i've tried numerous other methods including drugs for my condition. marijuana was kinda a last resort. nothing short of tranquilizers works.
How do I get a Medical License to grow
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i've tried numerous other methods including drugs for my condition. marijuana was kinda a last resort. nothing short of tranquilizers works.
Humboldt
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I have to disagree with that, just because you have a medical card doesn't mean you'll be ok, this includes patients that are dying from cancer etc. also it could depend on your location.
I think a legitimate medical reason depends on the person and how their illness effects their day to day life, as you stated before that's up to the doctor to decide, that's why we have them, well not all doctors are good doctors, as I stated "that in california (specially) there are a lot of doctors that are crooked and just want your 175 - 200 bucks" this is why it's so easy to get a card!
A lot of people are taking advantage of prop 215 including doctors, lawyers, etc. witch is expected but between prop 36 and 215 I think people feel pretty safe.
Not all cases will hold in court and if you get a license for the wrong reasons that only weakens your chances .. period!
i have NEVER heard of someones medical reason questioned in court. i know of several people who have been in trouble with the law. they had medical cards. all there stuff was returned. as long as you stay within the legal boundaries are you MOST LIKELY not going to have any problems. i keep hearing of these people taking advantage of the system but it only seems to come from those who are against medical marijuana. i live in the middle of it all and i have never heard of these "crooked" dr.s. maybe 10 years ago but today they keep a pretty close eye on things. i think it's "so easy" to get a card because marijuana is "so helpful" with so many different ailments. if it gets rid of a headache it's better than aspirin. that stuff rots your gut.
D3adH3ad
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Oh Fdd, I have a really rare immunity to pills. And I'm talking about all pills including Oxy, Percocet, Valium, and tylenol 3. Along with every single other pill out there..They just don't do anything at all.
Not to veer the thread away from its rightful path or anything but has anyone ever heard of this?...
Not to veer the thread away from its rightful path or anything but has anyone ever heard of this?...
Humboldt
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Again I disagree,, prop 215 basically started in california because of prop 36.
Just because you have never heard of doesn't mean it does not exist.
In my experiences with marijuana and headaches, it does not rid of my headaches it simply makes them more tolerable, if my headache goes to migraine then marijuana is useless to me, in fact some pot causes headaches, I don't believe they hand out marijuana for having headaches, I don't think a good doctor will prescribe Marijuana simply for that, I do not believe marijuana is the right drug for headaches specially with migraines.
I suppose aspirin could rot your gut as with any pill, specaily if you are having to take it constantly, however aspirin is not all that bad, they say it's good for your blood and heart.
WHY DON'T THEY JUST MAKE MARIJUANA LEGAL???
The key words are .. heard, of and hearing, have you been to court or do you know these people personally, what facts do you have and how can you say it will be ok?
Just because you have never heard of doesn't mean it does not exist.
I agree, however in some cases that's simply not the case, exactly what is the legal law on 215? it's actually quite confusing if you ask me.
The above line makes no sense to me, being that the very person who posted this thread is trying to take advantage.
So do I .. right in the middle of it, I think it's so easy to get MM because people are simply taking advantage of it, this mainly applies in certain areas such as in california, what I think to be the most lenient state concerning MM, today it's even more confusing as in the past, 10 years ago you'd have to have a death sentence and today you can obtain 215 seems for just about anything, the only thing they are keeping a close eye on is their pocket books.
In my experiences with marijuana and headaches, it does not rid of my headaches it simply makes them more tolerable, if my headache goes to migraine then marijuana is useless to me, in fact some pot causes headaches, I don't believe they hand out marijuana for having headaches, I don't think a good doctor will prescribe Marijuana simply for that, I do not believe marijuana is the right drug for headaches specially with migraines.
I suppose aspirin could rot your gut as with any pill, specaily if you are having to take it constantly, however aspirin is not all that bad, they say it's good for your blood and heart.
WHY DON'T THEY JUST MAKE MARIJUANA LEGAL???
