HLG vs HGL Side By Side Take 2

Who do you think will win?

  • HLG

    Votes: 63 85.1%
  • HGL

    Votes: 11 14.9%

  • Total voters
    74
  • Poll closed .
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10WeekFlushBro

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GJ Hybridway2 for seeing through, nice grow.
One grow is just an anecdote, but HLG wins by an absolute landslide in PR and respectability area.

Interesting thread. Of course people don't want lights from individuals who act so scummy. That aside, in this thread you find a lot of pent-up anger from years of bullshit, lies and outlandish claims about Purple leds. After all this talk about a 'divine' spectrum, the plant doesn't really reflect it (unsurprisingly) :). Luckily for Cammie, another sucker is born every minute.
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Yeah I don't visit that other forum just thought everyone needed a little reminder that this was intended as a purely spectrum side by side so white light won vs rgb not really hlgvshgl.
I only respond to you because every post you make is false.
Did you miss the part where HLG received "to do capability" double the ppfd all through flower???
Admittedly had a tough time veggin under Trinity but am about to lay more veg under it soon with hopes of doing better.
There will not be another side by side using HydroGrow. I have seen all i need to see.
Yes, there will be more info. Presented.
Might be a day or 2 as i have a busy wknd.
More Trinity action to come.
Thank you HLG & HGL for making this possible.
 

CoB_nUt

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Congrats on getting to the end Hybridway.

I know you've taken some flack and had some issues, bugs, defs, and It must be difficult to not take that all to heart man.
Where HGL is concerned feelings run very strong, never been so much division since that closed thread on LEDs from a few years back.

I feel its a shame it wasn't Amare or some other light company rocking this spectrum, because im sure a lot of us would of shown more of an interest in the spectral differences and kept more open minds if HGL were not at the forefront of the conversation.

Regardless you pulled some awesome looking product from both lights.
Be good to see some pics of some of the best buds from each light side by side and obviously here the smoke report later.

One thing though, get some bigger pots man! 10-15gal , im sure you will find the whole process easier.
+++Rep. Well said.:clap:
 

mustbetribbin

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At the end of the day it was a spectrum test hybrid used far less power with hlg to make it somewhat fair. Apparently white spectrum is better. It would be cool to see a side by side for the actual fixtures instead of a spectrum side by side but that probably won't happen
I can see where you might have come to this conclusion and I agree that white light does produce great results, the question is which white light the is best or most versatile spectrum for growing, maybe several types white light overlapping would enhance these bands of light and provide more efficiency than one on its own? Maybe I'm overlooking the nanotechnology that is built into each diode, is it possible that white light has nano rgb like technology built into the individual diodes in order to produce white light?

Also with what we know about spectrum wavelengths, we should begin to realize that one fixture should not hold all of the diodes in one fixed height mounted to a single panel, red light travels in longer wavelengths, where as violet-blue light travels in more rapidly and shorter wavelengths than other light. The leaves of a plant can only handle so much energy at one time, by mounting all these diodes to one board we are providing the plant with imbalanced over saturation of light on some ends of the spectrum, while under saturation is occurring on the other end.

We cannot bend around the what the science behind this matter is indicating, and as an example look at HGL for instance, they have attempted to mount RBG to one board and have added less of certain diodes in order to achieve a similar result as having some of the lights further distance , while others are kept closer, but we cannot bend around science, a light sources spectrum wavelength doesn't change just because you added less diodes, the leaves are still receiving spectral interference of photon absorbsion because it is dealing with radiation from the other diodes because the wavelengths they are producing is overwhelming what the cells of the plant are able to handle, and therefore minor shock is being endured by the plant for the duration of the grow, and full spectrum optimization is not reached.

Wavelengths of light deserve our respect and understanding in order to utilise them appropriately, Red light travels at a slower vibration that is less radioactive than Blue light, therefore Blue light needs to be spaced further away from the plant, while Red diodes can be kept closer, you see the very best way to utilise RBG light is to run at different distances and control the wattage to individual color diodes separately in order to dim down some of the intensity while others can be ran at higher wattage due to producing less radioactive light (That is unless enough space is provided for each light source, then a dimmer may not be necessary).

When we combine this knowledge to our other understandings of what the plant needs during its life phases, in regards to spectrum, this can really benefit our ability to grow larger and healthier plants, because we are paying attention to the necessities of the plants needs at a cellular level, not just with soil, nutrients, and other elements, but with the lights we use and the way they are utilized as well.

Cheers.
 

diggs99

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I only respond to you because every post you make is false.
Did you miss the part where HLG received "to do capability" double the ppfd all through flower???
Admittedly had a tough time veggin under Trinity but am about to lay more veg under it soon with hopes of doing better.
There will not be another side by side using HydroGrow. I have seen all i need to see.
Yes, there will be more info. Presented.
Might be a day or 2 as i have a busy wknd.
More Trinity action to come.
Thank you HLG & HGL for making this possible.
Well done sticking it out until the end, this has been a constant shit show and i think many growers would have quit updating these threads long ago just to avoid dealing with the BS, i applaud you for staying the course throughout.

Now that the grow is complete, have you mentioned which light/spectrum you prefer between the 2? HGL made some pretty big claims back when this all started, do you feel the HGL lights lived up to any of the owners hype?

I look forward to the amare vs HLG showdown. Seems only fitting we have the 2 big guns fight it out.

Best of luck with everything moving forward.
 

Flash63

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I have every spectrum hlg offers,in my flower room(2700k,3000k,3500k4000k).I’ve also incorporated some 660nm in 4ft t5 leds .. as well as far red when the lights go out..I have found that the 4000k consistently gives me the best results as far as quality and yields,the plants use more water as well.86D24C69-05E8-45D4-8F8C-9ECC16F166D7.jpeg
 

Ryante55

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I only respond to you because every post you make is false.
Did you miss the part where HLG received "to do capability" double the ppfd all through flower???
Admittedly had a tough time veggin under Trinity but am about to lay more veg under it soon with hopes of doing better.
There will not be another side by side using HydroGrow. I have seen all i need to see.
Yes, there will be more info. Presented.
Might be a day or 2 as i have a busy wknd.
More Trinity action to come.
Thank you HLG & HGL for making this possible.
What is false? You said multiple times it's a spectrum side by side that's why you turned the lights down on the hlg side to match ppfd. you saying you were lying when you said that before?
 

Lucky Luke

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You really thinks that why he did that?
no idea, didnt know he turned them down till just now.

im still waiting on what he thinks is a long veg to help me understand something he said.....Is it 1 month, 2 months 3 months 6 months? Its all relevant to the individual and environment. Im sure if u asked a group of people what is a long veg to them u would have a range of answers.
 
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10WeekFlushBro

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I just added the reds a couple of weeks ago,I got the 600w diy kit in 4000k and built a frame,prime real-estate under them.
Why are you adding red to the 4000K if you find it gives the best results (assuming that adding red light will decrease the color temperature)? Just curious. if you have some more comments on the differences we all would be interested I think.
 
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