on to the creature s1 a while ago. Absolute frost monster! Once they officially launched and I saw the cost for their seeds, I couldn't bring myself to pay their prices. If I grew for sale.... maybe. But I grow for my wife and feel the cost heavily outweighs the need. The other breeders you mentioned are pretty good too, especially compound.

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There is a huge amount of breeders out there. The market is too saturated. 250-1K from them is modest in my opinion. I’d spend 1K on electric and supplies running my own pheno hunt. The list price after initial payment drops to 20$ per. (Example 500 for strain/20 per clone). If you got the space though a hunt is rewarding as a grower. Especially when your cut receives local recognition. There are a lot of vendors for clones at lower rates. As well as 3rd party vendors who sell clones from tissue cultured cuts at discounted rates. Never understood the comparison that a pheno hunt is cheaper. Especially if you grow in soil. 4-5 months for the hunt with a seed return. Even a quick approach: clone at week 3, 1 week cloning, 10 week flower on clone For my room is 700$ in electric plus whatever else I spend not to mention the work. I could get 2 cycles of meds in that time. Some strains can’t be bought. Sometimes you gotta make your own F2s and pheno hunt a parent dominant pheno. Whatever works for each persons situation. Open Source Information and all that though.

You are right though. Most situations wouldn’t call for it. I grow what I like. 25K for a pack of seeds sounds like some nonsense to me. That bud better make me able to hear colors.

Kami Samurai said:

You are right though. Most situations wouldn’t call for it. I grow what I like. 25K for a pack of seeds sounds like some nonsense to me. That bud better make me able to hear colors.

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Hahaha, hear colors. I do understand the hunting aspect, and the cost associated with it, but it just doesn't apply to my personal reason for growing. I'm fortunate enough to get really good cuts from friends, even though I could afford to buy them myself. Most of them are outdoor growers and they want to see the difference from an indoor harvest compared to outdoor. So a free cut at the cost of them trying to guage a difference is worth it in my book. Good luck with the hunting, and always, happy growing!

Anyone that pays that kind of money for some seeds is a brain dead idiot. There isn't a single strain on the planet worth close to those prices.

Claims of THC levels are meaningless and if they don't bother to put up lab results that likely means they're full of it and are just pulling numbers out of thin air.

What a joke the seed game has turned into. What's even more appalling is that there are people that think any of this stuff is worth what they're charging. This cut that cut blah blah blah. Most of the clowns out there are not breeders anyway. Just hyped pollen chuckers that spend more time building up their social media following than anything else.

xtsho said:

Anyone that pays that kind of money for some seeds is a brain dead idiot. There isn't a single strain on the planet worth close to those prices.

Claims of THC levels are meaningless and if they don't bother to put up lab results that likely means they're full of it and are just pulling numbers out of thin air.

What a joke the seed game has turned into. What's even more appalling is that there are people that think any of this stuff is worth what they're charging. This cut that cut blah blah blah. Most of the clowns out there are not breeders anyway. Just hyped pollen chuckers that spend more time building up their social media following than anything else.

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Agreed.

skunkhouse and ObSol got the 40% claims from Shango and Stizzy who grew out their genetics. Yeah I listed affordable options for everyone except square one. Like Grandiflora does drops of M85 and Project 4516 for like 600-1500$ a box. But Lit Farms does the actual breeding and sell packs for 150$ for strains like Unicorn Poop x Project 4516 135$ on this pack considering the Unicorn Poop hybrids from thug pug are 300-500. Beleaf does new drops of seeds for 125$ and they give their customers freebies (I’ve even seen a 10,000$ dip n Stix gifted to their long time customer (don’t expect it to happen)

This stuff is silly like a cartoon.

Shango and Stizzy, Unicorn Poop, Dip n Stix.

Funny stuff.

xtsho said:

This stuff is silly like a cartoon.

Shango and Stizzy, Unicorn Poop, Dip n Stix.

Funny stuff.

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Let us not stop there lol
Biggest joke… (hardly)

HydroKid239 said:

Let us not stop there lol View attachment 5160603
Biggest joke… (hardly)

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Good grief.

Oh damn! They're releasing the Black Stallion Pheno! Making coffee right now so I can stay up and make sure I don't miss the drop. Credit card out and browser open on five different computers. I can't miss out on this. It's Taz's cut as well!

This is just so stupid. How the hell did this happen? How could any adult take this stuff seriously?

Shango & Stiiizy are Breeders and Companies. One of em has been doing Commercial Aquaponics for more than a decade before legalization. Both of them are record holders and have won a lot of awards. Things are changing OG. Nothing to do about it. It’s going where the consumer market drives it. Just an unavoidable fact, breeders are gonna sell what the consumer request. This is what people request these days. There will always be a market for OG breeders gear and Old school genetics but that’s becoming more niche. Everyone wants the newest fire especially a vastly uneducated market. Whatever They’re favorite artist promotes. It’s been that was since the beginning.