I do not believe marijuana is the right drug for headaches specially with migraines.
I suppose aspirin could rot your gut as with any pill, specaily if you are having to take it constantly, however aspirin is not all that bad, they say it's good for your blood and heart.
WHY DON'T THEY JUST MAKE MARIJUANA LEGAL???[/quote]
the dr. has spoken.
i don't think there is a way to "take advantage". that's where i get stuck. i mean no ill words or disrespect to anyone. i think we all should be able to smoke it. if it benefits you in ANY way then you should be allowed to "use" it.
wait.............just found this...........http://www.canorml.org/.......
Nausea & Appetite Loss
Total: 113 = 4.6%
hepatitis 42
AIDS/HIV 25
cancer* 29
nausea, other 17
* includes chemotherapy patients w/ nausea & others w/ post-operative pain, etc.
Spasms, Convulsions
Total 228 =9.2%
head, brain injury 45
epilepsy 25
spasm 23
quad/paraplegia 21
lower back pain 20
MS 15
colitis 19
pylorospasm 9
post-Polio 7
others 44
(cerebral palsy, Touretteπs, et al.)
Analgesia / ≥Immunomodulatory Anti-Inflammant≤
Total 1133 = 45.7%
(A) Migraine and Neuralgias
Subtotal: 179 = 7.2%
migraine 127
neuropathy 22
sinusitis 12
psychogenic pain 5
other pain, neuralgias 13
I suppose aspirin could rot your gut as with any pill, specaily if you are having to take it constantly, however aspirin is not all that bad, they say it's good for your blood and heart.
WHY DON'T THEY JUST MAKE MARIJUANA LEGAL???[/quote]
the dr. has spoken.
i don't think there is a way to "take advantage". that's where i get stuck. i mean no ill words or disrespect to anyone. i think we all should be able to smoke it. if it benefits you in ANY way then you should be allowed to "use" it.
wait.............just found this...........http://www.canorml.org/.......
Summary of 2480 Medical Marijuana Patients
Interviewed by Dr. Tod Mikuriya
Source: Dale Gieringer, "Medical Use of Cannabis in California," in Franjo Grotenhermen, M.D. & Ethan Russo, M.D., ed., Cannabis and Cannabinoids: Pharmacology, Toxicology and Therapeutic Potential, Haworth Press, 2002
Nausea & Appetite Loss
Total: 113 = 4.6%
hepatitis 42
AIDS/HIV 25
cancer* 29
nausea, other 17
* includes chemotherapy patients w/ nausea & others w/ post-operative pain, etc.
Spasms, Convulsions
Total 228 =9.2%
head, brain injury 45
epilepsy 25
spasm 23
quad/paraplegia 21
lower back pain 20
MS 15
colitis 19
pylorospasm 9
post-Polio 7
others 44
(cerebral palsy, Touretteπs, et al.)
Analgesia / ≥Immunomodulatory Anti-Inflammant≤
Total 1133 = 45.7%
(A) Migraine and Neuralgias
Subtotal: 179 = 7.2%
migraine 127
neuropathy 22
sinusitis 12
psychogenic pain 5
other pain, neuralgias 13
joemomma
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I hear people talk about the system being abused and I have to agree with fdd - that seems to come from people apposed to MM. There are attempts underway to dismantle Oregon's MM program (which actually provides revenue for the state) with a Marinol program funded by the state. (Sorry Oregon taxpayers, our medicine will cost you $60 - $240 per patient per day.) The reasons cited for this were "Abuses of the system" with no actuall cases presented.
So here's my background for the program, without marijuana I have to eat ibuprofen like it was candy and then on several occasions will have to take an opiate and then I get to feel sick and have really fucked up dreams.
With marijuana I will occassionally (very rarely) have to pop a few ibuprofen to get through the day.
It was only by accident that I discovered the benefits of herb for my situation. I changed jobs from a company that took pee to one that didn't give a shit (In a round about way it's actually unofficially sanctioned as a viable after work recriational tool.) so I tarted lighting up again after man, many years.
