Hillary Campaign Imploding?

Wavels

Wavels

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^^^Well, regardless of past perceptions of Bill, I now see that some Dem pundits are actually beginning to blame Bill for Hills sudden cratering.
Hmmm? Could be?

Here is Eleanor Clift/Newsweek.......
"Word is even leaking out from Chappaqua and Harlem that the big gun is confiding to who knows whom that not all is not well in Hillaryland."

And whose fault is that? Hillary was doing pretty well on her own until Bill started whining about the boys ganging up on her and the media mistreating her. But that was nothing compared to his declaration that he was against the Iraq war from the beginning. That little bit of revisionist history landed like a live grenade in the middle of Hillary's campaign, exploding a year's worth of positioning to put the Iraq war vote behind her.
The key point the former president seems not to have fully absorbed is that the race is not about him, it's about her. Reporters have taken to counting the number of times he says "I" in his speeches, compared to his mentions of Hillary
Trouble in Hillaryland | Newsweek Voices - Eleanor Clift | Newsweek.com

What grand theater!!!

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medicineman

medicineman

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Wavels said:
^^^Well, regardless of past perceptions of Bill, I now see that some Dem pundits are actually beginning to blame Bill for Hills sudden cratering.
Hmmm? Could be?

Here is Eleanor Clift/Newsweek.......
"Word is even leaking out from Chappaqua and Harlem that the big gun is confiding to who knows whom that not all is not well in Hillaryland."

And whose fault is that? Hillary was doing pretty well on her own until Bill started whining about the boys ganging up on her and the media mistreating her. But that was nothing compared to his declaration that he was against the Iraq war from the beginning. That little bit of revisionist history landed like a live grenade in the middle of Hillary's campaign, exploding a year's worth of positioning to put the Iraq war vote behind her.
The key point the former president seems not to have fully absorbed is that the race is not about him, it's about her. Reporters have taken to counting the number of times he says "I" in his speeches, compared to his mentions of Hillary
Trouble in Hillaryland | Newsweek Voices - Eleanor Clift | Newsweek.com

What grand theater!!!

:joint:
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I actually have to feel sorry for you at times wavels, you are so misdirected in your "thinking" as I reluctantly like to address it. I'll not ramble on with all the positive aspects of the Clinton presidency. I'll just let the opposing views of the Bush presidency speak volumns about how great things were before Bush.
 
Wavels

Wavels

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med, med med....the MSM seems to be turning on old Hill!
This is what I find interesting....her nomination, not too long ago, was referred to as inevitable.
It seems like the tides are turning unexpectedly, and the MSM punditry is becoming vicious!
It is gonna be fascinating to see this play out, especially if they focus more on Bill as the cause of Hills struggling.

I am supporting Ron Paul, and I remain optimistic!

I am sorry you do not find this development to be of interest!
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iblazethatkush

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Hilary is a bitch. Her stances are almost identical to Bush's. She voted yes to invading Iran a couple months ago. She's pro War, lax on immigration, anti-MMJ, pro huge government spending, etc. Why would you vote for her again? It would just be more of the same shit of the last 7 years.
 
closet.cult

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medicineman said:
I actually have to feel sorry for you at times wavels, you are so misdirected in your "thinking" as I reluctantly like to address it. I'll not ramble on with all the positive aspects of the Clinton presidency. I'll just let the opposing views of the Bush presidency speak volumns about how great things were before Bush.
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there is no difference between either the clintons or bush. they are both criminals and in the same clubs. they were just asked to perform different duties by the powers that be during their respective terms.

republicans get to be the bad guys. rich asshole who demand people be responcible, to a fault. and democrats get to be the bleeding heart liberals who want to change the world by giving away the countries wealth.

this is the game the powers that be ladle out to polarise us from one another. divide and conquer. get people get carried away because we have different phylosophies about how to spend the government's money.

don't let them divide us. we are all americans. and true patriots will recognize this tactic.

i am shocked and delighted to realize how many people are suporting the basic constitutional values Ron Paul is advocating. it's really encouraging. 6+ million in one day! the largest single day donation EVER?! this country really needs a change.could this be the dawning of the age of aquarius? enlightenment?
 
medicineman

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CC, you are correct about Hillary, The only way I'd vote for her would be if she was the Dem. nominee and anyone but Paul was the repuke nominee. I actually have been looking at Chris Dodd lately, but he doesn't have a chance. If Rudy or Romney gets the repuke nom. we are stuck in war for another 8 fucking years. If Hillarious gets in, we may be stuck through first term but the American people will rise up and demand an end in her second term. What scares me about a Republican administration (Besides Paul) would be the "War on terror" theme that they would use to remove more of our dwindling liberties. I really don't believe our democracy could survive another 8 years of Bush tactics.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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If Hillary is elected, and then elected for a second term, we would have had either a Bush or a Clinton in the top spot for 28 years. Anyone but a Bush or a Clinton would be my choice.

