How many cfl lights would I need to grow 4 plants and what wattage should they be?

cmbajr

Active Member
I want to use cfl lights through the whole process and I am thinking 6 85 watt cfl lights over all 4 plants in a little grow box will do but I want a better opinion...
 

CaptainCarnival

Active Member
do you mean the bulbs are actually 85w or are they 85w equivalent because most people say that when using CFLs you want about 100w per plant minimum
 

panda350

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I currently are doing my first CFL grow, Im a outdoor grower normally and have no indoor experience till now.

Day 36 from seed:


They are happy, FFOF, using full FF regiment including beastie bloomz. (expcdeting open sesame and cha ching (these are autos flowrs..)

They are 4x Double Diesel Ryder Autoflower by Sagarmatha Seeds. and 1x Random bag seed i(in the red pot) Bagseed plant is 47 days old today :)

Current light setup is

20/4 on off , 900 watts CFL, 4x 100watt 6500k bulbs. 2x 150 2700k watt 1x 200watt 2700k (veg up to week 3 was mostly 6500k cfls, this was changed a bit to more 2700k at onset of flowering. Butt wattage the entire time has been maintained at 900-1000 watts.


Hope that gives ya an idea :D Some have told me thats over kill, the girls love it :)
 

PJ Diaz

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I currently are doing my first CFL grow, Im a outdoor grower normally and have no indoor experience till now.

Day 36 from seed:


They are happy, FFOF, using full FF regiment including beastie bloomz. (expcdeting open sesame and cha ching (these are autos flowrs..)

They are 4x Double Diesel Ryder Autoflower by Sagarmatha Seeds. and 1x Random bag seed i(in the red pot) Bagseed plant is 47 days old today :)

Current light setup is

20/4 on off , 900 watts CFL, 4x 100watt 6500k bulbs. 2x 150 2700k watt 1x 200watt 2700k (veg up to week 3 was mostly 6500k cfls, this was changed a bit to more 2700k at onset of flowering. Butt wattage the entire time has been maintained at 900-1000 watts.


Hope that gives ya an idea :D Some have told me thats over kill, the girls love it :)
If I were you I would ditch those reflectors and put the bulbs horizontal instead of vertical. Most of the light in cfls come from the side of the bulb, not the bottom. Those reflectors don't really do much for cfls because you need to get the light real close, and by time the light is reflected it's real disbursed already.

I use HPS for flower, but have a smaller clone/veg chamber that I use cfls in. Here's how I do it:

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Also, is what you're calling 900 watts really 900 watts, or are you are looking at the incandescent equalivant rating, which is meaningless for our purposes. If it's really 900 watts of cfl, you are totally wasteing your energy. Just get a 600 watt HPS and save some money every month, plus grow fatter nugs. If you are looking at the equalivant, then it's more like 200 watts.
 

panda350

Member
yea, I was talking equivalent. So thats about 200watts huh? oh well, they love the shit out of it, and in 3 weeks i will have my 600watt hps/mh setup :) to finish these off, the n start my DP Think different auto hempy bucket and bubblegum hempy bucket grow. :)
 

Ringsixty

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Should be OK. Then again you have to be realistic about the results.
I did 7 plants with 3- 105 watt CFLs
They came out pretty good for a CFL grow.
Chop down in 7 days from now.:bigjoint:
 

yesum

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If I were you I would ditch those reflectors and put the bulbs horizontal instead of vertical. Most of the light in cfls come from the side of the bulb, not the bottom. Those reflectors don't really do much for cfls because you need to get the light real close, and by time the light is reflected it's real disbursed already.

I use HPS for flower, but have a smaller clone/veg chamber that I use cfls in. Here's how I do it:

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Also, is what you're calling 900 watts really 900 watts, or are you are looking at the incandescent equalivant rating, which is meaningless for our purposes. If it's really 900 watts of cfl, you are totally wasteing your energy. Just get a 600 watt HPS and save some money every month, plus grow fatter nugs. If you are looking at the equalivant, then it's more like 200 watts.
If I were you I would keep the reflectors as they double the light as measured by my lux meter. I think you have y splitters for the bulbs. If so, you are getting a lot of light off the sides of the bulbs and the intensity of the light is doubled, as the bulbs blend the light coming off the sides of each bulb. Only drawback is heat trapped by the reflectors, a little fan fixes that if necessary.

