How Much do you Spend on Soil

Nice work freaky

I'll still use some Maxsea also. Maybe every 2 weeks.
Maxsea has lots of good trace elements, it's seaweed.

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doublejj

Thanks doublejj......my plan is to make your jaw drop at harvest this year, and hopefully your body and mind a lil numb too!!!!

I'm up for that!
Good luck

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doublejj

I will be there when you are ready for mixin DJJ!

Thanks DJJ I went to a couple of my favorite places in Berkeley I found it. Like I said to TMB we all get to the same place using different methods. It wasnt a bad price either I could make that up with all the amendments I got. Good info too know though I learned what they take out and leave in from veg to bloom only one ingredient is the difference. If I had the land some of you guys got I would show you monsters. I love my 2lb urban backyard bushes. Also I dont worry about rippers either.keepem green dirrtyd

I would say 20$ for a grow of around 4 plants all the way through, but since I am again trying a perpetual type thing I have no idea how much that actually translates to...lol. I just buy more soil when I run out...it's $20 a bag and I have quite a few different plants going presently so I think it is worth $20 a month or so...Also I am going to try to start a nice little compost pile, in which case I can just put the old soil in and have it further the causes at hand.

Gastanker said:

Check local soil makers. I have two local earthworm farms which sell all grades of amazing soil by the yard. Much much cheaper than buying bags of FF or any other potting soil and it works much much better imo. Just amend into your favorite super soil and wallah!

Of course you can't argue with doublejj's results. lol fing monsters.

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depends on your budget!! derrrr, and if you spend it wisely. some local suppliers are good, some not. some have been known to introduce soil-borne problems. big holes can sometimes equal big plants, however they need lots of dirt to fill them. spending wisely on huge holes can definitely pay off.

i spend about 400 hundred on 50 plants. on truck load mushroom soil 30dollars. 100lbs of alpha pellts. 5 baills of straw. 10lbs of bone meal. 10 pounds of azamite. 2 opunds of powder oster shells. 4 bails of peat. and worms. first i add bone meal every yr. i think it takes a yr to become active. so dont add more then your plant needs. cause next yr it will have twice as much. i add alapha pellets to bottom of evry 3 foot deep hole i dig. and a coffee can full. i also add azzamite evey 2 yrs. oster shell every yr with bone meal. i add worms live living worms evry fall at harvest. and when i dig in spring there everywhere. allso cover with straw. o and i forgot the composted chicken shit. i add in the fall. mulch with straw it breaks down in time for flowering and gives a nice kick to them. i add sulfer before flowering to the top of the hole area and around it. i use mg rose bloom i find it kills mold growing in the ground killing spores before they start. i had no mold last yr in the north east. also save egg shells. and add them everytime i check the plants. after a yr or two your spot wont need any help.

Just out of curiousity, is there just something wrong with the native soil that you just won't amend that? If you have proper drainage, you cant beat natural soil amended with some compost and EWC. Microcolony is already there and waiting!

I don't ammend native soil because I use smart pots

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doublejj

I just like smart pot type containers and actually I will be adding and amending native soil as well, the containers wont be the only trees around, you'll see!!!

the soil in our area is atcually quite good. Dark black soil but it is pretty thick and clay-ee

last year i used peat moss, perlite, and a locally made soil along with 50% native soil

I feel like im just overthinking all of this haha

I had "assumed" that you were "in-ground" when I heard outside. Still and all, I'd be all about using natural soil (amended) especially if you have a good rich black loam. In Ga, we know clay. Believe me. You HAVE to amend this crap. In the NW U.S., the mostly volcanic soil there is almost perfect!! What part of the country are you in?

Im in Minnesota

I am growing in holes, 4x3 to be exact

the soil in my area i pretty good i think.

Should i just use the native soil and loosen it up with peat moss and perlite and just skip the bagged potting soil?

Along with dry fert. amendments?

What about like 50% native soil, 25% peat and perlite, then 25% bag soil? +EWC and other amendments?

I just dont want the soil to be to thick and dense

catmando said:

Im in Minnesota

I am growing in holes, 4x3 to be exact

the soil in my area i pretty good i think.

Should i just use the native soil and loosen it up with peat moss and perlite and just skip the bagged potting soil?

Along with dry fert. amendments?

What about like 50% native soil, 25% peat and perlite, then 25% bag soil? +EWC and other amendments?

I just dont want the soil to be to thick and dense

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Man that's exactly what I'd do. Use as much Native soil as possible!!! You are one lucky guy~~

In my neck of the woods in my part of the Sierra Nevada foothills most growers have opted for breathable fabric containers, such as Smart Pots, most biggies are running 300+ gallon, and the others are plastic ag bins (4'x4') with slits for air and drainage, and raised bed planters , and most truck dirt in, and either premixed for season or they add amendments before filling containers....now the grower I worked with and learned a little from this past season has used his holes for 4 years now, it took 1 season before that to just remove all the rock, till it all, and then add what he needed and then tilled it again, and still his 1st year he burnt a few , but did great nonetheless, and he had his most epic year last year, kudos to him, they were so beautiful!!!!

catmando said:

the soil in our area is atcually quite good. Dark black soil but it is pretty thick and clay-ee

last year i used peat moss, perlite, and a locally made soil along with 50% native soil

I feel like im just overthinking all of this haha

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don't sweat it. nothing wrong with some foresight and planning. take it seriously and get serious results.
here's some math:
1 yd of soil = 27 cu ft
circular holes: Pi x radius squared x depth
so 4ft wide, 3 ft deep hole 3.14 x 4 sq ft x 3 ft = 38 cu ft of soil
Foxfarm ocean forest is 1.5 cu ft at $11/bag. you need about 25 bags to fill that hole = $275 or around $200 per yd
landscape yds have bulk soil from $40-80 per yd depending on quality, ammendments and delivery fees.
hope that helps.

I'm with DoubleJJ on this. I've used MaxSea grow and bloom for many years as a tea along with some other goodies. I alternate the tea feedings of this with a tea of seabird guano, Rainbow Grow, kelp, molasses, and a couple other things I can't think of right now (chemo brain!). I've been using Rainbow Grow and Bloom for more years than the MaxSea! I mix it into my Spring soil along with all the other amendments I use. One thing that MaxSea doesn't have in it is Magnesium. So, I supplement that with a handful of Epsom salt into my 25 gallon tea tank. It really does make a difference as to the plants sucking up the nutrients.

i get roots for $9 a bag here in Cali i find the soil to be the cheapest part of the supersoil its all the other crap that costs But God does that shit work i have been using it for 4 runs now and it looks like i Flocked my plants hah

Hey Catmando...fellow MN'er here..
I'm new to MJ growing but have been an organic gardener for 15+ years... the local soil you describe sounds more than adequte... I'd just amend it with some compost/nutrients and go with it. I've been growing great veggies and flowers in my local soil with just my compost and a few additions - nothing out of the ordinary - and get great results - and I don't expect any different from my first MJ grow doing the same (hopefully!!)
I would hesitate spending hundreds of dollars on soil when you have what you need naturally. ANd say you did spend $389 on soil and amendments etc.... I would doubt the outcome/harvest would be $389 dollars worth of difference.
Thinking ahead to next year.. think about starting a compost bin... grass clipings, leaves, kitchen scraps etc. etc... would be a good and FREE addition to your grow next year!
Just my 2 cents.
Good growing to you my Minnesota Brother!
~peace~