Hortilux Ceramic HPS - Total trash?

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churchhaze

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genuity said:
Who said switch? Can one not just ADD?
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Interpreted another way, you won't switch because it won't benefit you in any way and will likely hurt your yields. It would be purely for shits and giggles, and since you don't have ADD, you realize this would be a waste of your time.

Instead of switching to it, why not lash out at anyone that has anything negative to say about it? That sounds like the most productive course of action.

All I said is that the lamp doesn't seem worth it to me. It looks terrible on paper. Prove me wrong.
 
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churchhaze

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I also thought about my "double dinged" comment and take that back. The IR on top of the 25% radiant efficiency definitely makes PAR efficiency even lower than 25%. Why people defend lamps like this, I have no idea. Someone show me why.
 
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genuity

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churchhaze said:
Interpreted another way, you won't switch because it won't benefit you in any way and will likely hurt your yields. It would be purely for shits and giggles, and since you don't have ADD, you realize this would be a waste of your time.

Instead of switching to it, why not lash out at anyone that has anything negative to say about it? That sounds like the most productive course of action.

All I said is that the lamp doesn't seem worth it to me. It looks terrible on paper. Prove me wrong.
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That sounds dumb as shit... really re-read yo shit.

Who got upset? It is a thread that was started befor this one,this is just a troll thread.
With a shit load of bad information.
 
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churchhaze

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genuity said:
That sounds dumb as shit... really re-read yo shit.

Who got upset? It is a thread that was started befor this one,this is just a troll thread.
With a shit load of bad information.
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I'm sorry you got so offended. Maybe you should calm down.
 
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churchhaze

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So does anyone have first hand experience with this lamp? How were your yields? Please post about your own experience. I'm curious to see what kinds of yields people are getting.

It doesn't seem like there's a case for using this type of lamp, but maybe there's someone out there whose yield went up after upgrading from HPS to this that wants to chime in.

I really doubt it, but maybe this lamp is the future (yeah right)
 
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churchhaze

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The high chief said:
I would have to disagree with you don’t blame the tools View attachment 4137435
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The quality does look great, but you didn't answer the question. How was your yield? Even with that number though, your grow had a super HPS shining on those plants as well. Still would like to know how you yielded.

This "don't blame the tool" and "it's the grower that counts" is like trying to compare a 30mpg car to a 15mpg car and coming to the conclusion that it's the driver that counts. If you get the same amount of light for less input watts, you're going to have a better g/W, or whatever metric you prefer to use.

Personally, I find the "it's not the light" argument to be a bit emotional and lacking in critical thinking.
 
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churchhaze

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Anyone else? Not interested in the quality unless you can show THC levels vs under HPS with the same clones and environment.

HPS grows high quality weed too and people insisting on higher quality though different spectrum is mostly making things up.
 
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Rocket Soul

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churchhaze said:
I also thought about my "double dinged" comment and take that back. The IR on top of the 25% radiant efficiency definitely makes PAR efficiency even lower than 25%. Why people defend lamps like this, I have no idea. Someone show me why.
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IR is normally not counted towards par efficiency as it is over 700nm. Usually par is between 400 and 700.
 
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churchhaze

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Rocket Soul said:
IR is normally not counted towards par efficiency as it is over 700nm. Usually par is between 400 and 700.
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Yeah I wasn't thinking straight when I wrote that. Look a few posts down where I take it back. Of course the PAR efficiency is even lower than the radiant efficiency with all that IR.
 
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The high chief

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churchhaze said:
The quality does look great, but you didn't answer the question. How was your yield? Even with that number though, your grow had a super HPS shining on those plants as well. Still would like to know how you yielded.

This "don't blame the tool" and "it's the grower that counts" is like trying to compare a 30mpg car to a 15mpg car and coming to the conclusion that it's the driver that counts. If you get the same amount of light for less input watts, you're going to have a better g/W, or whatever metric you prefer to use.

Personally, I find the "it's not the light" argument to be a bit emotional and lacking in critical thinking.
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I got 15 oz and 9 grams off that one plant
 
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churchhaze

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I suppose we're supposed to multiply 15oz and 9g by half of 5 or 8 to figure out what kind of yield you got...

Whatever. So far the one person who grows with ceramic HPS won't tell us what he yielded , and even if he did, it's grown under 2 types of lamps. That's as good as saying there's no data on this lamp other than some nice looking pictures.

I wonder why nobody else is using this lamp.
 
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churchhaze

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ANC said:
I've grown plenty of shitty plants in sunlight, which is about as good a light source as you are going to get.
There is some level of grower skill involved in yielding loads.
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I think you're missing the point. You don't pay for sunlight. Of course there's skill involved, but in terms of lamp efficiency, that's irrelevant.

If you think skill is all that matters, you should fill your growroom with cfls.
 
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