How are local "collectives and compassion clubs" structured?

Lucius Vorenus

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i was talking to a lawyer the other day at the NCIA meetings about how the folks doing P2P from fixed locations avoid being raided and how they structure these businesses. Non-Profit collective, Pay for massage, pay admission, straight donation and get meds etc?

I never go into them personally so im kinda curious what way they structure these business models/entities?

Any of you know?
 

BeaverHuntr

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They just use loop holes dude.. Lawyer up and use the loop holes. Thats what AZCS did found a loop hole in obtaining patients grow rights. They were raided , busted , cuffed and in court charges were dropped because the lawyers exploited the loop hole. Thats why Lawyers charge 300 bucks a hour.
 

irieie

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Actually I have heard the raids have everything to do with edibles and.more.specifically zonka bars. That's just what I have heard from a few reliable sources.
 

Lucius Vorenus

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Actually I have heard the raids have everything to do with edibles and.more.specifically zonka bars. That's just what I have heard from a few reliable sources.
Is it true that Al Sobol is behind Zonka? It does seem pretty plagiarist of them to steal pretty much everything from Wonka.


Seems like something Al would be behind.
 

AvonBarksdale

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When I was at Top Shelf the other day, I heard the owner Jim Greenly (Chaney?) mentioning how they got rid of all edibles and concentrates because of those raids.

He said they were all connected to Zonka.

Man, I hope they don't go after Highern Chef next. Seems like the people that do real professional looking packaging are easier targets.
 

BeaverHuntr

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When I was at Top Shelf the other day, I heard the owner Jim Greenly (Chaney?) mentioning how they got rid of all edibles and concentrates because of those raids.

He said they were all connected to Zonka.

Man, I hope they don't go after Highern Chef next. Seems like the people that do real professional looking packaging are easier targets.

Probably because those edibles can get into the hands of minors. I guess candies are easier to hide than a baggie of buds.
 

HB DC

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Haven't seen a legit one!

Nothing in value can be exchanged... !

The folks that will have true success are collectives...

A True Collective.! No smoke screens or mirrors!
 

irieie

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The county atty. Is trying to up the conviction numbers since they have gone down as a result of amma. The criminal state drug laws classify cannabis and marijuana differently. Hence the interpretation from the county atty. Saying all concentrates are illegal.
 

HB DC

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The county atty. Is trying to up the conviction numbers since they have gone down as a result of amma. The criminal state drug laws classify cannabis and marijuana differently. Hence the interpretation from the county atty. Saying all concentrates are illegal.

A new law can't not infringe on other rights or privileges!


4. "Cannabis" means the following substances under whatever names they may be designated:
(a) The resin extracted from any part of a plant of the genus cannabis, and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture or preparation of such plant, its seeds or its resin. Cannabis does not include oil or cake made from the seeds of such plant, any fiber, compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture or preparation of the mature stalks of such plant except the resin extracted from the stalks or any fiber, oil or cake or the sterilized seed of such plant which is incapable of germination.
(b) Every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture or preparation of such resin or tetrahydrocannabinol.

19. "Marijuana" means all parts of any plant of the genus cannabis, from which the resin has not been extracted, whether growing or not, and the seeds of such plant. Marijuana does not include the mature stalks of such plant or the sterilized seed of such plant which is incapable of germination.
 

irieie

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A lawyer put it to me this way:
It only takes a GED to be eligible to become a legislator and write the law. Also the 27 k a year salary does not exactly attract the legal minds which would be able to craft properly written and concise penal code. The prop 203 was written by professional educated lawyers who knew what they were doing and how the law would relate to other laws. It is this very nature which sets the stage for contradictions in our legislation. And until the contradiction is addressed through the legislature or the judiciary, enforcement may choose whichever law they wish to enforce and let the courts system clean up theess.
 
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