Holy Smoke: Strawberry Diesel - 400w Waterfarm

mr2shim

mr2shim

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Hobgoblit said:
I'm not having a high PH issue, it is very manageable in 20 gallons, I think my issue has been watering. See, I don't have a top feed on this system, and my water level is just below the pot, maybe 1/2 to 1 inch, maybe I should raise the water level? I'm watering by hand through the top now and seems to bring them to life.
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I'm not really sure about DWC. I'd assume if the roots were touching the res you wouldn't have to worry much about top watering. I have a new problem now :lol:, after spraying it with dutch master reverse (I forgot how acidic that shit is) it turned the lower leaves yellow. Not too sure if i'll repeat in 10 days. I've been closely watching the plant now. Growing in hydro for the first time is definitely not as simple as going in soil. Definitely a learning experience. Last grow I didn't care at all about PPMs or what kind of water I was using. I just used whatever and added nutes. haha. I feel like I'm nursing a baby and I have to check on it every 10 minutes.
 
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mr2shim said:
I'm not really sure about DWC. I'd assume if the roots were touching the res you wouldn't have to worry much about top watering. I have a new problem now :lol:, after spraying it with dutch master reverse (I forgot how acidic that shit is) it turned the lower leaves yellow. Not too sure if i'll repeat in 10 days. I've been closely watching the plant now. Growing in hydro for the first time is definitely not as simple as going in soil. Definitely a learning experience. Last grow I didn't care at all about PPMs or what kind of water I was using. I just used whatever and added nutes. haha. I feel like I'm nursing a baby and I have to check on it every 10 minutes.
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I totally feel you on that one, appreciate your time...
 
theinhibitor

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Nice grow! Love it cause strawberry diesel was the first strain I grew :)!
Dont worry about your tap water. I'm positive its fine. I have worse water (very very hard) and it doesn't do anything to the plants. Just let the tap water sit for 10 hours to release any gaseous molecules. If your still wary, buy some root zone conditioner like Dutch Master Gold Zone. Buffers your pH so u dont have to worry and helps your plant intake all the nutrients. ive always been pessimistic about these kinds of products but i have to say, this stuff works wonders.

gl!
 
mr2shim

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theinhibitor said:
Nice grow! Love it cause strawberry diesel was the first strain I grew :)!
Dont worry about your tap water. I'm positive its fine. I have worse water (very very hard) and it doesn't do anything to the plants. Just let the tap water sit for 10 hours to release any gaseous molecules. If your still wary, buy some root zone conditioner like Dutch Master Gold Zone. Buffers your pH so u dont have to worry and helps your plant intake all the nutrients. ive always been pessimistic about these kinds of products but i have to say, this stuff works wonders.

gl!
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Thanks! Didn't think I'd find someone else who has grown Strawberry Diesel. Got any pictures of it finished? I'll look into that Gold Zone. I completely forgot how Reverse makes the leaves look completely screwed. It doesn't kill them but it makes them look dead. :lol: As long as I see nothing but pistils and buds I'm good.
 
mr2shim

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Leaves are still a bit droopy after the Reverse spraying. Went ahead and changed out the res with fresh water. pH before change was 7.1 after it's 5.8. Let's see if it stays this time. PPMs went from 400 to 500. After 10 minutes or so it's already looking greener. Looked for root rot didn't see any, so I assume the droopy leaves are from the Reverse. From what I remember it takes a day or two for the plants leaves to recover from the 1.0 pH spraying. :lol:
 
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Yesterday @ 1:40pm
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Today @ 10:40am
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When comparing full size pictures it looks as if it's still growing, just droopy. Kinda weird.. Also when comparing pictures, it definitely looks greener than it did yesterday. Regardless, pH is at 5.9 now PPMs are kind of high at 570 after adding some pH down.. Will be watching closely over the next hours/days.
 
mr2shim

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Hobgoblit said:
Looking good, mine are coming around too.
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Thanks, think I'm gonna veg longer than 25 days. Maybe next Monday I will start flower. Will find out for sure Thursday morning. Depending on how big she is by then.

