PadawanWarrior
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Underestimating the power of LED's get a lot of us at first.
HLG SCORPION DIABLO led lights , plants are not reacting well to the lights...!!!
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Phytium hater
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I ant't going to call HLG asking the same questions as I'we been answered here already particularly if Johnny been prepping them that this crazy person is going to call you etc. you know what I mean...
Treesomewanted77
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So just in case anyone was wondering about the new scorpion Diablo & Diablo X
Here is the difference between them
Here is the difference between them
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Phytium hater
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Just put the Leds back in play for flowering , started with 40% but have the lights way up and high.
Feeling pretty excited
Feeling pretty excited
Phytium hater
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And now it is a totally different ball game when the distance is correct...plants look totally happy , hopefully they won't stretch too much.
Only downside is that this strains genetics for some reason is crap and too many of them might not produce as well as some other genetics would do.
I'll do everything I can , luckily I can swap from other rooms better looking individuals to this one if some plant isn't looking like a winner.
, hopefully they won't stretch too much.Only downside is that this strains genetics for some reason is crap and too many of them might not produce as well as some other genetics would do.
I'll do everything I can , luckily I can swap from other rooms better looking individuals to this one if some plant isn't looking like a winner.
PadawanWarrior
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Oh what,
So they don't have 666 total chips anymore? If it doesn't have 666 it ain't La Diablo,
hillbill
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Oh! The Humanity!Oh what,
Nope_49595933949
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WeirdddddddddAnd now it is a totally different ball game when the distance is correct...plants look totally happy
Only downside is that this strains genetics for some reason is crap and too many of them might not produce as well as some other genetics would do.
I'll do everything I can , luckily I can swap from other rooms better looking individuals to this one if some plant isn't looking like a winner.
Phytium hater
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Hi, now the plants are in flowering . 3 week in it....went up to 70 % of full power but the overall humidity is in sane like over 80rh..
water is running on the walls...I was able to squeeze in a humidifier but it seems not to help..had to put back to 60 % of lights power because the overall temps. where like 33 celcius... the size of the tent is like 2,4x2,4 meters , height 2,2 meters...so there is 4 Scorpion diablos and 16 plants with a lots of leaves..this strain is not really reacting too well on removing too many leaves...
How do you guys keep the humidity in check and the temperatures..
I can also use intake blower for cool air ,which I tried but its very cold outside at the moment so the root zone area might not be in the best temps with that...so that I could get the best result from lights seems I can not really turn them up without huge humidity and temperatures...which level should the humidity be measured and which level should the temperature be measured...if you do it 30 cm under the lights its of course much higher than down at the root zone....
water is running on the walls...I was able to squeeze in a humidifier but it seems not to help..had to put back to 60 % of lights power because the overall temps. where like 33 celcius... the size of the tent is like 2,4x2,4 meters , height 2,2 meters...so there is 4 Scorpion diablos and 16 plants with a lots of leaves..this strain is not really reacting too well on removing too many leaves...
How do you guys keep the humidity in check and the temperatures..
I can also use intake blower for cool air ,which I tried but its very cold outside at the moment so the root zone area might not be in the best temps with that...so that I could get the best result from lights seems I can not really turn them up without huge humidity and temperatures...which level should the humidity be measured and which level should the temperature be measured...if you do it 30 cm under the lights its of course much higher than down at the root zone....
Phytium hater
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And forgot to mention there is 2 x 1000m3 filters with 2 x 870m3/h blowers to exchange the air...so for that small space the air exchange should be way enough..
Clk55r1d3h
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Dude I haven't read the whole thread but I have growers choice 720s and during veg i'm talking about full on almost 3 foot plant if i go over 40 percent at about 36" the top leaves start to discolor like spotting the first day, if i leave it another day completely droopy. Every light plant is different, one of the homies runs 50 percent smaller plants than mine more PAR but the plant is doing fine.. Yeah can't tell you why but they're all different just gotta get used to it. HPS is great but times have changed and I ain't running that shit again.