I struggled with the thought of getting the card. I remember when the MM laws passed here in OR I thought wow that would be cool to get one. (I was a big stoner as a kid) but it's taken me over a year from when I realized I had a legit use for it till I asked my doctor, it was a 3 week dry spell that convinced me to take the plunge. Life really sucked in that short time. I hate those fuckin opiate dreams. Anyhow the point of this grossly inflated story is I dragged my heels because one I didn't want to be percieved as getting over on the system because I recognized that this really was a truly beneficial medical program and I didn't want to blow it for someone else. I also wanted to make sure that I wasn't actually trying to get over on the system because I truly do like to get high. Well those three weeks (and those fuckin dreams!
) convinced me.
The whole deal of shutting down a system because it is abused is just ridiculous. If we shut down all the systems that are abused we would be left without ANY system. No welfare system, no government system, no judicial system, no mail delivery system.. no any system. Seriously.
So here's my background for the program, without marijuana I have to eat ibuprofen like it was candy and then on several occasions will have to take an opiate and then I get to feel sick and have really fucked up dreams.
With marijuana I will occassionally (very rarely) have to pop a few ibuprofen to get through the day.
It was only by accident that I discovered the benefits of herb for my situation. I changed jobs from a company that took pee to one that didn't give a shit (In a round about way it's actually unofficially sanctioned as a viable after work recriational tool.) so I tarted lighting up again after man, many years.
I struggled with the thought of getting the card. I remember when the MM laws passed here in OR I thought wow that would be cool to get one. (I was a big stoner as a kid) but it's taken me over a year from when I realized I had a legit use for it till I asked my doctor, it was a 3 week dry spell that convinced me to take the plunge. Life really sucked in that short time. I hate those fuckin opiate dreams. Anyhow the point of this grossly inflated story is I dragged my heels because one I didn't want to be percieved as getting over on the system because I recognized that this really was a truly beneficial medical program and I didn't want to blow it for someone else. I also wanted to make sure that I wasn't actually trying to get over on the system because I truly do like to get high. Well those three weeks (and those fuckin dreams!
) convinced me.The whole deal of shutting down a system because it is abused is just ridiculous. If we shut down all the systems that are abused we would be left without ANY system. No welfare system, no government system, no judicial system, no mail delivery system.. no any system. Seriously.
Humboldt
Well-Known Member
I don't believe that is actual fact, I'm thinking they are getting their readings from what patients has told them throughout their interviews, also I was referring to me and my headaches/migraines.
I wasn't saying that marijuana cannot help as everybody is different (I simply don't know) I believe that marijuana is not the right drug for headaches/migraines and I haven't seen any reports that you can get MM for those, that's from my experiences, If you happen to run across any please post them.
Agreed!
I hear people talk about the system being abused and I have to agree with fdd - that seems to come from people apposed to MM. There are attempts underway to dismantle Oregon's MM program (which actually provides revenue for the state) with a Marinol program funded by the state. (Sorry Oregon taxpayers, our medicine will cost you $60 - $240 per patient per day.) The reasons cited for this were "Abuses of the system" with no actuall cases presented.
So here's my background for the program, without marijuana I have to eat ibuprofen like it was candy and then on several occasions will have to take an opiate and then I get to feel sick and have really fucked up dreams.
With marijuana I will occassionally (very rarely) have to pop a few ibuprofen to get through the day.
It was only by accident that I discovered the benefits of herb for my situation. I changed jobs from a company that took pee to one that didn't give a shit (In a round about way it's actually unofficially sanctioned as a viable after work recriational tool.) so I tarted lighting up again after man, many years.
I struggled with the thought of getting the card. I remember when the MM laws passed here in OR I thought wow that would be cool to get one. (I was a big stoner as a kid) but it's taken me over a year from when I realized I had a legit use for it till I asked my doctor, it was a 3 week dry spell that convinced me to take the plunge. Life really sucked in that short time. I hate those fuckin opiate dreams. Anyhow the point of this grossly inflated story is I dragged my heels because one I didn't want to be percieved as getting over on the system because I recognized that this really was a truly beneficial medical program and I didn't want to blow it for someone else. I also wanted to make sure that I wasn't actually trying to get over on the system because I truly do like to get high. Well those three weeks (and those fuckin dreams!
