freddiemoney
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If black lights are good enough for photosynthesis, then why not use them for veg? Photosynthesis is what you're after in veg. You're really lining up the naysayers now. Time to prove us all wrong...
how does a plant know that it is dark?
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ricardezra
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i know this you still need hid or cfls.but when the lights are off you can induce photosynthesis and the plant will still think its dark.that is helpful because plants dont photosynthesis at night. it could be possible to make a plant that takes 9 or 10 weeks to flower,make it finish in 6 or 7
DUBS Doobious
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I dont understand. explain it to me very carefully and in complete sentences please.
moash
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freddiemoney
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What makes you think you can induce photosynthesis at night with a black light alone if you still need to use HID or CFL in order to make a plant veg?
ricardezra
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well blue spectrum is the photosynthesis color along with red but you cant use red because the plant will think the lights on.all you have to do is add green and you have white light. so yes i believe you can make a plant photosynthesis at night with blue lightit is not photosynthesising in the dark
its not doing anything but growing the way its supposed to...so u think,since the plant got bigger in the dark phase while u had the black light on,it must be working
u have found a break through in cannabis cultivation!!!!!!!keep it up
kylecole420
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You would make a damn fine christian because even though logic says your wrong your going to defend this shit to the death.
ricardezra
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thats because i have to explain why would you want to make a plant photosynthesis at night duhh
ricardezra
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how many times do i have to say I know that
ricardezra
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but when the lights are off i believe you can make the plant photosynthesis at night with the blue spectrum until you try it your self how can you argue
freddiemoney
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BUT YOU ARE NOT USING BLUE LIGHT! You are using UV or near UV light which is NOT blue light, nor is it valuable for photosynthesis. Your head is so twisted up around all this light spectrum that you're contradicting yourself and making garish claims like a 3 f$%ing week flowering time reduction.
Give in and do an actual controlled test to prove these claims beyond any doubt, if you really despise charts and book-learnin' and years of greenhouse, nursery and clandestine grow room experience from those who have been experimenting with your "new" ideas for years. I bet you'll find that your black lights are doing nothing for you other than drawing electricity.
moash
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kylecole420
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Do you know anything about photosynthesis. If you do then you know the calvin cyle only happens during the dark period. If you could make the plant photosynthesis at night then the plant would grow at a slower rate. ATP is made during the light hours and even though some of these are converted to glucose they change at a higher rate at night time. Hints why plants tend to grow faster at an 18/6 light cycle than a 24/0 light cycle. Cannabis needs more glucose during the flowering stage than vegging so making the plant photosynthesis 24 7 would actually hurt your buds more than help.
ricardezra
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ok plants tell time by how much light they get right?its the lost of light that makes the plant flower right?well how does it know it lost any light? it knows this because it lost some light. ok well if it knows it lost light.what part does it notice its missing?there are three primary colors red blue and green take these three and you have white. ok marijuana does not use green x that one.red and blue are left.it uses these two for photosynthesis. well if that is the case if you shine blue on them at night they will photosynthesis.how can they stop they love blue spectrum for photosynthesis.you cant use red because that is the spectrum it misses to make it think it dark.how can people argue this lol
kylecole420
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This comes from 6th grade botany. It's not something i just made up are seen on a chart. It is established facts of plant science.
ricardezra
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but its not a full does of it because the red spectrum is missing so its the same ass cutting fertilizer in half they still do what they do just a little bit faster i notice.but your right that is why veging your plants 24/24 hurts a plant you need 16/8
kylecole420
Member
The plant knows it is dark because the calvin cycle begins. The plant doesn't get enough light to keep producing ATP then it says to itself hey it is time to start making glucose. It is just something the plant knows.
DUBS Doobious
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Ok ricardezra. I gave you one last generous chance to make even the slightest bit of sense out of this whole theory.
I got to say my friend you blew it as well as my respect for your opinion on this forum. Please go read up on general photosynthesis and theory. and come back to us when you have done this.
I got to say my friend you blew it as well as my respect for your opinion on this forum. Please go read up on general photosynthesis and theory. and come back to us when you have done this.
freddiemoney
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The plant does not "tell time" like you seem to think it does. It evolved outside, in full-spectrum light and can use a very broad range of spectra to photosynthesize. It does not only use one end of the spectrum for "time telling" and another for active photosynthesis. It does not notice that one is "missing" to know its dark. All you are doing is providing a useless spectrum at night which is having no effect. Think of it like a dog whistle. I could blast on it next to your ear for 12 hours and you wouldn't even notice. In this case the dog whistle represents black light and you are the plants.
If you are triggering active photosynthesis at night you are halting the flowering process and starting green growth instead. How can people argue this?
axelbubba
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Well glucose is sugar.. right??? So sprinkle some sugar on the plant and turn on the black light. Once you you have the plant sugared and the black light on... she will realize she has a shitload of THC, something sweet, and a black light. She then NEEDS a cool poster and some Pink Floyd ASAP!!!! Sounds like fun!!!