High ph after compost feeding

Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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Hollatchaboy said:
I started off with ffhf but with everything I've added, it's not really ffhf anymore. Lol....I just got an earth box, and I've ordered bas 3.0 to start it off. I'm a bas junkie. Takes the guesswork out of it for me, but you can source everything yourself if you want to save money. Bas can be a lil pricey.
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i would build soil again but I have too many plants to mess with it anymore. All my soil I get is from Morgan composting my own custom blend. I get 6yds of it every month or so.
 
HoeExotic

HoeExotic

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Hollatchaboy said:
Yea pretty much. Molasses is to feed the microbes. In essence your growing your soil. The soil takes care of growing the plant.
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What happens with toxicities in an organic grow? Say youve used too much in your soil that youve transplanted your babies into. Do they just have to ride it out or is there a way to mend the mistake?
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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HoeExotic said:
What happens with toxicities in an organic grow? Say youve used too much in your soil that youve transplanted your babies into. Do they just have to ride it out or is there a way to mend the mistake?
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Well, if you use the right amendments (stay away from hot shit) and you have good microbial life, you won't really get toxicities. Not saying it won't happen, but I've had no troubles.
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

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Hollatchaboy said:
Well, if you use the right amendments (stay away from hot shit) and you have good microbial life, you won't really get toxicities. Not saying it won't happen, but I've had no troubles.
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Plants feeding naturally only take up what they need so even a super hot soil usually doesn’t hurt much. I’ve never seen N burn in all the years I’ve grown in living soil but I have gotten clawed plants from too “hot” a soil. The fix is to simply water as normal. Plants recover very quickly. The reason people get nutrient burn in the first place is because soluble npk is absorbed directly; also why you need to ph adjust a nute solution for proper absorption.
Most of the problem people have with ph is a lack of understanding of what ph actually means. Numbers on a meter do not mean much of anything unless the growing medium is sterile. In a living soil the ph can fluctuate within the range of absorption from one sector of a container to another depending upon what organic materials, minerals, etc are present in that particular area. The microbes and mycorrhizae fungi do all the work. No need to adjust anything unless the soil has become sterile. Many people in this forum are using their soil as a hydroponic medium mostly because they do not know better. Check out meowt ...

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Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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Richard Drysift said:
Plants feeding naturally only take up what they need so even a super hot soil usually doesn’t hurt much. I’ve never seen N burn in all the years I’ve grown in living soil but I have gotten clawed plants from too “hot” a soil. The fix is to simply water as normal. Plants recover very quickly. The reason people get nutrient burn in the first place is because soluble npk is absorbed directly; also why you need to ph adjust a nute solution for proper absorption.
Most of the problem people have with ph is a lack of understanding of what ph actually means. Numbers on a meter do not mean much of anything unless the growing medium is sterile. In a living soil the ph can fluctuate within the range of absorption from one sector of a container to another depending upon what organic materials, minerals, etc are present in that particular area. The microbes and mycorrhizae fungi do all the work. No need to adjust anything unless the soil has become sterile. Many people in this forum are using their soil as a hydroponic medium mostly because they do not know better. Check out meowt ...

Grow-A-Long with Dick

Here’s to new beginnings! Restarting a perpetual grow from jump street so was thinking of doing something as an collective: I will post an updated pic weekly or bi-weekly to monitor our progress and show how these plants develop through veg into bloom and full maturity. Feel free to post pics of...
www.rollitup.org
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I was one of those people until I started learning what I like to call "real organics". Not trying to take anything away from anybody else's methods. I just feel like living soil is better. That's just my opinion though.
 
HoeExotic

HoeExotic

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If I'm
Richard Drysift said:
Plants feeding naturally only take up what they need so even a super hot soil usually doesn’t hurt much. I’ve never seen N burn in all the years I’ve grown in living soil but I have gotten clawed plants from too “hot” a soil. The fix is to simply water as normal. Plants recover very quickly. The reason people get nutrient burn in the first place is because soluble npk is absorbed directly; also why you need to ph adjust a nute solution for proper absorption.
Most of the problem people have with ph is a lack of understanding of what ph actually means. Numbers on a meter do not mean much of anything unless the growing medium is sterile. In a living soil the ph can fluctuate within the range of absorption from one sector of a container to another depending upon what organic materials, minerals, etc are present in that particular area. The microbes and mycorrhizae fungi do all the work. No need to adjust anything unless the soil has become sterile. Many people in this forum are using their soil as a hydroponic medium mostly because they do not know better. Check out meowt ...

Grow-A-Long with Dick

Here’s to new beginnings! Restarting a perpetual grow from jump street so was thinking of doing something as an collective: I will post an updated pic weekly or bi-weekly to monitor our progress and show how these plants develop through veg into bloom and full maturity. Feel free to post pics of...
www.rollitup.org
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If my soil is sterile and I'm using nutrients that are living soil safe with ph balanced manually, is my grow inorganic? Also, is there no benefit to using sterile soil instead of coco?
 
Dutch_cultivator717

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Hey guys so back again with some advise. Plants are getting iffy again and the soil ph is now testing at 5.7-6.3. Yellowing continues on three of them and new yellowing patterns on the other two but not too bad. My water ph is going in at 6.5 last watering and today I tested and the ph has dropped significantly! I plan to top dress using dolomite lime 1/2 tbsp per gallon of soil to raise it back to normal to finish off my last four weeks in flower strong. Any suggestions? Does it work? And also any suggestion to get it back to normally till the Dolomites lime has time to kick in? I have four other in veg that are doing great but it seems in my last three grows every time I get 3-4 weeks into flower my soil ph gets all screwy
 

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Updated photos! Two great three ehh
 

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goneDoneIt

goneDoneIt

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HoeExotic said:
Believe it or not, they can correlate. A plant can absorb nutrients in soil the same as it can in sand. I ph everything, every watering and feeding with mother nature terracraft soil, burpee 4-4-4, and montys plant food. Would you like to see results?
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You are blessed to be using some PREMIUM products brotha,' CONGRATS to those excellent choices! Well DONE!
 
goneDoneIt

goneDoneIt

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HoeExotic said:
Just for arguments sake, I've had great results with phing organic soil and nutrients. Currently am, and using recycled soil from last grow. Would I get better results by not phing?
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No, but you may well be harmed if the pH get's all outta' wack no matter what you're in. One can do no harm pHing feed/water as long as adjusting pH with something organic and not a chemical, my $0.02...

Why does pH'ing seem to cause some people to foam at the mouth??? Doing it can do no harm, not doing it? Well, pH can drift in ANY medium and that is not optimal. So there's $0.04 worth... lol
 
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