How Much Will an Outdoor Plant Yield Without Any Nutes?

Ok well heres the situation... I want to grow around 40 females, I'm going to be growing them in the ground, in some Fox Farm soil. I'll be watering as needed.

Whats more important strain or fertilizer? Should I have 40 plants grown from bagseed w/ nutes or 40 of a high quality strain w/o nutes?

Based on your answer to the previous question, how much could I expect to yield from that many plants?

How much money would I need to spend on nutes to support 40 plants? give me an estimate
 

SCARHOLE

Well-Known Member
Mexican Sativa ish plants do pretty well actualy.
Very little water to keep em alive....
But they dont yield shit lol

Mixed some ak an mexi together I may expeiment with this year.
 

Dubious06

Active Member
There are a lot of variables for that answer man. Location, soil, light, water, in the ground, in a container, and strain too. If you're planning to grow, let us know you're scenario and you'll get a ton of feedback. Good luck man.
 

kostas420

Member
if the climate is good (or a little hot ,cannabis is a tolerant miracle) you are expecting at least 2-3 ounce dry . i may be wrong but always i am talking from my experience (mediterranean climate , sativa plants, i didnt used chemical fertilizer but only some goats shit - sry for that i dont know whats the scientific name for it) .

Edit: You asked for something general and i gave u some hope. i told u the LEAST u could get so go for it . I had outdor harvests that exceeded 600 grams per plant.
 
Ok well heres the situation... I want to grow around 40 females, I'm going to be growing them in the ground, in some Fox Farm soil. I'll be watering as needed.

Whats more important strain or fertilizer? Should I have 40 plants grown from bagseed w/ nutes or 40 of a high quality strain w/o nutes?

Based on your answer to the previous question, how much could I expect to yield from that many plants?

How much money would I need to spend on nutes to support 40 plants? give me an estimate
 

kostas420

Member
The answer is obvious , it is best to grow a high quality strain because you will know more details and because the bagseeds may be there for 2 years until the get to your hands. Strain 30% Nutes 20% Climate 40% Different random factors 10%. This is always my opinion. As for the yield is the same as i mentioned before . At my first stages of growing outdors i had yields of 80-150 grams per plant . Time is a teacher through the eyes of empiricism. ;) btw as i am new to this forum (signed up today) i greet u all with respect and passes.
 

dangerouseknowledge

Well-Known Member
haha well this one is matter of opion nutes are big a plant wont live without any just like people get some good gentics big holes and 5 dollars in the right nutes can have you a good harvest on 10 plants ez just have to know were to get good ones...send me a pm i have alot of cheats on nutes that arnt what you usualy see
 

Dubious06

Active Member
The thing with bagseed is you won't know if it's male or female until it flowers-- the seeds have already been genetically coded to be one or the other. I know people say there are ways to "make" it female, but it's in the genes long before it sprouts. I had 22 plants from bagseed germinate last year, and only 6 were fems-- it's a 50/50 kind of thing If it's some incredible strain ferts might not play as big a role, but i think most people would tell you that ferts are important. MJ can handle heat really well-- I grew last year and it hit triple digits in the summer. You'll just have to water more often. If you've got good sunlight, they'll veg thicker, but less light, like a lot of shade, leaves them kind long and leggy-- which would hurt your total yield. Fox farm soil for 40 plants would cost a fortune. You can use a less expensive soil, and use a good ferts and achieve the same results. I'm hesitant to say what you would yield as there are still a lot of variables, but 2-3 ounces per plant is a safe average.
 

www.overgrow.com

Active Member
I wouldn't expect much other than a learning experience. Using bagseed is oftentimes a waste with so many variables. If you're in the a region where it freezes in October and your bagseed is from a mexican sativa that needs until November to produce anything, you might be up shit creek. And that's after mother nature takes it's toll and half of them are males..... etc. As far as nutes, if you're in an area with rich black soil, you could get by with no additional nutes at all and simply digging a good size hole and ensuring that the roots can get some room to support this massive plant you're hoping for. You're asking the wrong questions without suppying enough details. One highly optimistic person could tell you that if you grow 40 females you can harvest as many pounds. On the opposite end of that, someone might tell you to expect five females to survive and with unknown genetics maybe a couple oz's per plant. A realist would say that it's all up to you what you decide to do and it's likely that nobody here can give you the answer you're looking for. I like to consider myself a realist my friend. Best of luck to you.
 

