How Accurate is This Historical Strip on Chemdog?

akhiymjames

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I keep.hearing about jj topdawg gear.....how in the fuck do you get there seeds??? Always sold out or not available.
There are a few places that sell the gear...thedankteam, greenline, seedsherenow, sourpatchseeds and headiegardens(SHOE) sells them too. I'm pretty sure all of them have some crosses of Topdawg. May not be something you really want but I believe they have something.
 

tampee

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Sell fast and drop with no notice have some selects always saved
How the hell does one sell out so quick? Y'all must be pulling 1,000+ seeds per plant and I can't say I've heard much about the company.

Almost sounds like a marketing gimmick if they are always selling out it makes them look popular as fuck so some will wait for the drop to see what all the fuss is about.
 

akhiymjames

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JJ from Topdawg has put in the most work in putting out the best crosses from Chem cuts. As coolkid said if you speaking on Chem in seed form and don't know Topdawg you are sleep like the dead lol.

I know it seems like it's a marketing ploy to drive sales but JJ puts work into his Chem lines plus it's not like he sells all packs made at one bank. I posted 5 banks that gets gear and forgot about Heirlooms so that's 6 banks he supplies with gear. When you are known for putting out flame with crosses doesn't matter how many is made they will sell out.

But if you search around you should be able to find something in stock. It may not be what said person wants but there is gear out there. I used to cry about the gear not being available but over the last year JJ has made it very reasonable to get gear and I appreciate him for it as I was able to finally get some beans. Missed on ONYCD 3.0 but the NYCOG will do just fine
 

HeirLoom GarGz

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How the hell does one sell out so quick? Y'all must be pulling 1,000+ seeds per plant and I can't say I've heard much about the company.

Almost sounds like a marketing gimmick if they are always selling out it makes them look popular as fuck so some will wait for the drop to see what all the fuss is about.
Ya no need to explain JJ resume but no gimmick, its putting mostly all chem offspring in seed forn also Diesel hazes elite preservation swuad OG chemfam
 

since1991

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i remember running tga Kaboom years back. One plant out of a pack of 5 had the most extreme diesel fuel/kereosene fuel stank ive ever smelled in cannabis. And it intensified in the cure /jar as time went on instead of diminishing. It literally made your eyes water slightly. The stench was that strong. The local tga rep here in town was very surprised i got a fuelly stank pheno from anu of Subs gear. Something those lines were not at all known for. Especially the early stuff. I wish i wpuld of.kept that one. The fuelly stank is most definitely a defined terpene that pops up in alot of seed.lots ive popped over the years. And alot of it has zero Chem in its blood line as far as i could tell.
 

since1991

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Originally posted by ThaDocta
"soma got his diesel from a bagseed from a buddy from NYC or at least
thats how soma described it. his diesel could be an s1 of original
diesel, underdawg, sour d, or any other b/c it sounds like all of
them in nyc gets mixed up pretty easily (due to similar heritage)
unless youre really in the loop and have access to all of them and
know heritage. that leaves a range of options for soma's expression
of his bagseed diesel momma. and yes, his nyc diesel is not pure
diesel, his first hybrid that won the awards was that diesel bag
momma cross shanti's afghani/hawaiian male. i believe the current
seeds sold by soma are a first backcross to his diesel mom.
So.....

Original Diesel = (SensiNL X MassSuperSkunk) X Dawg/Chem
Sour Diesel = [(SensiNL X MassSuperSkunk) X Dawg/Chem] X DNL
Soma's NYCD = Diesel Bagseed (probably orig, not sour) X (Afghani X Hawaiian)
DNL = RFK X Hawaiian
RFK = NL X Shiva

The sativa comes from skunk. Two different types Mass. Super Skunk,
which was in the Under Dawg Diesel and RFK skunk which was bred into
the DNL. The newest confirmed breeding. The DNL was a RFK skunk
female/Hawiain male x NL male. The breeding on this strain has been
very unclear over the years . First thought to be a Diesel x NL cross
(thats how it got its name DNL) this plant grows tall and streches
very similar growth to the Sour.

RFK was a skunk strain developed from seeds found in a bag scored at
the 90-91? Dead shows at RFK there were 3 different versions of RFK
Skunk 1,2,3. The strain was given to a friend with some Hawaian
seeds(still investagating source) and he crossed the two. Had a
female and added some NL pollen(investagating source) creating the
DNL, which hermi and seeded the Under Dawg Diesel. I know its
confusing. But I think it should be like this...

Original Diesel = Dawg/Chem X (MassSuperSkunk X SensiNL)
Sour Diesel = Original Diesel X DNL
DNL = (RFK Skunk X Hawaiian) X NL
RFK = Skunk strain from RFK dead Shows 90-91

Some of the breeding was planned and some not. The Sour was not
planned. The RFK's and stuff was around before the Diesel. Once
they got a hold of the Chem they started breeding what they had into
it. The DNL was the orginal cash crop before the Diesel and Sour. But
was phased out after being taken over by the Diesel. Only the orginal
breeder and a few have the strain now. Many different crosses were
made seeds still exsist but are over 10 years old. Once they created
the Diesel they were contempt and stopped breeding.

