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Holy Smoke Malawi Gold Outdoor Grow

Mohican

Mohican

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Hi All,
Just talked to Nick at Holy Smoke Seeds and his new project crosses are almost ready. This will give me time to get my setup ready. I may try a 12/12 from seed on some of my MozPoz crosses with a simple setup to see if my LED can give better results on a smaller area. I love the low heat and low wattage concept of the LED. However, I want to grow some dank! I am not sure if this Kessil can pull it off. I need to give it a a clean grow with no root rot. This Sativa wants to go really long so I need to have a cleen root system.

I may try an outdoor again and just cover them in June to make them go 12/12. This way they will be hot and happy when they are swelling and will finish in August. Plus I can keep the size smaller :)!

Cheers,
Mo
 
DST

DST

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Goo dluck with whatever you decide. Need to get my outdoor thinking hat on soon as well.
 
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Skittlesmcp

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I realize the main part of this thread is done now, but BY GOD! Teach me and I will do WHATEVER you so desire! I am also interested in Malawi gold from hearing people sing its praises so often, and I instantly wanted to try out MozPoz the first time I saw it on attitude. I will definitely be watching for the outcome of that cross!
 
Mohican

Mohican

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After seeing what the buds looked like on the plants that grew outside until december, I realized that these Landrace Sativa strains need to go a long time. It is hard to keep a plant happy that long and that is why most people grow hybrids. I am still on the fence about what I want to do with my next grow. I do not want to spend a fortune on electricity for hot lights, an air conditioner, and a water cooler for my rez. It may not be possible but I will keep trying to grow dank with a CFL Veg/LED flower system for now and see if I can perfect the plant conditions for the system. I think short veg long flower is my key. I also need to keep my roots drier.

For outdoor, I want to build a greenhouse. The problem is, I also want to put in a basement under the greenhouse and I need to go through a number of hoops to make that happen. Slow and easy wins the race! :)

Cheers,
Mo
 
Mohican

Mohican

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Everybody here is already doing that. I think I will keep trying to perfect the landrace Sativa grow process. I love the way the smell, taste, and feel of the Sativa takes me back to the 70's. It is so spicy and clean! The paranoia is off the charts though :P
 
theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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Mohican said:
Everybody here is already doing that. I think I will keep trying to perfect the landrace Sativa grow process. I love the way the smell, taste, and feel of the Sativa takes me back to the 70's. It is so spicy and clean! The paranoia is off the charts though :P
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I grew it outdoors in Cali... never would have stopped flowering I swear!

I would love to see an indoor grow of Landrace Sativa. I lost out on my seed supply though :/
 
HIGHFLY

HIGHFLY

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Extrodinary grow I love outdoor threads like these great updates and the excellent photos were wonderful .Try growing some Satori or gran daddy purple Those would be some dank strains keep up the great growing
 
Mohican

Mohican

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Going to the LA Cup this weekend. I will be picking up some TGA gear from Subcool and checking out what other goodies are available :)
 
bleuballz

bleuballz

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Do you already know which strains you want (tga)?
I'm looking forward to the summer also, I'm going to be running Bubba x OG,
jilly bean, and either greenthumbs C99, or Matunska TF outdoors it looks like.
i might give killing fields a try outside. Already have everything xept for the C99 & MTF.

I wanted to try harlequin, but can't find it.
 
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Vincent VonBlown

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Mohican said:
After seeing what the buds looked like on the plants that grew outside until december, I realized that these Landrace Sativa strains need to go a long time. It is hard to keep a plant happy that long and that is why most people grow hybrids. I am still on the fence about what I want to do with my next grow. I do not want to spend a fortune on electricity for hot lights, an air conditioner, and a water cooler for my rez. It may not be possible but I will keep trying to grow dank with a CFL Veg/LED flower system for now and see if I can perfect the plant conditions for the system. I think short veg long flower is my key. I also need to keep my roots drier.

For outdoor, I want to build a greenhouse. The problem is, I also want to put in a basement under the greenhouse and I need to go through a number of hoops to make that happen. Slow and easy wins the race! :)

Cheers,
Mo
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I find that the best indoor pot comes from Fluroscent lighting during flowering. But indoors under any kind of lighting, most landraces are going to fall short.

(Growing extreme sativas ~indoors vs outdoors~ is 2 different things)

INDOORS, other then hybridizing, I've never seen a long term sativa that was worth growing just to smoke. OUTDOORS, with the right conditions, some of these longer sativas will shine. But most people don't have a real long outdoor growing season, so they can't grow them that way either.

This is more or less the very reason people starting hybridizing and cross breading all kinds of grass. As growing landraces indoors usually produced inferior results.
 
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Vincent VonBlown

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This is also why you see the introduction of Ruderalis into cannabis genetics. An attempt to speed everything up especially outdoors in short growing climates.

But what you don't see to often is breeders working with ditch weed (like I have) to create superior sativa cannabis.

My product will beat any of these long term sativas indoors by a country mile. And since they are also super swift, they can easly be grown almost anywhere outdoors. and the flavor, high, quality, etc. will compete and or beat any long term sativa outdoors.

Here's a picture of my Wonderjacks flowering outdoors, in some of the worst conditions I've seen.

006.jpg Yeah she gets super tall, like any exotic sativa, this one ended up at about 14 feet.

001.jpg002.jpg I harvested this on Sept. 1st in northern america. In some of the worst conditions I had seen outdoors. Bud still came out very nice looking and smoking.
 
DST

DST

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Those conditions look kind of good to me (blue sky and sun:)....try growing outdoors in Northern Europe. That would put your strain to the test. It does looks good, no need to be so "mine is better than anything else" though.
 
Mohican

Mohican

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The mulanje really shined. It was the only strain I paid for and I could sure see a difference in vigor and quality. I don't think I will bother growing freebies in the future. I am really excited to see what is available at the cup this weekend! Jin's people say that I should get some girl scout cookies from PO. Not sure what I'm going to try next.
Cheers,
Mo
 
DST

DST

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I would like to see these grown outdoors, Mo
Think I may go for it this summer.
Engineers Dream.

 
Mohican

Mohican

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Hey DST - That Engineers Dream looks amazing! Who are its parents? Send me some seeds and I will grow it outdoors for you ;)

Looks like the LA Cup is going to be cancelled :0

Here are the Mulanje buds that went until the end of December:



These buds smelled like Bubblegum on the plant and smelled like catpiss in the dry room. They were very sticky and the Jar of bud smells amazing :)

Edit: These were mainlined using the Nugbuckets method.

Cheers,
Mo
 
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Highhawyn!

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do yourself a favor bro, go check out Adam and the boys at Archive seeds. doc said he would be giving out free shatter hits. aloha bro, and i followed your malawi on the HI thread the whole season. that shit was stellar. great job. aloha
 
Mohican

Mohican

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Thanks and wecome!

Malawi, Mulanje, and Mozambique Poison (MosPos) - were grown. All Landrace Sativa from the Malawi region. The Mulanje and the MosPos were grown using the Mainlining method perfected by Nugbuckets. The MosPos turned out to be male so I collected some pollen. Crossed the MosPos pollen with the Malawi and Mulanje. I was very scared and thus conservative with the pollen and there are only about 20 seeds. 2 were from the Bubblegum Mulanje. I will try these first in my next grow.

I still need to post a smoke report for the Bubble Gum Mulanje. The jar smells so dank and it was so hard to trim - kept gumming up the scissors!


Cheers,
Mo
 
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