Well, when comparing them to my cfl grow @ day 22 there is quite a bit of difference. I'll probably more than likely veg them until Monday which would be the 4 week mark. Who knows, I may have to veg longer. I need to not be in a rush and get this plant grown properly. The bubblelicious was autoflower so I can understand the huge difference there, it's similar to the sour cream. Still a tad bit smaller. Maybe the MH isn't as good for veg as 6500k CFL bulbs?
 
mr2shim

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I can explain the slower growth with my Metal Halide vs the 200w of cfl bulbs. The MH bulb I'm using is a 4200k bulb opposed to the cfl bulbs which were 6500k and by looking at THIS chart..



Quite the difference. I highly doubt I'll find a 6500k MH bulb locally and I'd rather not order one this stage in the game so I'll probably veg it longer than I originally planned or buy a few 6500k cfl bulbs(probably will do this) Kinda wishing I would have noticed that sooner. Oh well, live learn.
 
convict156326

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just stoppin by, not being jerky, but i noticed in your pics you have your nutes in the tent, you dont keep em in there when the 400 is on do you?
 
mr2shim

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convict156326 said:
just stoppin by, not being jerky, but i noticed in your pics you have your nutes in the tent, you dont keep em in there when the 400 is on do you?
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No, I don't keep it in there, I just had it in there for a minute. Thanks for pointing that out, I sometimes forget..
 
mr2shim

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So, just checked on plant. She is growing again and smelly. Very smelly. Apparently she likes it warm 81-85 because I've noticed below that she doesn't grow that fast. Right now temps are at 81. What I do to check growth is move the screen an inch or so away from the top then when it gets close I move it again. I haven't moved it yet today but it'll be touching screen by end of the day. So all in all, I did a res change, and added some Hydrogen Peroxide just to be safe with root rot prevention. Seems to be paying off.
 
mr2shim

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She's coming back to life. Not really growing THAT fast but looks a lot better. This were an hour or so ago. Looks even better now. I left the drip ring unplugged all night and am going to run it for an hour on and an hour off today. Then depending on if it's still going I'll plug it back in tomorrow and run it 24/7 again. Still may wait to flower. Not looking as large as I thought it would by now. I guess there is a pretty big difference between 200 watts of 6500k and 400 watts of 4100k. So next time I'm definitely going to be getting myself a 400w 6500k MH bulb.

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mears220

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looking good mate i'm thinking about getting a waterfarm so i'm subbed ill be taking tips as you go good luck :bigjoint:
 
mr2shim

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mears220 said:
looking good mate i'm thinking about getting a waterfarm so i'm subbed ill be taking tips as you go good luck :bigjoint:
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Waterfarms are great. Just add an airstone and drill some more holes in it and you're golden.

stinkbudd1 said:
Glad to here you got it dialed in bro looking good !
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Thanks! Just wish I would of noticed the kelvins when I got the stupid bulb. It came with the reflector and ballast though... It's a lot to do on your own, so you miss some things. Ah well. 5500k or 6500k for sure next time around.
 
stinkbudd1

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I know what you mean bro when i first sarted geting down i was making return trips to the store each day with modifications and shit but once i sat down and took my time it all seem to just fall into place and guess what my brotha? im still learning today this shit nver stops for those who wants to keep getting better!!
 
mears220

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yea they look like the easiest way to go from soil to hydro iv seen some really good things with them
 
mr2shim

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mears220 said:
yea they look like the easiest way to go from soil to hydro iv seen some really good things with them
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I think everyone should go waterfarm after their first successful soil grow. Looking over scottyballs grow really shows the potential for 1 plant in a waterfarm under a 400w and a scrog screen. That and a scrog screen if they can. I'm pretty sure I'm going to veg mine until at least next Monday. It's growing like normal again but it's not going to be close to 12" tall by Thursday. It's just at 6" today. I'd like it to stretch to at least double it's size and even if it tripled it's current size it still would be fairly short and I'm not sure it would fill the screen. Getting that screen filled is my new main concern. Before it was flowering by Thursday.
 
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