Vi
 
bKonz

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bongspit said:
the news media NEVER gets it right in Iowa, because they want choose the candidates. I do not care who the democrat candidate is, they will get my vote...I am sick of this republican shit. hell...I will even vote obama if he promises to lose oprahs fat ass...:peace:
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I guess the general populous hasn't learned yet. It's not about party affiliation, it's about the candidates positions on key subjects. This is part of the reason are country is screwed; most people are too blind to see past party affiliation (2 sides to the SAME coin). :roll:


ZOMG THE REPS SCREWED US AND I HAVE TO VOTE DEM NO MATTER WHAT THIS ELECTION!!11!1!one!


Sorry, I just don't believe in being loyal to a party. If you know what ails this country you will know which candidate is best for the job after researching each, not which party is best. There are snakes in every political party.


Sorry if I come off like a jerk, but I read this kind of stuff everywhere and it's getting old.:peace:
 
mockingbird131313

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Hillary has been on a downhill slide ever since she found out that Victorie's Secret was not going forward with a Hillary line of pant suits.

Never trust the front runners too far in the early election cycle. In 45 days at least one major candidate will be gone from both the dems and the repubs.
 
bongspit

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I am a yellow dog democrat...I will vote for John Edwards in the primary, but I will vote for whoever the democratic candidate is in the general election.:blsmoke:
 
medicineman

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bongspit said:
I am a yellow dog democrat...I will vote for John Edwards in the primary, but I will vote for whoever the democratic candidate is in the general election.:blsmoke:
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John is a good choice, although John said he will not consider legalizing MJ because of the "Children", Kinda lost my credibility there. You have to take into account though, John lost his teenage son to basically drugs, he was a pot smoker and I'm pretty sure, harder drugs and that left an impact on John. Johns other agendas are right on.
 
medicineman

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fdd2blk said:
hillary's tired......


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Boy is that an un-inspiring picture. Is that an unretouched Photo? I think that has been altered. I'm sure that most of the candidates over 60, which is most of them, would look as bad in an off camera moment at the end of many 20 Hr. days.
 
bongspit

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medicineman said:
John is a good choice, although John said he will not consider legalizing marijuana because of the "Children", Kinda lost my credibility there. You have to take into account though, John lost his teenage son to basically drugs, he was a pot smoker and I'm pretty sure, harder drugs and that left an impact on John. Johns other agendas are right on.
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I like John because he didn't grow up with a silver spoon in his mouth( or silver boot like georgie butch). H e was the first person in his family to graduate high school, his parents worked in factories etc....
 
ccodiane

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John Edwards has to be the least sincere sounding and acting candidate there is, in mine and many others opinions. What experience has he that would make him qualified for the office of President? Leadership? He is the epitome of a "silver spoon" lib. Extremely wealthy, but running a campaign based on equality of wealth for all. The poverty tour? Why not just be sincere and say, "Look, I made multi-multi millions, and you can too!" Instead, it's, "The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. I'll make sure, at least, that the rich stop getting richer."
 
mockingbird131313

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medicineman said:
CC, you are correct about Hillary, The only way I'd vote for her would be if she was the Dem. nominee and anyone but Paul was the repuke nominee. I actually have been looking at Chris Dodd lately, but he doesn't have a chance. If Rudy or Romney gets the repuke nom. we are stuck in war for another 8 fucking years. If Hillarious gets in, we may be stuck through first term but the American people will rise up and demand an end in her second term. What scares me about a Republican administration (Besides Paul) would be the "War on terror" theme that they would use to remove more of our dwindling liberties. I really don't believe our democracy could survive another 8 years of Bush tactics.
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A lot of people have looked at Chris Dodd. Like the time he and Teddy K sandwiched that poor waitress on the floor doin the dry hump, in a restaurant full of people. A couple old fools acting out. The poor lady received an unspecified amount of compensation, in an out of court settlement.
 
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