how do you transport dirt and water for guerilla grow?

hello rollupers
planning on a 20 plants outdoor grow this summer
i ll be doing 7 think differents
3 royal queen auto ak
and 10 dna 60 day wonder

question is that how can u move that much dirt to a guerilla growing spot
my spot is 50 minutes walk from the parking lot
i m thinking of doing 5 gallon smart pots
that would be 100 gallon of dirt
how in the world can u carry that much dirt with you?
is it possible to just grow in the wild nature soil? since i m gonna use ff nutes line does it make a difference what type of dirt i use? for now i m thinking pro mix hp soil.

Thanks ahead for any replies!

if you can't get that Mohammad to come to you .,..you gotta go to Mohammad..? llol

20 autos for 3 months grow, at 1x us gallon per month =60 us gallons, or 2-3 bags of poop ..is not difficult, avoid the local soil at all costs, way to much of an issue, unless you know your soils and can amend..?
the real issue here is water, thats what you really got to work on...and now before you germ

I'd be sticking to one strain for a correct and bountiful harvest!

vostok said:

if you can't get that Mohammad to come to you .,..you gotta go to Mohammad..? llol

20 autos for 3 months grow, at 1x us gallon per month =60 us gallons, or 2-3 bags of poop ..is not difficult, avoid the local soil at all costs, way to much of an issue, unless you know your soils and can amend..?
the real issue here is water, thats what you really got to work on...and now before you germ

I'd be sticking to one strain for a correct and bountiful harvest!

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You nailed that one! Water... If you have to hike in the water every time it needs watering - Make sure you can commit the time and effort to being the water mule. As the plants mature they will need a heeck of a lot more water as the months go by...

A deer got a friend of mines grow after 4 mo. of growth. He put up chicken wire... The deer had a smorgasbord of three strains. He had tapped into a water pipe that fed an orange grove - ran a garden hose (cover over by dirt) down the hill to a hollowed out growth of tall bushes.

I disagree with the native soils. If the native soil is rich then you can do a mix of 50/50. That literally just cut down on 50% of the soil needed to carry in and could be less soil needed if you have awesome native soil.
I go with the 50/50 and i have decent soil in my location.
The good thing about native soil is that it already has a lot of beneficial bacteria etc in it, and often times you'll end up getting some worms and other beneficial creatures to join your plants.
As for water, I recently found some nice 5 gallon collapsable jugs at walmart. They were like 8.50 a piece, and are very durable, close tightly and have steady handles on them.
I know a lot about carrying in dirt and water. Most of that comes with planning. I currently have about 80 outside (guerrilla style) right now with another 70 going in the next couple weeks.

Flexible poly piping for water. If there is a war source nearby you can run poly from it to your garden. If the water source is up hill from your garden you can just use gravity. If it isn't a gas powered pump works great

My spot is near my cabin so I can park and carry soil in without anyone ever seeing me. Soil there is basically non existent because of being in Rocky Mountains. But yes water is your biggest concern. 50 minute walk is goin to be brutal with 20-30 gallons of water. Hope for rain...

Well you're going to turn into a beast hauling that much water. Go throw a gallon jug on a scale and think about it. If there's not available water then build yourself a rainbucket or 3. Hit up a dollar general. Find the biggest lightest trash barrels. Hail em out there. Stick them at the bottom of a tree. Rig up a rain tarp up top with a hose going down into the barrel. You'll want to cut a small hole where the rain will collect in the center. Stick the hose in and duct tape the crap out of it. Think of a funnel. That's what you're shooting for with the tarp and hose. An hour of rain should top off a 50 gallon barrel no problem. Smart pots are going to dry out quick though. As far as hauling out your dirt I say open up your bags and let them dry out. The difference from not having moisture will cut the weight considerably.

I would ammend the soil over using smart pots outside personally. My girls are doing good just mixing native soil with promix. I just hauled out a 5 gallon bucket. Dig and fill it to 3 gallons. Filled the rest with promix. Mix it up nice and even. Dump it back in the hole. It ends up as a mound. Rain takes care of watering.

use a shopping cart.

vostok said:

if you can't get that Mohammad to come to you .,..you gotta go to Mohammad..? llol

20 autos for 3 months grow, at 1x us gallon per month =60 us gallons, or 2-3 bags of poop ..is not difficult, avoid the local soil at all costs, way to much of an issue, unless you know your soils and can amend..?
the real issue here is water, thats what you really got to work on...and now before you germ

I'd be sticking to one strain for a correct and bountiful harvest!

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hey thx for the reply
i ll be doing 3 strains in 3 locations cuz i feel like if i do em together it could be risky to be spotted

yea i know water is an issue too, there are water sources near the spot but still takes about 40 minutes to go there and go back.

came to ontario from bc, water wasnt really an issue back home.