grokillaz

Active Member
I've done quite a few plants in just store bought cheap soil with very little nutes in it. Some strains did decent while others did horrible yellowing early with very small yeilds. I wouldn't waste time with a bagseed honestly just because its a gamble which a lot of times does not turn out as planned. Let me suggest satori from mandala its pretty cheap and does not require much nutes at all. Kc brains mango actually did well with little nutes so did white labels double gum. Both cheap strains and some might tell you they are crap. I've grown them and they are not . Mango wasn't supe potent but it was easy to grow and a good daytime smoke. The doublegum was quite potent me and my buddy started calling it double dumb. Cuz it would knock us on our ass . Good luck
 

TokeSmoker420

Active Member
let me start by stating the obvious, you are obviously very new to growing if your asking stupid questions like this. You will NOT be able to handle 40 plants effectively. do what you want, but ur gonna waste ur money on good strains, cause chances r all your shits gonna get eaten up/ fucked up/ stolen unless you know what your doing.

start with bagseed and nutes, then chop that save profit and buy good strains. easy.

get some experience under ur belt son.
 
The first plant I ever grew was a Cotton Candy Kush plant. It was grown outdoors without any nutrients. I did so partly as a "control group", so I'd know if nutes were necessary. It produced one ounce in a 5 gallon pot (with about 4.5 gallons of soil in it). I used the Canna soil that they no longer import into the U.S.

This plant was grown on my balcony in San Diego. After 2 weeks of vegging in a 1 gallon pot, it was transplanted and placed outdoors on 4/28. My balcony received direct light from about 8am until 12pm, then indirect light until dark. It was harvested on 7/12.

After using nutrients indoors and outdoors, my conclusion about nutes is that they're important for indoors plants because of the high light intensity (no pun intended), but not as critical outdoors. I recently had this discussion with my colleague at the local grow shop and he says they will always grow better outdoors with nutes and he may be right, but the other plants I grew with nutes beside the CCK produced about the same.

The 1 ounce from the CCK plant was very good. It was a tiny bit leafy and a tiny bit airy, but the potency was good and tasted very good. It was well received as well.

Good luck.

P.S. You may also want to consider the strain when you consider nutes. For example, I gave my outdoor OG Skywalker Kush plant plenty of Terra Vega nutes and it was the leafiest monster I had ever seen. In fact, I threw virtually every good part of the plant into a large pot with 12 sticks of butter (and it turned out really well). So, nutes may simply make some strains grow lots of leaves (and some trikes) and few buds.
 

BadAndy

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having gone over some of the answers Im going to try to answer the OP's original Q. I did some out door plants in the northeast, we put out freshly rooted plants that were no more than 2" tall and gave them a couple doses of calcium nitrate in teh biginning of the summer to give tehm a good veg boost but we never gave them any kind of flower boosting nutes. this method was getting us 4-8 oz per plants with very limited effort on our part.
hope this helps answer your Q about yeild...some will do better and some wont.
 

alexonfire

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Last year I had a few plants that I planted in june and harvested in early october. No nutes and only holes 1 foot by 1 foot deep. I got around a half ounce per plant at 4 feet tall, basically just one big bud at the top. VERY disappointing, I even added worm castings. I would suggest digging at least 2x2 holes and visiting them once every month.
 

Throwed

Active Member
Compost Tea is the cheapest "nutes" you can use. Compost tea is organic and very powerful. A few bags of cheap compost, a jar of molasses, a bucket, and a aquarium pump cost under 20 bucks and can be enough to take you through out a entire grow.
 
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