Clk55r1d3h
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That's a problem that alot of people have, if you don't have good AC and dehumidifier. You wanna have the sensors at canopy height. Quest dehumidifiers for example are recommended to be hanged cuz that's how it works the best. I have 13 lights, two 3 ton mini splits, one quest 155 with two other on floor dehumidifiers and even then i sometimes have issues. When selecting a dehumidifier u wanna check the AHAM rating not what the brand says. My 210 pint dehumidifier is only able to remove 115 pints per day at 80F/60RH, so the reading most give is at saturation which in our case is fucken useless. Saturation is basically 90F/85RH, I don't work under those conditions so just gotta get the right stuff. Oh and btw the hotter the room the lower the humidity, just something to keep in mind.
weednerd.anthony.850
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Knee jerk reactions never solve issues overnight.
Plenty of advice that you were given by different members in this thread definitely would’ve helped your situation but…
You have blamed mostly your lights throughout this thread. Started off by saying these expensive lights must be a scam not providing the correct wavelength for growing plants… HLG must’ve gotten the best of a lot of us then, wouldn’t you say? Then you claim your grow shop must’ve gotten fake HLG’s with no evidence or facts to back up either statement.
“So clearly looks like these expensive Led lights are not even producing the correct wavelength for growing anything what as scam...”
And later on you also start blaming genetics, if you bought bunk seeds from an unreliable source, then it’s your own fault for not doing your homework on the seedbank, at least enough to make sure they can be trusted with your money to give you a legitimate pack of beans. (This is assuming the genetics were even an issue.)
In my experience at growing my own smoke for at least 15 years now, every single breeder I’ve tried and even the bagseed I used early on never were the problem due to bad genetics in the least… I have definitely had strains I liked better than others, but that’s up to your taste and preferences. Truly, if I wasn’t happy with my harvests and results, it was simple: me screwing up things like dialing in my environment, over/under watering, not enough plant training, not feeding enough in flower, etc. And many of those issues I just didn’t fully understand until I messed them up, and had to fix what I screwed up.
If you had browsed on here just for even a few minutes before buying those seeds in a hurry probably trying to get a quick deal, you probably would have easily found a seedbank you are interested in, that has gear you like, and that ships to your area, no doubt about it. (Again, this is assuming the seeds were the problem.)
So next time before you go start whining on public forums, and possibly misleading some people new to this who are debating if they should switch to LED… maybe you should try to use some critical thinking and problem solving skills to attempt to figure out where you went wrong.
Any issue with your environment, or plants is typically caused by mistakes you’ve made. Which is not a big deal, as we’ve all been there to learn from the mistakes and grow a better next crop. But you definitely can’t start to learn and progress, unless you can start to be man enough to admit where you screw up. Blaming lights, your genetics, and everything but yourself is not the answer towards progress and a better harvest. Just a few thoughts…
Happy Growing.
Plenty of advice that you were given by different members in this thread definitely would’ve helped your situation but…
You have blamed mostly your lights throughout this thread. Started off by saying these expensive lights must be a scam not providing the correct wavelength for growing plants… HLG must’ve gotten the best of a lot of us then, wouldn’t you say? Then you claim your grow shop must’ve gotten fake HLG’s with no evidence or facts to back up either statement.
“So clearly looks like these expensive Led lights are not even producing the correct wavelength for growing anything what as scam...”
And later on you also start blaming genetics, if you bought bunk seeds from an unreliable source, then it’s your own fault for not doing your homework on the seedbank, at least enough to make sure they can be trusted with your money to give you a legitimate pack of beans. (This is assuming the genetics were even an issue.)
In my experience at growing my own smoke for at least 15 years now, every single breeder I’ve tried and even the bagseed I used early on never were the problem due to bad genetics in the least… I have definitely had strains I liked better than others, but that’s up to your taste and preferences. Truly, if I wasn’t happy with my harvests and results, it was simple: me screwing up things like dialing in my environment, over/under watering, not enough plant training, not feeding enough in flower, etc. And many of those issues I just didn’t fully understand until I messed them up, and had to fix what I screwed up.