UncleBuck said:

use a shopping cart.

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i m not sure if ur just kidding but i had actually thought about that but its too much tension probly wont do it

MonkeyGrinder said:

I would ammend the soil over using smart pots outside personally. My girls are doing good just mixing native soil with promix. I just hauled out a 5 gallon bucket. Dig and fill it to 3 gallons. Filled the rest with promix. Mix it up nice and even. Dump it back in the hole. It ends up as a mound. Rain takes care of watering.

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thx for the reply!
so u take 5 gal if dirt every time?
do u lift the bucket with ur hand or do u use a backpack?
how many plants do u have?

Reeferfish said:

My spot is near my cabin so I can park and carry soil in without anyone ever seeing me. Soil there is basically non existent because of being in Rocky Mountains. But yes water is your biggest concern. 50 minute walk is goin to be brutal with 20-30 gallons of water. Hope for rain...

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thx for the reply!
how often would u water a 5 gal pot with how much water?
indoor i would use about 1 gallon and water every 7 days early stages
never grow outdoor before so just trying to figure out the frequency i need to water the trees
cheers!

Nugs1 said:

I disagree with the native soils. If the native soil is rich then you can do a mix of 50/50. That literally just cut down on 50% of the soil needed to carry in and could be less soil needed if you have awesome native soil.
I go with the 50/50 and i have decent soil in my location.
The good thing about native soil is that it already has a lot of beneficial bacteria etc in it, and often times you'll end up getting some worms and other beneficial creatures to join your plants.
As for water, I recently found some nice 5 gallon collapsable jugs at walmart. They were like 8.50 a piece, and are very durable, close tightly and have steady handles on them.
I know a lot about carrying in dirt and water. Most of that comes with planning. I currently have about 80 outside (guerrilla style) right now with another 70 going in the next couple weeks.

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wow 80 plants thats huge!
if ur doing this by yourself i m paying mad respect to you!!
what size pots do you use for your plants and how much water does it take to water one plant?
thx for the reply have have a great day!

Final Phase said:

You nailed that one! Water... If you have to hike in the water every time it needs watering - Make sure you can commit the time and effort to being the water mule. As the plants mature they will need a heeck of a lot more water as the months go by...

A deer got a friend of mines grow after 4 mo. of growth. He put up chicken wire... The deer had a smorgasbord of three strains. He had tapped into a water pipe that fed an orange grove - ran a garden hose (cover over by dirt) down the hill to a hollowed out growth of tall bushes.

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man thats why i try to use autos and hope for a quick harvest, deers animals humans... i thought chicken wire works though, what else can you use to keep wild life away?

it does sound like your location needs improving, anyways hunting out spots is best done in winter

vostok said:

it does sound like your location needs improving, anyways hunting out spots is best done in winter

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i can choose somewhere thats not so far away from the parking lot but i feel like that could add risk of getting my crops spotted
and i live in southern ontario, cant really look for spots during winter cuz everythings covered with snow

80 lol, my total for this year will be 150. All in different spots some easier than others.
I had help with 52, I cleared the spots through this winter and been digging holes since March.
Don't risk the security, its not worth it.

I don't have mine in pots outdoors I'm in south east US so I have a pretty good growing season. At a minimum I dig a 2 ft x 2 ft hole. That'd be about a 5 gallon bucket probably, I'm also not looking for a kilo each. hoping to get about 4-8 ounces off each. As far as the watering goes, well I leave it mostly up to nature, but we have been in a dry spell (hopefully turning around, fingers crossed) so i had to lug in 120lbs of water 3 different times to keep them wet.
Mind you they are still only about 2-2 1/2ft tall so they don't need much water to thrive but soon they will need a lot more than I'm gonna want to carry.
One thing to keep in mind, if you have to carry up the water then don't let it just be plain water. Give them some nutes and let nature give them some plain fresh water (rain).
Also 1 gallon of water is 8 pounds. So you'll get fit soon lol but it will always be worth it.

beastbub said:

i can choose somewhere thats not so far away from the parking lot but i feel like that could add risk of getting my crops spotted
and i live in southern ontario, cant really look for spots during winter cuz everythings covered with snow

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I see your problem there, so it sounds like to me that right now is when you need to be scouting out locations for next year. Try google satellite/ google earth it really does help.

Nugs1 said:

I see your problem there, so it sounds like to me that right now is when you need to be scouting out locations for next year. Try google satellite/ google earth it really does help.

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yea i ve checked out locations using google earth to find spots near water and far from trails, recently checked em out in person, i might just do a 6 plants grow this summer and grow em in 3 gallon pots so i have much more energy to take care of em and 18 gallon dirt and water would be much easier compared to 100 gallon haha