At flower I can get cfl's as close as 1 inch from the buds. It is a game of inches with cfl.
 

omar924

Active Member
If I were you I would ditch those reflectors and put the bulbs horizontal instead of vertical. Most of the light in cfls come from the side of the bulb, not the bottom. Those reflectors don't really do much for cfls because you need to get the light real close, and by time the light is reflected it's real disbursed already.

I use HPS for flower, but have a smaller clone/veg chamber that I use cfls in. Here's how I do it:

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Also, is what you're calling 900 watts really 900 watts, or are you are looking at the incandescent equalivant rating, which is meaningless for our purposes. If it's really 900 watts of cfl, you are totally wasteing your energy. Just get a 600 watt HPS and save some money every month, plus grow fatter nugs. If you are looking at the equalivant, then it's more like 200 watts.
i did not know i should have my bulbs horizontal! thanks for the heads up! ima rearrange my lights now :)
 

yesum

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You will not get much more light from the sides than the bottom if you do not have a reflector, I know cause I used the lux meter on both. You will get quite a bit more light from the sides if you use a reflector, as there is more surface area on all sides than just the bottom. Again, y splitter with a reflector will give you the most lumens than any other method I know of.

I missed answering the first question... Anyways, I would say you need at minimum, 50 watts actual cfl light for each 1 foot tall plant. I can grow a little plant with 2 26 watt cfl's in a y splitter with clamp reflector just fine. Without a good reflector the 52 watts would be inadequate imo. 100 or so watts would be preferable for a single plant. I have seen excellent 100 watts grows using horizontal positioned lights and just a flat metal strip glued above the lights(for reflection) on the ceiling of the grow box.
 

Bleezyboy1990

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You will not get much more light from the sides than the bottom if you do not have a reflector, I know cause I used the lux meter on both. You will get quite a bit more light from the sides if you use a reflector, as there is more surface area on all sides than just the bottom. Again, y splitter with a reflector will give you the most lumens than any other method I know of.

I missed answering the first question... Anyways, I would say you need at minimum, 50 watts actual cfl light for each 1 foot tall plant. I can grow a little plant with 2 26 watt cfl's in a y splitter with clamp reflector just fine. Without a good reflector the 52 watts would be inadequate imo. 100 or so watts would be preferable for a single plant. I have seen excellent 100 watts grows using horizontal positioned lights and just a flat metal strip glued above the lights(for reflection) on the ceiling of the grow box.
For what he is talking about sidemounted lights will be fine. 99% of micro grow boxes are mini reflectors in themselves.
But you will want at lease 50 actual watts a plant for your size grow
 

spex420

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check out sungod lights on ebay i have x4 150w they are 8u so its like having 2 150s for the price of one they burn my plants a foot away the output on those jokers are insane 1 would be okay for 4 plants
 

RamboAK47

Member
Everyone on here shared a good point
Cfls are good because if you buy a cfl that says something like "200w equivalent" than it ACTUALLY only uses like 55-40w of power and your plants are ACTUALLY getting 200w which is why i use them alot.....you should make sure you try to get at least above 3000 lumens for each cfl when in the vegetative state....but i have a 5000 lumen x 3800 lumens x 3000 lumens and my plants are growing fineMy bitches.jpg
200w, 250w, 150w
 

PJ Diaz

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Everyone on here shared a good point
Cfls are good because if you buy a cfl that says something like "200w equivalent" than it ACTUALLY only uses like 55-40w of power and your plants are ACTUALLY getting 200w which is why i use them alot.....you should make sure you try to get at least above 3000 lumens for each cfl when in the vegetative state....but i have a 5000 lumen x 3800 lumens x 3000 lumens and my plants are growing fineView attachment 2068968
200w, 250w, 150w
I don't think you understand what "equivalent" really means in this context. A 100 watt equivalent means that it looks the same to your eye an a 100 watt incandescent, NOT the same as a 100 watt HPS or MH light. Also, your plants are NOT "ACTUALLY getting 200w". Watts is a unit of electrical measurement, which does not directly correlate to light output at all. You are burning a certain amount of power (watts) to attain a certain light output that plants can use. Relative to HPS and MH lights, cfls are very inefficient n terms of lumens per watt.
 
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