you aint bullshittin, if we did'nt "shop around" we probably would'nt have half the shit we got! Free shit is great! and i dont mind gettin my ballest from the electrical supply joint and wiring myself. That save me a ton right there!on this current grow, it has been a few years and i had to buy new stuff, i have put in round 500 bucks. need to put in another 500 to be where i want to be. this is because i get free plywood and building supplies from my work and i shop around alot. other wise i would be in way more.