The whole deal of shutting down a system because it is abused is just ridiculous. If we shut down all the systems that are abused we would be left without ANY system. No welfare system, no government system, no judicial system, no mail delivery system.. no any system. Seriously.
what he said.....
joemomma
Well-Known Member
If you get these headaches often then that means you have Chronic Pain. I don't know how all the states MM stuff works but Chronic Pain is covered by most I believe.
It may also be that it doesn't work for some people. I've read that canabis is beneficial for hypertention well, not for me, I still have to use pharma for that. people have different chemistry and not all things work the same for everyone.
As for should it be legalized? I truly believe that anybody wants to spark up some green want to, they should be able to.
Humboldt
Well-Known Member
I agree with a lot of what you had to say, however I don't think they pay taxes in Oregon, except for maybe property taxes.
Migraines I guess would be classified as chronic pain but then again I haven't seen or heard of any reports of MM being prescribed for headaches/migraines, if that's the case then everybody could have a card.
If you don't mind me asking, what are you taking ibuprofen and opiates for.
joemomma
Well-Known Member
Get the fuck out of here! (I'm saying that with a big smile.) There is no state sales tax but at least one city I know of (the one I work in) has a resteraunt tax, so if you eat there you pay tax on the sales. Sales tax is the only tax we don't pay and believe me they tax the shit out of everything else, including income.
Don't mind at all. I have a degenerated disk in my neck, it's kinda deflated and allows a vertabrae to pinch one of the main nerves going into my left arm. the first symptoms I noticed was that when putting my neck in certain positions my arm would go numb. then it started feeling like there was a hot wire running up my arm. Other times it would feel like wierd elictric impulses like my arm had suddenly become a big flashy neon light except that it hurt and didn't look all Vegas noir
, other times it felt like something was crushing or stabbing my forearm, most of the time though it's like lightning running from my neck to my fingers. I also have spasticity in my left Trapezius from an accident when I was twenty It causes my necj to stiffen and every once in a while I'lll wake up and my head is pulled over to my left shoulder and is stuck that way for a day or two. My doctor and I both think it's the spasticity that caused the disk to where out.MM relieves the pain quite a bit, I still feel it, like a lump in my neck a tingle in my fingers and some slight pressure in my forearm but it's at a level I can really push through. I only get high in the evening but it helps me the next day too even though I'm not high, about 3:00 though I'm wishing it was 5:00 so I could leave work and get a little relief with the MM.
medical.use
Well-Known Member
Ashland Oregon has a sales tax in there little town. Oregon property tax sucks, i just got hit with a $1800 bill.
eatspam
Well-Known Member
I would think if you were lie to get a med card, or go to a crooked Dr. and you weren't sick, I would assume you'd also be done for fraud along with cultivation, possession, possibly intent to sell, and if its illegal in your state drug paraphernalia.
do you really think its worth it?
I'd just grow without the license, at least that way theres no fraud involved, that shit can fuck your life up. you wont be able to get a credit card, any form of loan, in some cases you may not even be able to get an internet connection!
do you really think its worth it?
I'd just grow without the license, at least that way theres no fraud involved, that shit can fuck your life up. you wont be able to get a credit card, any form of loan, in some cases you may not even be able to get an internet connection!
choppers4life
New Member
that's funny i just got mine in mail today. if you want to know how pm me, i will say this i dont have chronic pain,m.s.,aids,cancer,or that eye diease
dankie
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That aint shit! In TX we don't have state tax, but our property taxes are ridiculous. My house is valued at 174,000 I got a 5200 dollar property tax bill!Ashland Oregon has a sales tax in there little town. Oregon property tax sucks, i just got hit with a $1800 bill.