If you had browsed on here just for even a few minutes before buying those seeds in a hurry probably trying to get a quick deal, you probably would have easily found a seedbank you are interested in, that has gear you like, and that ships to your area, no doubt about it. (Again, this is assuming the seeds were the problem.)
So next time before you go start whining on public forums, and possibly misleading some people new to this who are debating if they should switch to LED… maybe you should try to use some critical thinking and problem solving skills to attempt to figure out where you went wrong.
Any issue with your environment, or plants is typically caused by mistakes you’ve made. Which is not a big deal, as we’ve all been there to learn from the mistakes and grow a better next crop. But you definitely can’t start to learn and progress, unless you can start to be man enough to admit where you screw up. Blaming lights, your genetics, and everything but yourself is not the answer towards progress and a better harvest. Just a few thoughts…
Happy Growing.
Phytium hater
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Wow so much anger...the leds are doing ok now..the end result will be the one what matters. I used to do dr criplings Incredible bulk and used to that incredible results it produced.
This strain now is giving half of that incredible..everything else done the same way.
The leds I am using is so new thing to me and comparing with HPS I haven't still found anything I would like better from leds.
currently I am using 50 % because in my case when it is warmer rh has gone up a lot + humidifier causes a lot of extra heat too..it is 30/liters 24 h.
got my par meter and seem like with 50 % they are allready getting a lots of light, because the plants stretched in to the lights , been lst;ing like never before..run out of wire allready..might try back at some point to pump them to 60 % as I had them before but not really shure which setting would produce the best result..not aiming for only top nugs..so far the led room plant look the best compairing to the HPS rooms and stalks are like super thick
This strain now is giving half of that incredible..everything else done the same way.
The leds I am using is so new thing to me and comparing with HPS I haven't still found anything I would like better from leds.
currently I am using 50 % because in my case when it is warmer rh has gone up a lot + humidifier causes a lot of extra heat too..it is 30/liters 24 h.
got my par meter and seem like with 50 % they are allready getting a lots of light, because the plants stretched in to the lights , been lst;ing like never before..run out of wire allready..might try back at some point to pump them to 60 % as I had them before but not really shure which setting would produce the best result..not aiming for only top nugs..so far the led room plant look the best compairing to the HPS rooms and stalks are like super thick
Phytium hater
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Clk55r1d3h
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Thank you...just gets overwhelming sometimes. Can't do any training or anything, just lollipop and throw them in keep em healthy. Kinda miss the whole one on one with a plant lol.Yo man .. serious f**** hardware , hats off wow !!! Thats the way to do it
Phytium hater
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Yep I know exactly what you mean...not possible to fokus on individual ones..not able to reach properly...I haven't even lollipopped for a while
because when it should be done there is too much to do other things like re-potting and rebuilt of systems and tanks filling..I must reconsider to go back in lollipopping...it's just that I did well without any nets with my favorite strain and got good buds all the way down...felt like lesser with the scrogging wich created that impenetrable wall of canopy where light couldn't reach all the way down..and hated to try to go in the tents when there where nets..crawling on the ground...
Clk55r1d3h
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For sure, it’s not as easy as it looks/sounds. A lot of labor, a lot of expenses, and if u fuck up there goes at least 6-7k down the drain. So no room for it. Definetely doable though, one day at a time.Yep I know exactly what you mean...not possible to fokus on individual ones..not able to reach properly...I haven't even lollipopped for a while
because when it should be done there is too much to do other things like re-potting and rebuilt of systems and tanks filling..I must reconsider to go back in lollipopping...it's just that I did well without any nets with my favorite strain and got good buds all the way down...felt like lesser with the scrogging wich created that impenetrable wall of canopy where light couldn't reach all the way down..and hated to try to go in the tents when there where nets..crawling on the ground...