how long to veg to get a 1/2 LB

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HitTheBong816

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so i have 4 clones going right now, two of them are about 11 inches tall, one of them is about 9", but very bushy, and the newest little girl is only about 4 inches.

the strains are sour diesel, cheese, alaskan thunderfuck, and 91 chemdawg.

I am using (1) 150W hps, as well as 5 23W cfl's (3)6500K (2) 2700K. vegging with 18/6.

using fox farm nutes, grow big, tiger bloom, and big bloom.

my question is How large should i grow them in veg, to get a 1/2 pound off of each plant, or 1/4 pound... anything that you have experience with i just want something to compare to so i can decide when to flower... I DO realize that it can depend on the strain, but i just want a general idea.

Thanks ahead for any help!
 
farmer frank

farmer frank

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i would think very big ,but sorry to i have a ? for u hahaha how do you start a thread /under your own topic like u did , what do i go under , thanks for your help
 
odbsmydog

odbsmydog

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half pound total maybe, but you arent getting a half pound off each plant with lightng like that. just not enough lght intensity. i would try to get an ounce off each and be happy if you get any more than that. dont expect too much your first time.

my first grow i vegged 3months and had 4 plants under a 1000w and only yeilded a quater pound.
 
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HitTheBong816

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farmer frank said:
i would think very big ,but sorry to i have a ? for u hahaha how do you start a thread /under your own topic like u did , what do i go under , thanks for your help
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ok well you go to forum... up top. then you choose one that you want to go in to, then you click new thread up at the top right

for everybody else... lets not get off topic
 
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AllIDoIsSmokeWeed

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ya i dont think its possible to grow 4 qp plants with those lights.
i mean if you veg for a month in a half youll prolly start stetching them after that but you could try
 
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HitTheBong816

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yeah, i guess i wouldnt expect a qp off each one. i dont really have that much room, but i just want like an idea of how big a plant that produces 1/4 pound, or how big of a plant produces, 1 pound., or 1/2 pound... get it?
thanks for the input
 
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HitTheBong816

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yeah, i guess i wouldnt expect a qp off each one. i dont really have that much room, but i just want like an idea of how big a plant that produces 1/4 pound, or how big of a plant produces, 1 pound., or 1/2 pound... get it?
thanks for the input
 
K1Ng5p4d3

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
Its possible but like its been said, not with the lighting you have.
My last grow that i put up on RIU, i had 5 plants and yielded a 1/2 lb.

Basically if your gonna shell out the dough for those bomb ass strains man, shell out the lil extra dough for a 1000w light. After you get the light, your gonna want to wait until theyre about 8" tall , n then start topping every two weeks, until you have a bush. Once achieved, your gona want to veg your plants for at LEAST 3 months if your looking for 1/2 lb per plant, but even then i dont know if you'd be able to pulll it.

I mean, anything is possible. Do you see what people yield when they grow OUTDOORS? any one of our little plants that we get 2oz from per plant, if taken outdoors and put through the normal grow cycle of nature, can turn into a fuckin 8ft tall bush, with 1lb worth of buds all over it.

Outdoors is obviously the superior way to grow, but if your looking to get similar results indoors, your going to want to use 5-8gal buckets, preferably DwC or some type of recirculating system, and then grow your plants the same way you would outdoors. Make sure you have plenty of headroom, and just let them go veg for as long as humanly possible, or rather as long as you can possibly wait, lol, n then kick them over in to flower. You'd probably need more than One 1000w light system if your looking for 1/2 lb from each of your 4 plants. I'd say aim a bit lower, and shoot for 6-8 oz altogether.

Get yourself a 600w light system for $250, n veg your plants until they are about 14" tall, including the time taken to top your plants twice so you have 4-6 main stalks. Once topped, and recovered, and grown out to 14", then kick your plants into flower. You'll end up with some 4' tall bushes that'll give you anywhere between 2-3 oz of some dank bud.

But there are no garuntees when it comes to growing. Its all about the grower, and what the grower knows about his/her plants. You have to learn a plant's nuances before you can estimate what your yield is gonna be. Its possible to do everything in your power to ensure your gonna get the most bud possible out of your plants for your experience level though, so take some time to read over some grow journals, check out what other people are doing, and find out what seems like the best fit for you. Hell, If i were you, i'd spring for the bigger light, and then just transplant each plant into its own individual BALE of promix, still packaged, and then poke draineage holes in the bottom, and hang my light over them big bitches, lettin them settle in for a nice 3 month veg, n then kick them into high gear. Now theres a thought, lol.

-K1.
 
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AllIDoIsSmokeWeed

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ya the biggest plant I've ever seen was like 7' with 1' pot and like 3+' wide and it got over a pound dried but they had like 2000watts going in a room with 3 plant..
 
Siddhartha

Siddhartha

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You need more light. You'd be doing unrealistically well to get 265 grams from 265 watts. You're probably more likely to yield closer to half that. 133 grams would be a good grow under those lights, so 5 ozs would be realistic, unless you're perfect with all the conditions.

Just get more light,.. the longer you veg, the taller they'll get and you'll have the lights more spread out. With more lights,.. you could veg 6 weeks and probably hit your mark.
 
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HitTheBong816

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K1Ng5p4d3 said:
Its possible but like its been said, not with the lighting you have.
My last grow that i put up on RIU, i had 5 plants and yielded a 1/2 lb.

