Holes in leaves No bugs found any ideas?

Dave017

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Corso312

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Just had something very similar, it took me about 5 days to crack the case.. It was stinkbugs.. They stay still and ain't easy to find in large garden..trick is to get in there the second the lights come on.. They must move around n eat in the dark..I found 3
 
Dave017

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Dave017 said:
View attachment 3600161 View attachment 3600162 View attachment 3600164 View attachment 3600165 Hi guys as I stated above I have some holes in a few of my leaves it doesn't seem too bad and is only affecting the odd leaf here and there. I have ran up and down on both sides of the leaves in question with 3 different loupes from 25x to 100x, even froze some in case the pests were scrambling away. I have yet to find a bug or anything that resembles one. I'm using mid to low grade led's so I don't think its light burn. Any ideas?? Thanks guys.
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I don't think it was the fan it sits too far away to touch or catch the leaves. I should also add that the new growth seems fine though. :)
 
Crab Pot

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Corso312 said:
Just had something very similar, it took me about 5 days to crack the case.. It was stinkbugs.. They stay still and ain't easy to find in large garden..trick is to get in there the second the lights come on.. They must move around n eat in the dark..I found 3
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Stink-bugs.. lol... that's a first for me!
 
Dave017

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Corso312 said:
Just had something very similar, it took me about 5 days to crack the case.. It was stinkbugs.. They stay still and ain't easy to find in large garden..trick is to get in there the second the lights come on.. They must move around n eat in the dark..I found 3
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I only have 2 in flower and 2 in veg fairly small plants. So I have the same issue in both tents I think I would have seen something if it were bugs being such small plants. But you never know right? I have went up and down every inch of the plants, I also keep the room and both tents neat and tidy usually vacuuming and cleaning once every 2 weeks. The only thing I have seen in there in the last few weeks is a housefly and I made sure to dispose of him rather quickly.
 
Crab Pot

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Dave017 said:
I only have 2 in flower and 2 in veg fairly small plants. So I have the same issue in both tents I think I would have seen something if it were bugs being such small plants. But you never know right? I have went up and down every inch of the plants, I also keep the room and both tents neat and tidy usually vacuuming and cleaning once every 2 weeks. The only thing I have seen in there in the last few weeks is a housefly and I made sure to dispose of him rather quickly.
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I've seen a vacuum tear leaves, could it be the vacuum?
 
orbo

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Corso312 said:
Just had something very similar, it took me about 5 days to crack the case.. It was stinkbugs.. They stay still and ain't easy to find in large garden..trick is to get in there the second the lights come on.. They must move around n eat in the dark..I found 3
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I'm with Corso, if you live in an env with StinkBugs keep looking. Those little bastards are smart. They WILL hide from you. I had similar damage and it was a StinkBug. He wasn't eating much so I waited him out and finally found the little bastard. Took a couple weeks.
 
Crab Pot

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Dave017 said:
Could the fan be blowing to hard on em? Can that make tiny holes like that? My cat is not ever in the room let alone the tent but I can see how cats could make similar damage. :)
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No, the fan won't cause damage like that unless the blades of the fan actually hit the leaves.
 
Diabolical666

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no they do make damage like that...my GG hates the fan, looks like shredded fuck after a few hours...but the other strains dont mind the winds.
edit: it can also deform new leaf growth as well
 
Dave017

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orbo said:
I'm with Corso, if you live in an env with StinkBugs keep looking. Those little bastards are smart. They WILL hide from you. I had similar damage and it was a StinkBug. He wasn't eating much so I waited him out and finally found the little bastard. Took a couple weeks.
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Yes we have a lot of the Western Coniferous Stink bugs around here maybe you guys are right. I find the ones we have are attracted to lights though so wouldn't he be flying aroud my cfl's? :)
 
Dave017

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Diabolical666 said:
no they do make damage like that...my GG hates the fan, looks like shredded fuck after a few hours...but the other strains dont mind the winds.
edit: it can also deform new leaf growth as well
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Ok so could the tips of the leaves be almost puncturing other leaves with the repeated motion of the fan so to speak? They are sort of bushy so a lot of leaves are covering others partially.

Edit: I did have some deformed growth as well I was wondering about that :)
 
orbo

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Dave017 said:
Yes we have a lot of the Western Coniferous Stink bugs around here maybe you guys are right. I find the ones we have are attracted to lights though so wouldn't he be flying aroud my cfl's? :)
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Nope. They only seem to like lights when its dark. They also like to follow the same path and be in the same spots as the others before them....hormones, pheromones, sinkbugmones...I don't know what the fuck it is. But it seems like whenever I spot one, its sitting in the same god damn spot the last one I caught was sitting in. Sorry to seem so passionate, but I truly fucking hate those bugs. Nothing worse than smelling stinkbug juice and not being able to figure out where it came from.

I'll tell you why I hate them so much. I was sitting at my desk some years ago when they first arrived on the scene and I kept smelling stinkbug. I looked and looked and be damned if I could find it. I kept circling back to my fingers and mustache as the source of the smell but to no avail after close examination in the mirror and changing my clothes I just couldn't find the thing. Well, wouldn't you know that when I grabbed my coffee cup to take a drink...there...floating in the coffee....was a god damn stink bug. Fucking repulsive.
 
Dave017

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Crab Pot said:
Stinks bugs or the vacuum cleaner?
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I haven't actually vacuumed them much only once or twice but that was weeks ago before some of the affect leaves were even there. :) Maybe a Rouge stink bug in each tent I will keep an eye for that.
 
Dave017

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orbo said:
Nope. They only seem to like lights when its dark. They also like to follow the same path and be in the same spots as the others before them....hormones, pheromones, sinkbugmones...I don't know what the fuck it is. But it seems like whenever I spot one, its sitting in the same god damn spot the last one I caught was sitting in. Sorry to seem so passionate, but I truly fucking hate those bugs. Nothing worse than smelling stinkbug juice and not being able to figure out where it came from.

I'll tell you why I hate them so much. I was sitting at my desk some years ago when they first arrived on the scene and I kept smelling stinkbug. I looked and looked and be damned if I could find it. I kept circling back to my fingers and mustache as the source of the smell but to no avail after close examination in the mirror and changing my clothes I just couldn't find the thing. Well, wouldn't you know that when I grabbed my coffee cup to take a drink...there...floating in the coffee....was a god damn stink bug. Fucking repulsive.
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That's True about the lights when its dark so you gave me an idea. I could shut the lights off for a bit then open the tent doors keep the main room closed and turn on a lamp to draw them towards it?
Edit: If indeed they are in there :)
 
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