how do some gromies get autos that don’t start flowering for 60+ days

Cvntcrusher

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the title says it all! i primarily run photoperiods. but everytime i get some freebies that are fem autos, i pull out some 3g pots and run them! i have some that flip on week 3 some flip as late as week 5!

but i’ve never had an autoflower fill up a 3x3 or a 4x4

are there such seeds as longer veg autos?
 

VincenzioVonHook

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the title says it all! i primarily run photoperiods. but everytime i get some freebies that are fem autos, i pull out some 3g pots and run them! i have some that flip on week 3 some flip as late as week 5!

but i’ve never had an autoflower fill up a 3x3 or a 4x4

are there such seeds as longer veg autos?
Ikr. All mine have been between day 19 and 28 for pre flower. Some of them filled a 2x4 by themselves and pulled 5-7 Oz, but a lot also flowered day 19-21 and only pulled around 2.5-3oz.
 

MATTYMATT726

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the title says it all! i primarily run photoperiods. but everytime i get some freebies that are fem autos, i pull out some 3g pots and run them! i have some that flip on week 3 some flip as late as week 5!

but i’ve never had an autoflower fill up a 3x3 or a 4x4

are there such seeds as longer veg autos?
Genetics play a role. Free seeds are usually free for a reason. Older stock, good but less than stellar end product, on and on. Doesn't mean they can't be good, but again.... they aren't free because they are hot on the market. Not all auto "breeders" are the same. That $12 bottle of corner store Vodka isn't the same as a 20 year old bottle of Crown just because they are both alcohol. Everyone knows it all here, especially the one's that don't even grow autos. That's my opinion. Experience from my grows and what i see is coco or other hydro mediums will make them veg longer than soil. Topping and training will cause longer veg periods. Obviously looking for strains that say large or 250/300+ grams per plant, Sativa dom plant and s/f1s that will have more vigor and jist grow plain faster and almost no stopping are all things to look for. 3 gal even if coco/hydro won't fill a 4x4. Maybe 3x3 if all else falls into place, but still betring you'll need 5 gal and if soil, well i don't grow that way.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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Genetics play a role. Free seeds are usually free for a reason. Older stock, good but less than stellar end product, on and on. Doesn't mean they can't be good, but again.... they aren't free because they are hot on the market. Not all auto "breeders" are the same. That $12 bottle of corner store Vodka isn't the same as a 20 year old bottle of Crown just because they are both alcohol. Everyone knows it all here, especially the one's that don't even grow autos. That's my opinion. Experience from my grows and what i see is coco or other hydro mediums will make them veg longer than soil. Topping and training will cause longer veg periods. Obviously looking for strains that say large or 250/300+ grams per plant, Sativa dom plant and s/f1s that will have more vigor and jist grow plain faster and almost no stopping are all things to look for. 3 gal even if coco/hydro won't fill a 4x4. Maybe 3x3 if all else falls into place, but still betring you'll need 5 gal and if soil, well i don't grow that way.
Defo agree with the sativa dom aspect when it comes to autos. The autos I've got far bigger yields off have all been sativa dom.. most of the indicas stack real tight and end up about 2-2.5ft tall, while the sativa doms like AK420 have filled a 2x4 and ended up with 2ft long colas easy. The extra few weeks flower was well worth it.
 

MATTYMATT726

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This was my Mephisto Mang Smile 85% Sativa iirc. Had to search my history here for it and this was 87 days. Not sure where finish photos are as i never do real journals, just updated photos wherever. I did start a thread here in auto section and it went to 79 days before not posting. In the journal i was only even using 1 135 watt Quantum Board led on her. That was in my preferred medium Royal Gold Tupar. It's like a coco, but dries out quicker.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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This was my Mephisto Mang Smile 85% Sativa iirc. Had to search my history here for it and this was 87 days. Not sure where finish photos are as i never do real journals, just updated photos wherever. I did start a thread here in auto section and it went to 79 days before not posting. In the journal i was only even using 1 135 watt Quantum Board led on her. That was in my preferred medium Royal Gold Tupar. It's like a coco, but dries out quicker.
This was an AK 420 auto I'm a 70x70 lol. It became a Serious hassle...this wasn't even half way through stretch. Got 5.5 weeks veg out of it.
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Another AK half way through flower. It ended up thicc as fuck. Only got four weeks veg out of it. Would have been Insane with another week or two.
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These were a while ago so I'm spewing I don't have more pics.

The indica Dom's haven't went as well size wise. They average around here give or take Have had 7 Oz GDPs, but most of the indicas Dom's were between 2-3 Oz.
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Week4@inCharge

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Defo agree with the sativa dom aspect when it comes to autos. The autos I've got far bigger yields off have all been sativa dom.. most of the indicas stack real tight and end up about 2-2.5ft tall, while the sativa doms like AK420 have filled a 2x4 and ended up with 2ft long colas easy. The extra few weeks flower was well worth it.
This ^ I have this exact same thing going on right now in my 4x2. On the right, a 2 foot Indica dominate strain. On the left, a 4ft Sativa dominate strain... :roll:
 

pahpah-cee

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I’ll run multiple strains of autos in the same room. I put ‘em all in 5gal of soil. LST them to have a even canopy.

the flowering comes when it comes. Usually mine all start flowering around the same time, within a few weeks of each other. From what I’ve gathered, they will start flowering when their root network fills out their pot. Autos kind of just take you on a ride. Just gotta hang on to them and try to anticipate the switch with your nutrients.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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This ^ I have this exact same thing going on right now in my 4x2. On the right, a 2 foot Indica dominate strain. On the left, a 4ft Sativa dominate strain... :roll:
The struggle is real. Still doing far better than me this round.

I have the worst auto this run, 2 foot would be a dream lol. Woke up to pre flowers yesterday at like day 17 with this one.
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This is by far the earliest pre flower I've had lol. To put it into perspective, that's only a 12" pot lol...

Not taking chances this time...have a Gatorslade frost auto bottom left, an amnesia haze auto bottom right, BC mango reg middle and 2 white widow regs up the top.
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I'm paranoid I'll get another dud now lol.
 
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