HM Clones

CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

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I ordered a $350 Zkittlez clone from HM Clones on May 22. It was supposed to ship in 14 days but took 27 days to arrive. I emailed them after 3 weeks and they replied that it would ship out the next week, which it did.

HM Clones is in Oregon so that's where I expected the clone to ship from, but it shipped from the East Coast. It was in a Clone Shipper. It's not the greatest looking clone, probably some stress from the hot weather. I suggested they use an ice pack, they didn't.

For the money I expected a clone with a straight stem, not one where the main shoot pops out at a 45 degree angle. I throw those in the garbage (when I'm taking cuttings). Had they pruned the fan leaves it might have rooted faster. Pruning makes the cutting focus more on root development than fan leaf survival.

I'll update this if it survives quarantine. I will likely not purchase from "Healthy Made" Clones again.

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Bad Karma

Bad Karma

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CaliWorthington said:
I plan to breed with it. One seed or clone drop makes that up in a heartbeat. You can get a Runtz clone from a dozen people but Zkittlez is actually harder to find. For breeding you want the more foundational strains, not necessarily the latest poly-hybrid.
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I easily picked up some White Runtz cuts recently, but no Zkittles to be found, that I saw.
 
CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

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The response I got from HM Clones is "That clone doesn't look that bad at all, please be patient and give it more time."
I expected the clone to perk up in the dome but it didn't.
So this is the high standard you can expect from HM Clones.
 
CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

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Mulder420 said:
Are they owned by the same folks at the cuts club?
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Honestly I don't know. I think they're part of a "clone consortium" organized by Neptune. My guess is they're a different clone house/nursery that is affiliated through marketing. I don't know if they share cuts.

I was going to update this in another few days. The clone is alive and seems to be recovering, but no new growth yet. I'm pretty sure it got heat stressed to the point of shock.

When you buy a single $350 clone you're obviously planning to make it a mother plant. That's why I complained about a clone that's not even a solid top with a straight stem, but a crooked side shoot.

If I can get some healthy new growth on this clone I may eventually be able to take another clone and make that my mother plant. I'm not gonna keep a mother plant that's been shocked, that's no good. Several months down the drain.

By the way this was their cheapest clone along with Gorilla Glue #4. I think Georgia Pie and Gary Payton are like $2,500. Anyone selling clones for hundreds, let alone thousands of dollars, should be held to a higher standard.
 
CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

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Here is the clone now. It's uptaking nitrogen but won't grow, has no vigor, it even feels weird, like soft. The stem will not increase in thickness, just a total shock victim clone. I think I'm gonna throw it away.

[edited] HM Clones did reply to my latest email and offered a couple replacement clones, so he is a stand-up guy after all. I'm also going to give this shocked clone time and see if it ever develops enough vigor to take a new cutting from it. [end edit]

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MAGpie81

MAGpie81

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CaliWorthington said:
Honestly I don't know. I think they're part of a "clone consortium" organized by Neptune. My guess is they're a different clone house/nursery that is affiliated through marketing. I don't know if they share cuts.

I was going to update this in another few days. The clone is alive and seems to be recovering, but no new growth yet. I'm pretty sure it got heat stressed to the point of shock.

When you buy a single $350 clone you're obviously planning to make it a mother plant. That's why I complained about a clone that's not even a solid top with a straight stem, but a crooked side shoot.

If I can get some healthy new growth on this clone I may eventually be able to take another clone and make that my mother plant. I'm not gonna keep a mother plant that's been shocked, that's no good. Several months down the drain.

By the way this was their cheapest clone along with Gorilla Glue #4. I think Georgia Pie and Gary Payton are like $2,500. Anyone selling clones for hundreds, let alone thousands of dollars, should be held to a higher standard.
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Dang- I have a Georgia Pie from a farm I worked at- we were going to toss it as it was extra- I’d only charge equivalent to the time and product I put into it, or let someone take their own cut if they are cool.
I doubt that company will last long. Even with the most premium of strains the variability in phenotypes can make an not worth the price and if there’s no ability to trade-in then it sounds like a pretty profitable racket to me.
Had Georgia Pie even been around long enough for someone to have stabilized the genetics enough to warrant over $1,000 a clone??
Sorry, I feel frustrated for you.
 
CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

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MAGpie81 said:
Dang- I have a Georgia Pie from a farm I worked at- we were going to toss it as it was extra- I’d only charge equivalent to the time and product I put into it, or let someone take their own cut if they are cool.
I doubt that company will last long. Even with the most premium of strains the variability in phenotypes can make an not worth the price and if there’s no ability to trade-in then it sounds like a pretty profitable racket to me.
Had Georgia Pie even been around long enough for someone to have stabilized the genetics enough to warrant over $1,000 a clone??
Sorry, I feel frustrated for you.
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Thanks for your shared frustration. I would love a Georgia Pie clone that doesn't cost $2000.
Now a clone dealer on Strainly that I've had success with before has the Zkittlez cut for $200, wish I had waited two more months. I kinda don't even want it anymore, there's enough Zkittlez crosses already.
 
CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

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Neptune just told me on IG that they are not affiliated with HM Clones. All these seed and clone companies with similar looking Wordpress sites are confusing.
 
MAGpie81

MAGpie81

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It’s good to make money or trade off your time-effort, but trying to squeeze $2000 off of a branch you were probably going to toss anyway is bad business and probably bad karma.
Shoot- if you’re ever in Mendocino area you can have a cutting, just to show that cannabis growing is more than just business to some people. The greed is what’s pulling in the corporate aspect and I hope more people move back to the “share the wealth, and also make enough to keep yourself going” mentality to keep the lifestyle from becoming completely “pay-to-play” and greed-driven, though I’m not all against it as a business venture. Imagine charging $2000 for a cut from a coffee plant… Even cocaine isn’t worth that much as a plant where it is typically grown- it’s the processing and shipping it illegally that gives it that value- not it’s humble shrub-beginnings.
Good luck in the future. No joke about taking a cut from me. I’m just one of those friendly weirdos living good in the redwoods.
Cheers
 
Alter Jean

Alter Jean

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CaliWorthington said:
Why the all caps, brother? Am I detecting some hostility here? OK, bye then.
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I need to be more like you. I agree with the people on over priced cuts.

It should be a smidge more expensive than seed. Zkittles is a nice one from Terp Hogz.

Mulder420 said:
HM clones looks identical to the cutsclub, meh
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Most of the cut companies are copying each other, sharing and potentially harming genes.
So they all look the same. Strainly is probably the worst in the bunch
 
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