Basically if your gonna shell out the dough for those bomb ass strains man, shell out the lil extra dough for a 1000w light. After you get the light, your gonna want to wait until theyre about 8" tall , n then start topping every two weeks, until you have a bush. Once achieved, your gona want to veg your plants for at LEAST 3 months if your looking for 1/2 lb per plant, but even then i dont know if you'd be able to pulll it.

I mean, anything is possible. Do you see what people yield when they grow OUTDOORS? any one of our little plants that we get 2oz from per plant, if taken outdoors and put through the normal grow cycle of nature, can turn into a fuckin 8ft tall bush, with 1lb worth of buds all over it.

Outdoors is obviously the superior way to grow, but if your looking to get similar results indoors, your going to want to use 5-8gal buckets, preferably DwC or some type of recirculating system, and then grow your plants the same way you would outdoors. Make sure you have plenty of headroom, and just let them go veg for as long as humanly possible, or rather as long as you can possibly wait, lol, n then kick them over in to flower. You'd probably need more than One 1000w light system if your looking for 1/2 lb from each of your 4 plants. I'd say aim a bit lower, and shoot for 6-8 oz altogether.

Get yourself a 600w light system for $250, n veg your plants until they are about 14" tall, including the time taken to top your plants twice so you have 4-6 main stalks. Once topped, and recovered, and grown out to 14", then kick your plants into flower. You'll end up with some 4' tall bushes that'll give you anywhere between 2-3 oz of some dank bud.

But there are no garuntees when it comes to growing. Its all about the grower, and what the grower knows about his/her plants. You have to learn a plant's nuances before you can estimate what your yield is gonna be. Its possible to do everything in your power to ensure your gonna get the most bud possible out of your plants for your experience level though, so take some time to read over some grow journals, check out what other people are doing, and find out what seems like the best fit for you. Hell, If i were you, i'd spring for the bigger light, and then just transplant each plant into its own individual BALE of promix, still packaged, and then poke draineage holes in the bottom, and hang my light over them big bitches, lettin them settle in for a nice 3 month veg, n then kick them into high gear. Now theres a thought, lol.

-K1.
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So, kingspade, i didnt think that shelling out 12 bucks per clone, compares to buying a 1000W HPS, the hps is definately outta my price range...My grow area is only 4' high, by 2' deep, by 4' wide. might be a little much and would require a SHIT LOAD of exhaust, also i can not afford this. I would not expect to get that much off of my plants, i am not that ambitious. and it is only my second grow. i was hoping for 2-3 oz, but now even this seems unattainable. I read a few places about people getting an oz off of a clone, that was taken from the mother, rooted, and then flowered immediately. mine have been vegging for more than 2 weeks(exceot one). Any How that was a lot of good info. And i Do appreciate it. and again, i wasnt exactly saying i was expecting that much off of my plants, i just wanted an idea of what is needed to get about what amounts. You answered my question perfectly. So thanks lot...
 
K1Ng5p4d3

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
no problem bong, sorry if I'm a little long winded, but I'd rather you have an idea of what was needed than to leave the question only partially answered.
Now for the post above this one..

So your saying that if you were to veg a plant for 4 wks and then flower under 1000w of hps, you'd get just as much bud from your plant as I would with a plant vegged topped n trained over 8wks, n then thrown into flower over the same amount of light? Cmon man. Wouldn't even be a comparison.

The intensity of your flowering light is most defintely an integral factor in your grow and ultimately your final yield, but it's the grower, how long he/she vegges the plant, how well the plant is taken care of, how the plant is trained, and other factors that have little to do with lighting, that determine ultimately what the final weight will be.

Any idiot can buy a 1000w light n call himself a grower. Doesn't mean that they are one..

So u keep living by that philosophy man, I ain't hatin' on u :D n good luck!
 
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decrim68

Active Member
K1Ng5p4d3 said:
Its all about the grower, and what the grower knows about his/her plants. You have to learn a plant's nuances before you can estimate what your yield is gonna be.

-K1.
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Pay attention folks, this has to be one of the most factual statements you will ever see on a forum.

I am in my 40's and if there is one thing I have learned in the last 20 years it is this. KNOWING your strain is vital to having consistently superior grows.

I have been growing skunk #1 for 12 years. I know what that strain is going to do before it knows what it is going to do. I have seen everything (good and bad) that this strain can throw at me. I have mastered this strain, I achieve full potential every grow.

Now throw some new uber-awesome super blueberry rice krispy oreo cookie blast from hell strain at me and I am apt to F it up left and right for the first couple of grows.

Familiarity breeds success, folks.
 
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CSR7

Member
This is probably this single most impressive grow I've ever come across reading numerous forums...congrats.

You've gone beyond the "number bragging" most posters salivate over...into gardening artistry...beautiful man, just beautiful!!

Would you be so kind as to email me back a link (or list) indicating: to [email protected]
-Your training/topping methods
-How far is the Screen (I'm assuming you refer to this method as SCROG (or some version of SCROG)...from the grow surface?
-Feeding Program - method
-Light moving method
 
mexiblunt

mexiblunt

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That an impressive scrog! I've done a few myself, found them to be alot of work, and I didn't move my light. I find the only benifit from scrog is if # of plants is an issue. I only have a 250 hps in a cool tube cab, and a small closet veg w 4 cfl's. 1 mother 6 clones 6 flowering pulls avg 7oz every 7 weeks! That's an oz a week all year long or 3.25 pounds a year. 2hrs every 7 weeks to transplant and take clones, 15 mins to water every 4th day. Alot less work. But these guys said it, ya gota know your strain well!
 
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