Chemdog

This is for rezdog the sour diesel is in fact a total mistake the
chemdog which was started in co from a very old farmer got seeds to a
person in ma not cali which was started then in 91. It was the best
bud i have ever smoked smelled or tasted. By 1993 it was the sickest
shit around. Then the kids met these guys from ny at a phish show and
they were begging the kids for a cutting which at that point was
scarce.The kids were very tight and knew they had something special.
We then became good friends and the kids traded the chem dog for a
super skunk which is better then any skunk i have seen.We made
promises to not give the shit away it was the bomb. Now this is were
we get a little pissed off but are over it by now the nyc guys didnt
like the name chem dog so they had a idea to chang the name to DIESEL.
So the orig Chem dog is Diesel so what happend next explains the
Sour The kids in ma had the best shit around everybody wanted the
Chem dog people were coming up from albany to get the Diesel in bud
form and they found some seeds in one batch. The super skunk that the
kids were growing hermd and hit the chem dog aka diesel and the albany
crew started those seeds and named it sour diesel also the orig
chemdog aka diesl is og kush. its Chem dog also the ma kids are the
only ones who have orig seeds of chem dog aka diesel still from the
early 90s everybody got cuttings the kids still have 6 seeds left.
hope you all find this info helpful i will soon give full details
about the chem dog,sour diesel,diesel,og kush.Its time to settle all
the bullshit that people seem to know peace to all

Guys your all right except the the og kush is a hermi seed from the
chem dog from back in 96 their were only two people in the day to
take the chem dog to the west coast it first hit lake tahoe. My
friends chem dog got stressed and hermi a little so he decide to try
the few seeds and the buddy who gave the chem dog seeds to us said
the old farmer said it hade kush in it so my buddy to this day thinks
its a strain of the orig kush and said if the ny kids can change the
name from chem dog lets call the west coast version OG kUSH that is
the truth. If anybody ever smoked the chem dog back in the day early
90s it taste like the sour but fifty times more The chem dog is the
mom of the sour so basicly the og kush is a newer seed of the orig
chem dog. peace to all. wmposse if any of you have questions let me
know also i wanna talk to this rez dog guy because he claims no one
has seeds of these strains well iam the only one with true males and
females of the Chem dog,Sour diesel,Bubble chem, i have crossed a
male Chem dog Aka Diesel with all of Sensi seeds good females already
back in 96 they have been in storage since then and i know are still
viable because the me kids just started the Super dog which is the
Superskunk crossed with the chemdog and its sick enjoy the info a lot
more to come

Part of what you say is true. But you have some of the facts mixed
up. First of all, I go way back to the begining 92-93. my good friend
from NY, was the one who got the Chem Dawg and Super Skunk first.
And yes the Chem was first called Diesel because people did not like
the name and because it was the "Cock Diesel" But you don't talk
about the next strain created from the Chem Dawg. Also known as
UnderDawg, Daywrecker, Diesel no.1 (Chem Dawg x super skunk/NL) from
this the Sour was born hermied from the DNL(skunk). That is were it
gets its vigorous growth and some of the taste. Any one who has grown
or smoked it would know. And yes the Albany kids were the first to
"find " the Sour, the "bro" and his crew did not invent it. It was
grown out of seeds found in head bags bought in NYC. The upstate kids
were begging for a cutting of either Diesel and wound up with bag
seed to grow. Thats fact."
That early nineties Super Skunk from Sensi Seeds was some bomb shit. Big producer and quality. Sensis ss nowadays pales in comparison. Still a pig but nowhere near in taste and potency. I wish i could get some original females of that old school Super and cross it myself with some more modern male pollen from some of the ass kicker companies like Sin City or Bodhi are coming out with. Like maybe a Super Skunk x Blue Power cross...sounds ridiculous. Look for a higher yielding Blue Power that has all that Power taste high and smell with those classic Super Skunk chunker buds. Or some of Bodhis gear crossed with a Super. Like Goji og or something similar. Actually id like to try that with a few old school classics. Like real deal Ak47 from Serious. That woupd be pretty sweet too.
 

HeirLoom GarGz

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That early nineties Super Skunk from Sensi Seeds was some bomb shit. Big producer and quality. Sensis ss nowadays pales in comparison. Still a pig but nowhere near in taste and potency. I wish i could get some original females of that old school Super and cross it myself with some more modern male pollen from some of the ass kicker companies like Sin City or Bodhi are coming out with. Like maybe a Super Skunk x Blue Power cross...sounds ridiculous. Look for a higher yielding Blue Power that has all that Power taste high and smell with those classic Super Skunk chunker buds. Or some of Bodhis gear crossed with a Super. Like Goji og or something similar. Actually id like to try that with a few old school classics. Like real deal Ak47 from Serious. That woupd be pretty sweet too.
All sensi 90s got my black dom cut 97' back skunk piss going cross with rks pheno of "mss" for certain crew cant inagine hiw rank but what happ is all Moms got rizzed at sensi so essentially it's a new company get the search through like maybe 100 packs to get one keeper that reminds you the 90s
 

HeirLoom GarGz

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That early nineties Super Skunk from Sensi Seeds was some bomb shit. Big producer and quality. Sensis ss nowadays pales in comparison. Still a pig but nowhere near in taste and potency. I wish i could get some original females of that old school Super and cross it myself with some more modern male pollen from some of the ass kicker companies like Sin City or Bodhi are coming out with. Like maybe a Super Skunk x Blue Power cross...sounds ridiculous. Look for a higher yielding Blue Power that has all that Power taste high and smell with those classic Super Skunk chunker buds. Or some of Bodhis gear crossed with a Super. Like Goji og or something similar. Actually id like to try that with a few old school classics. Like real deal Ak47 from Serious. That woupd be pretty sweet too.
Bodhi is one best, my opinion dont get some the crosses like the lotus makes everything sweet it dom most crosses but the wolfpack im lost Bodhi loves giesel my fav , DxSkunk and crosses with App? Which has tres so three D add Giesel lot of chem D dont see point of "wasting" or poor use of the better plant ...in opinion of course ..goji bery very good we have a skunk sour cut of it ..that said nothing love for him hes a beast ive made Giesel crosses trying to bring out skunk the best part but everybody goes a route of their own..
 
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